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jasl90

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The fact is that the ProVari can fire an atty as low as 0.7 ohms 2.9 volts. Not saying you should, just saying that you can.
It's not low ohms that gives the ProVari trouble, it's the heavy gauge wire that people are building RBAs with.
You can build a very nice, sub 1.5 ohm coil, with 32 awg wire and get a fantastic vape.
 

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I've been toying around with getting a nice mech mod but I've got so much invested in Provari's already. I love ss mesh rebuildables and want to be able to use them on my provari's. I build my coils at 1.4-1.5 and run them at around 4v. Provape sells the zap so I know that they don't frown on using rbas.. my zap came with a stock coil that metered 1.7.

Now carto's are a whole nother matter... I use 3ohm cartos at around 5v. I vape cartos at 8watts I vape mesh rba's at 10-11 watts. I use 30g wire
 

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OK, I get sarcasm, rather well in fact. Sorry, I'm not feeling well at all, as I'm sure shows in my above post, I apologize!
Please state the problems, and misunderstanding's you have and I will do my best to find someone else, hopefully in a better state than I, to answer the question/questions.
Honestly, I don't mean to come off snide, it's not you! I'm in a serious world of hurt today, so please do not take me personally tonight,I am sorry if I come off the wrong way!

No problem. I'm sorry things aren't going well for you.

I'm not mechanically inclined, so all this talk of voltage and ohms is very scary to me. I don't want to order a device that requires me to get a degree in circuitry, that's all. My question was, basically: If I buy a Provari will I have to figure out all of this electricity stuff or will it be simple enough for a layman to figure out?

On a brighter note, I just crawled out of my cave for the first time tonight. After using e-cigs for about a month I just received some clearomizers for my Volt e-cig, filled them will juice and can't believe how much better the vape is. I also got my first manual battery and see the advantages of that, too. On the Vape Evolutionary Scale I'm still a primate, but I'm slowly learning how to use human tools!
 

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No problem. I'm sorry things aren't going well for you.

I'm not mechanically inclined, so all this talk of voltage and ohms is very scary to me. I don't want to order a device that requires me to get a degree in circuitry, that's all. My question was, basically: If I buy a Provari will I have to figure out all of this electricity stuff or will it be simple enough for a layman to figure out?

On a brighter note, I just crawled out of my cave for the first time tonight. After using e-cigs for about a month I just received some clearomizers for my Volt e-cig, filled them will juice and can't believe how much better the vape is. I also got my first manual battery and see the advantages of that, too. On the Vape Evolutionary Scale I'm still a primate, but I'm slowly learning how to use human tools!

Not your problem, and I'll live, but thank you for the understanding!
Really, you don't need to learn all the volts, ohms and math to use one, there is a very simple equation to use, take the resistance of the atomizer you want to use and just add 2. I'll do the math for you even!
Most people like to be around 8 watts, but you can adjust from there, so......
1.5 ohm carto, add 2 you get 3.5v, this gives 8.166 watts at 2.33 amps
2 ohm carto add 2 you get 4v this gives 8 watts at 2 amps
3 ohm carto add 2 you get 5v this gives 8.33 watts at 1.66 amps
4 ohm carto add 2 you get 6v this gives 9 watts at 1.5 amps (not sure anyone even makes one this high, just throwing it out!)
 

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Not your problem, and I'll live, but thank you for the understanding!
Really, you don't need to learn all the volts, ohms and math to use one, there is a very simple equation to use, take the resistance of the atomizer you want to use and just add 2. I'll do the math for you even!
Most people like to be around 8 watts, but you can adjust from there, so......
1.5 ohm carto, add 2 you get 3.5v, this gives 8.166 watts at 2.33 amps
2 ohm carto add 2 you get 4v this gives 8 watts at 2 amps
3 ohm carto add 2 you get 5v this gives 8.33 watts at 1.66 amps
4 ohm carto add 2 you get 6v this gives 9 watts at 1.5 amps (not sure anyone even makes one this high, just throwing it out!)

Great post. Thanks for your help!
 

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All this stuff about ohms and watts and volts and whatnot turned me off too at first. But that calculator that was posted, along with the ohms + 2 chart posted above, really does make it pretty simple. I have a ProVari and it's been the best investment since I started vaping in 2009. I use 2 ohm dual coil cartomizers and vape at 4 volts, and it works great for me. Some folks like higher voltage, some lower, but I think 4 volts with the 2 ohm carto is the sweet spot, at least for me.
 

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Even Provape states that they don't recommend using low resistance atty's on the Provari. You can easily use 2 ohm to 4 ohm atty's on a Provari, this gives you a lot of room to make it work!
I really don't even realize how people vape 1.3 ohm and under coil at 3.7v! That is 10.5watts and drawing 2.8amps! Then they complain that they are killing batteries fast?
Yeah, I like burnt juice and enjoy going through batteries for fun?

From what I've read (as I've not messed with a sub 1Ω setup) the reason they can push so much wattage is because 28g wire doesn't get as hot as thinner wire, its not as scorching hot, so it isn't going to burn the juice like a 30-32g wire at the same wattage.

While wattage is an easy way to convey current settings, wire temp is really what were after, and its going to vary depending on gauge.

Though yeah that is going to drain the battery faster for sure.
 

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From what I've read (as I've not messed with a sub 1Ω setup) the reason they can push so much wattage is because 28g wire doesn't get as hot as thinner wire, its not as scorching hot, so it isn't going to burn the juice like a 30-32g wire at the same wattage.

While wattage is an easy way to convey current settings, wire temp is really what were after, and its going to vary depending on gauge.

Though yeah that is going to drain the battery faster for sure.

I understand what you are saying, and have read the same results from others, I was just trying to simplify things for a new member. There are lots of things to learn as you get into RBA's, but there's no need to learn all of that right now.
 

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From what I've read (as I've not messed with a sub 1Ω setup) the reason they can push so much wattage is because 28g wire doesn't get as hot as thinner wire, its not as scorching hot, so it isn't going to burn the juice like a 30-32g wire at the same wattage.

While wattage is an easy way to convey current settings, wire temp is really what were after, and its going to vary depending on gauge.

Though yeah that is going to drain the battery faster for sure.

Well said!
 

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+1 on that approach.

Make that +2. In additional to the mechanical side of it, the juice itself plays a factor. Some like it hotter, some cooler. I know I'll probably get more interested in the math at some point, but you don't have to become an expert to enjoy your Provari.
 

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Actually... A 1.4 ohm coil at 4.6 volts will deliver the maximum wattage that the ProVari is able to deliver. (15.1 watts)
So... Actually that would be your optimal resistance.

My current 1.4 ohm will fire at 4.8 on my provari. It stopped at 5 but I never tried 4.9, maybe I don't understand the process of numbers or I got one of the ones that falls into the category of + or - a little bit being on the plus side
 

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My current 1.4 ohm will fire at 4.8 on my provari. It stopped at 5 but I never tried 4.9, maybe I don't understand the process of numbers or I got one of the ones that falls into the category of + or - a little bit being on the plus side
Is it a V1 or V2 ProVari?
 

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My current 1.4 ohm will fire at 4.8 on my provari. It stopped at 5 but I never tried 4.9, maybe I don't understand the process of numbers or I got one of the ones that falls into the category of + or - a little bit being on the plus side

4.8v with a 1.4ohm carto is 16.46watts and 3.43 amps.
5v with a 1.4ohm carto is 17.86watts and 3.57 amps. Above the amp cut off.
4.9v with a 1.4ohm carto is 17.15watts and 3.5 amps, right at the cut off point.

Does that help explain why it doesn't work at 5v?
 

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4.8v with a 1.4ohm carto is 16.46watts and 3.43 amps.
5v with a 1.4ohm carto is 17.86watts and 3.57 amps. Above the amp cut off.
4.9v with a 1.4ohm carto is 17.15watts and 3.5 amps, right at the cut off point.

Does that help explain why it doesn't work at 5v?

Absolutely. Thank you. Sorry I don't get down and work out the math much. Just crank it til she says no. It's a v2.5
 
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