Provari 3.0?!!

[Thrasher]

im not swinging either way on this, but i do find it amusing everyone talks about provari's sales. and doesnt mention that almost all the European resellers are constantly sold out and have to run preorders.
or the fact that China has to keep "revising" their products to get closer to the provari.
or maybe the people here with broken evics, vamos and zmax's who have to buy a newer PV because there is no warranty or repairability.

or maybe people just like sending their money to china for some fancy bells and whistles while they wait for next months shiny. go to somewhere like vaporjoes blog and look at how many versions and body styles they are pumping out for the zmax to hopefully keep sales up. cant say i remember any posts here about people pulling the 510 connection out of their provari. or the head popping off when it hit the floor.

I think provape will worry about the next upgrade when they actually have a problem moving stock, and with the estimated delivery time listings on the site growing every week wont be anytime soon.
people mention apple and theres no comparison if apple actually put out hardware thats was superior in actual hardware inside i would be on their koolade too. but provape doesnt warrant comparison to a company that uses last years parts to fit inside this years laptop case and then charge 5X what dell does.
they have a physically superior product and they know it, someday if china actually becomes a threat you bet they will do something about it.
while im chatting with ceceila at provape about something not importaint let me know what joyetech says next time you email them about something stupid, oh right if they even reply at all..................

 

[Commie]

im not swinging either way on this, but i do find it amusing everyone talks about provari's sales. and doesnt mention that almost all the European resellers are constantly sold out and have to run preorders.

Why does Rolls Royce keep coming out with new models of cars?

or the fact that China has to keep "revising" their products to get closer to the provari.

I don't think they're trying to get closer to provari, or they would have stabilized their output a long time ago. They're competing with each other, and we're reaping the benefits.

 

[Thrasher]

Why does Rolls Royce keep coming out with new models of cars?

becuase the yuppies need the new ones with bluetooth and usb ports and fancy touch screensand have to do everything they can to hopefully keep sales up and you can bet if they sold every car as fast as the assembly lines can pump them out they wouldnt worry about it either.......

and if you want to go into cars at the same time how many people have cars well into 10-15-20 years because they are dependable and dont want or need the fancy upgrades?

ill take a 70's duster or charger in a heart beat over a new rolls

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don't think they're trying to get closer to provari, or they would have stabilized their output a long time ago. They're competing with each other, and we're reaping the benefits.

provape is using mil grade and producing things that cost, miltary grade circuitboards arent cheap to flash out. china would do it in an instant if they could figure out how to get the quality level without the price involved.

just like abs plastic cases.
you can get abs plastics anywhere in the world, but miltary grade rated ABS is only available in north america. china is wonderful at making things it doesnt mean they can make everything as well as we can though.

 

[sawlight]

I've a hunch the EGO's are far and beyond the best sellers out there right now!
As much as you would like it to be "all that", in another 6 months or less, they will have a new version of the Evic that will be "better and even more improved" with an even better puff counter! I know that's what I need in my life!

 

[crxess]

I'm thinking the pre-orders and waiting list are more simply answered by the same fact as any other quality product made in limited quantity.
No one has ever mentioned actual production numbers but my guess is Provape produces a far smaller amount of goods than most of the manufacturing companies.
Not a bad thing for quality, but it bites for supply meeting demand.

 

[worthatry]

or maybe the people here with broken evics,

January 4th and still going strong. I guess I will have to come back in 9 months to say it's better for the price than a Provari. I have seen some of the threads though and those people blaming the Evic for breaking is like me blaming my brakes for being too far away when I rear end someone because I didn't hit the brakes fast enough. I may buy a Provari one day but even though I can afford it I just haven't seen the need to buy it except maybe to tell people my stuff is better than theirs.

 

[The Ocelot]

I want a purple LED.

 

[EddardinWinter]

I want a purple LED.

Thank you, Mace Windu....

 

[crxess]

I love these type threads.
It's like watching 2 Gerbils trying to roll a rock from opposite sides.

 

[Hello World]

I'm thinking the pre-orders and waiting list are more simply answered by the same fact as any other quality product made in limited quantity. No one has ever mentioned actual production numbers but my guess is Provape produces a far smaller amount of goods than most of the manufacturing companies. Not a bad thing for quality, but it bites for supply meeting demand.

Yup, Innovation is pushed by consumer demand, not defending any status quo. We all want better products.

Local meets with tons of vendors sell eVics ... at least 100 people attending, and you'd be hard-pressed finding more than a couple guys holding a Provari. Many also do not frequent ECF. None of that really matters, in the end we all want better products.

I have seen some of the threads though and those people blaming the Evic for breaking is like me blaming my brakes for being too far away when I rear end someone because I didn't hit the brakes fast enough.

I've had a phenomenal amount of hours on both my eVics and they've more than proven themselves. My Provari is being sent back for warranty repair, but that means squat. S**t happens no matter how bad or perfect anything is. Joyetech I believe screwed up big time by not shipping with AW IMR batteries causing overheating issues and glues to loosen up control heads.

 

[The Ocelot]

I love these type threads.
It's like watching 2 Gerbils trying to roll a rock from opposite sides.

A lot of things are fun until someone loses an eye...

 

[EddardinWinter]

I dunno. I like my eVic, but I am getting a Provari. Which will I like better? Who knows? Who cares?

The Provari has found its niche with high level construction and performance. Backed up with legendary customer service. If I am going into battle with one device, its a Provari. If they settle into this niche and make the same device for 20 years, they will still be a top seller on the market and a first rate device. Just like a vintage muscle car. American made, rugged, classic.

Evic has gone in a new direction. Is it silly to some? Yup. Are there features I don't need? You bet. But I like the fact it has improved since I bought it. Joyetech knows they cannot match the Provari at what it does best. They would be foolish to try. But they are learning fast. Look at the improvements from firmware 1.0 to 1.2. If I am sitting around with five juices and two tanks and three clearos, I want my eVic.

 

[junkman]

I dunno. I like my eVic, but I am getting a Provari. Which will I like better? Who knows? Who cares?

The Provari has found its niche with high level construction and performance. Backed up with legendary customer service. If I am going into battle with one device, its a Provari. If they settle into this niche and make the same device for 20 years, they will still be a top seller on the market and a first rate device. Just like a vintage muscle car. American made, rugged, classic.

Evic has gone in a new direction. Is it silly to some? Yup. Are there features I don't need? You bet. But I like the fact it has improved since I bought it. Joyetech knows they cannot match the Provari at what it does best. They would be foolish to try. But they are learning fast. Look at the improvements from firmware 1.0 to 1.2. If I am sitting around with five juices and two tanks and three clearos, I want my eVic.

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I have to agree with this - provari is a rugged american made mod with great customer service by all accounts. Doesn't mean it is the pinnacle of all vaping, but it certainly has its place.

If I was looking for a single PV that I had to count on for years to come it would be a provari. If I have a bunch of PVs, I don't think the provari adds much to the stable.

Just my opinion.

 

[Commie]

becuase the yuppies need the new ones with bluetooth and usb ports and fancy touch screensand have to do everything they can to hopefully keep sales up and you can bet if they sold every car as fast as the assembly lines can pump them out they wouldnt worry about it either.......

and if you want to go into cars at the same time how many people have cars well into 10-15-20 years because they are dependable and dont want or need the fancy upgrades?

ill take a 70's duster or charger in a heart beat over a new rolls

provape is using mil grade and producing things that cost, miltary grade circuitboards arent cheap to flash out. china would do it in an instant if they could figure out how to get the quality level without the price involved.

just like abs plastic cases.
you can get abs plastics anywhere in the world, but miltary grade rated ABS is only available in north america. china is wonderful at making things it doesnt mean they can make everything as well as we can though.

Hmm, I'm lazy, would anyone here happen to know approximate selling prices of a 1970 Rolls Royce vs a Charger?

About China, you're right. They're not competing against Provape for the exact reason you've mentioned. They're competing with each other for the huge portion of the market.

This reminded me of an old russian joke:
"US Dept of Defense proudly announces that 1 US made grenade destroys 1 chineese tank with 99% probability.
Chinese Dept of Defense proudly announces that 1 chineese tank costs half as much as 1 US grenade."

 

[Ravalstoney]

I had the thought to wait on my provari until they added the VW feature. I didn't for a few reasons.
The 2.5 just released, I doubt that a 3.0 would come anytime soon.
The more I learn about VW and vaping in general I find VW to be overrated. It gets you close to what you want but you still need to fine tune to get the vape you want. If this is the case what's the point. The more I vape the more I know where I wanna be with voltage without that help. Combine that with the fact that flavors, pg/vg ratio, and different tanks give you different results there's no way your gonna get exactly what you want automatically every time.
I like options, so a VW Provari would be cool for the sake of options. Though it would be an option I wouldn't use.

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[junkman]

"I find VW to be overrated"

presupposes there is some rating system in place.

"Though it would be an option I wouldn't use."

Confused as to why you wouldn't use it if it was available? Admittedly, you can get to the same place with VV but VW would be my choice all else equal. Since it would be the same device, I have to assume all else would be equal.

 

[sawlight]

Yup, I concede, I've been paid off by Provape to sell their goods, the Provari is junk, don't buy it! It's over priced, it's technology sucks it's a big heap of dung! Buy a $40 Lava tube, it's so much better! The Chinese have built so many things better and there's no reason to support American companies when China can do it so much better and for less.
Yep, I'm a shill, and so are the others that preach of how good it is. We've all been paid off by Provape to try and sell everyone on an overpriced piece of junk! Don't buy one, it's a waste of money! The China mods are miles ahead of what Provape sells.

 

[zapped]

Yup, Innovation is pushed by consumer demand, not defending any status quo. We all want better products.

Local meets with tons of vendors sell eVics ... at least 100 people attending, and you'd be hard-pressed finding more than a couple guys holding a Provari. Many also do not frequent ECF. None of that really matters, in the end we all want better products.


I've had a phenomenal amount of hours on both my eVics and they've more than proven themselves. My Provari is being sent back for warranty repair, but that means squat. S**t happens no matter how bad or perfect anything is. Joyetech I believe screwed up big time by not shipping with AW IMR batteries causing overheating issues and glues to loosen up control heads.

Youre in Canada arent you? I would hardly call you guys the norm or the average for the rest of the world.

 

[crxess]

You actually contradict yourself in your reasoning.
Real world you still need to fine tune. You say you can do that in VV however you are limited to a lesser degree of tuning. As established Both Provari and eVic adjust in .1v increments. However adjusting under VW on the eVic .1w is equal to .03v. Much finer tuning.
Not saying get an eVic. Simply saying Provari could benefit from such ability.

 

[Commie]

Youre in Canada arent you? I would hardly call you guys the norm or the average for the rest of the world.

I really hope no country in the world can be considered norm and average. Not even Canada