Provari vs. DIY

[tunafish]

I'm looking to get away from the ego batteries. I was looking to upgrade and was thinking about the provari, but was wondering what the hype is all about.

Spending $150+ on the provari...or... just build my own diy style setup using the same size battery as a provari.

What makes the provari better and worth the extra $100+ than just making your own mod using similar parts?

If I understand correctly...the battery size is what really matters. You can put lcds , vv, lights, and chrome plate it, but the important part is the battery output?? So are people just buying the provari for looks and don't know or want to build their own?



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[Leithan]

Battery size? The battery size only really matters when we are talking run time or full mechanical Mods. (Which I would avoid till you have done a lot more research) I happily vape for 6 hours on a 18350, size doesn't matter with regulated mods (go ahead and laugh now). You cant buy sufficient parts for under a hundred dollars. Unless you have a CNC machine, be able to design the mod and program the machine. Get a hold of a chip with similar performance (dna 20, Nivel) higher a CS staff to provide answers and support when your mod quits working...ect. I could keep going. Your not going to DIY anything close to a Provari. You could build a box mod with an available chip, but your looking at around $70 for one of the two chips I mentioned. Go check out the modding forum, Mamu puts up tutorials on how she builds her mods, then decide if it's worth the maybe $40 bucks you saved. Your not just buying a bigger battery, your buying a ultra reliable and bullet proof Mod with a unique and very accurate VV system, supported by some of the best costumer service in the industry with a 1 year warranty, very reasonable out of warranty service with a fast turn around and it's made in the USA. I would challenge you to DIY mod that even came close for $50. The fact that your asking this question when everything I just said is readily available in at at least 3000 other posts has me worried that you probably haven't done enough research. I wouldn't suggest you buy any new mod until you know what an APV will and wont do and what features your looking for.

 

[Blix]

Uhm, you really think you can build anything remotely comparable yourself? I think not.

 

[DoogieTony]

Well said.

 

[justinred]

Just because you can build a car with a bigger gas tank than a ferrari does not make it remotely equal or better than a ferrari.

 

[Leithan]

I just don't think the OP really knows what a VV/VW APV does..........by his line of questioning I get the impression that he thinks they are just a bigger EGO. Definitely a need for some research to be done.
It's going to be interesting to see what his response is, the Chinese can't build a Provari contender for $100 let alone $50....

 

[The Ocelot]

Three of these things belong together, one of these things just isn't the same...

 

[zapped]

You wont find a linear filter in a DIY setup.That filter is what makes a Provari one of the top PVs out there because when you set it for 5.2 volts thats exactly what you get. Most DIY mods feature Pulse Width Modulation that arrives at the voltage you set as an average of higher and lower voltage.To expand on that, some of these devices could cycle as high as 6 volts and as low as 2 volts arriving at an average of 4 volts. Its just not the same.

This flat line is why some people prefer mechanical mods but there is a tradeoff in gradually losing power as the battery drains unless the mod also features regulated voltage (which is one of the most underrated features of a Provari IMO)

I recently won a VERY nice altoids box mod that featured variable voltage and dual 18650 batteries but its sitting in a drawer collecting dust. Wanna know why? Because it doesnt vape as good as a Provari using the same juice, same voltage and same delivery device.

IMO the Provari is one of the most consistent and reliable devices on the market and the nearly 10 months Ive been entirely smoke free after smoking 2 packs a day for 25 years is a testament to that.

 

[Jaguar07]

Dear Miss Ocelot, in the interest of the public welfare, please stop teasing me with such lovely sparklies and wood toys. The people in and around the Greater Southern California area will thank you.

 

[Jaguar07]

Three of these things belong together, one of these things just isn't the same...

The Chrome one is making me drool the most.

 

[Leithan]

Three of these things belong together, one of these things just isn't the same...

I'm going to say it's the second one from the left. What did I win?

 

[Jaguar07]

I'm looking to get away from the ego batteries.

DIY around this neck of the woods usually refers to those that craft their own juices. MODDERs build devices or modify existing devices.

My incentive for moving up from my Ego-C Twist was the battery.
Once you do that, you'll find there are a wide variety of TYPES of Battery MODs.

Mechanicals - usually used for show and to blow massive clouds with, sometimes used to drip with also but not required.
They don't have any electronics. It's just a switch and a tube. Though they can range from $15 to $500.

VV - Variable voltage - There are tons of different devices that offer VV. Provari is one of the more expensive in this class and made in the USA. A lot of other choices made in the USA too. REO, etc.

VW - Variable Wattage - Becoming more and more common, mostly devices made in China. There are a few notable exceptions, made in the USA, etc. Prices of the Chinese makes range from about $30 to $140.

Hybrids
Devices that are all in one. They have their own built in tank system.
One of the most expensive and unique in this class is the Orion V3 at $350. It is variable wattage. Very shiny. Very clean looking. Very expensive.


Now saying I want to step up from my Ego, is like saying you want to buy something better than your Ford Escort. What are you looking for? What is bad about the ego, what do you hope to obtain?

Next up, you may want to watch at least 30 or so of the more common video reviews. Phil Busardo, Grim Green, and Todd of Todd Ecig Reviews are my favorites. Head over to Youtube and find yours.

 

[The Ocelot]

I'm going to say it's the second one from the left. What did I win?

You have your choice of:

a heated kidney shaped pool,
a microwave oven--don't watch the food cook,
a Dyna-Gym--I'll personally demonstrate it in the privacy of your own home,
a king-size Titanic unsinkable Molly Brown waterbed with polybendum,
a foolproof plan and an airtight alibi,
real simulated Indian jewelry,
a Gucci shoetree,
a year's supply of antibiotics,
a personally autographed picture of Randy Mantooth
and Bob Dylan's new unlisted phone number,
a beautifully restored 3rd Reich swizzle stick,
Rosemary's baby,
a dream date in kneepads with Paul Williams,
a new Matador, a new mastodon,
a Maverick, a Mustang, a Montego,
a Merc Montclair, a Mark IV, a meteor,
a Mercedes, an MG, or a Malibu,
a Mort Moriarty, a Maserati, a Mac truck,
a Mazda, a new Monza, or a moped,
a Winnebago--Hell, a herd of Winnebago's we're giving 'em away,
or how about a McCulloch chainsaw,
a Las Vegas wedding,
a Mexican divorce,
a solid gold Kama Sutra coffee pot,
or a baby's arm holding an apple!

 

[Leithan]

"solid gold Kama Sutra coffee pot" sounds both appealing and creepy at the same time.....

 

[Thrasher]

oh man put me on the preorder for a Prowari!!!!!

Now saying I want to step up from my Ego, is like saying you want to buy something better than your Ford Escort. What are you looking for? What is bad about the ego, what do you hope to obtain?

This

to the OP what exactly are you asking for and looking to gain?

for looks many mods beat the provari it is the plainjane of the APV crowd.

performance - this is where the provari can't be beat. it will not die off and get weaker as the battery loses charge, it is pretty tough too. it doesnt have all the bells and whistles but it doesnt need them either.
it is exactly what you set from first puff to last, and there are very few mods that even come close to this.

I like to tell people the provari is the APV worlds version of the hummer. its not pretty, it doesnt have all the fancy stuff, but what it was made to do it does it exceptionally well and will do it for a looong time.

 

[Jaguar07]

You have your choice of:

a heated kidney shaped pool,
a microwave oven--don't watch the food cook,
a Dyna-Gym--I'll personally demonstrate it in the privacy of your own home,
a king-size Titanic unsinkable Molly Brown waterbed with polybendum,
a foolproof plan and an airtight alibi,
real simulated Indian jewelry,
a Gucci shoetree,
a year's supply of antibiotics,
a personally autographed picture of Randy Mantooth
and Bob Dylan's new unlisted phone number,
a beautifully restored 3rd Reich swizzle stick,
Rosemary's baby,
a dream date in kneepads with Paul Williams,
a new Matador, a new mastodon,
a Maverick, a Mustang, a Montego,
a Merc Montclair, a Mark IV, a meteor,
a Mercedes, an MG, or a Malibu,
a Mort Moriarty, a Maserati, a Mac truck,
a Mazda, a new Monza, or a moped,
a Winnebago--Hell, a herd of Winnebago's we're giving 'em away,
or how about a McCulloch chainsaw,
a Las Vegas wedding,
a Mexican divorce,
a solid gold Kama Sutra coffee pot,
or a baby's arm holding an apple!

What do you want from life?

 

[Baditude]

What do you want from life?

To be 30 years old again but have the wisdom and experience that I have accumulated at this point in my life, to have good health, be irresistably handsome and rich beyond my dreams, and to be happily married to a woman as beautiful as this.

I don't ask for much.

 

[Frankenmizer]

I'm looking to get away from the ego batteries. I was looking to upgrade and was thinking about the provari, but was wondering what the hype is all about.

Spending $150+ on the provari...or... just build my own diy style setup using the same size battery as a provari.

What makes the provari better and worth the extra $100+ than just making your own mod using similar parts?

If I understand correctly...the battery size is what really matters. You can put lcds , vv, lights, and chrome plate it, but the important part is the battery output?? So are people just buying the provari for looks and don't know or want to build their own?



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The attraction to the ProVari comes from a few directions.

One - made in the U.S.
Two - built like a Abrams M1
Three - see zapped's post re: linear filter
Four - reputation for solid performance
Five - word of mouth advertising (related to Four)
Six - cachet..je ne sais quois..the undefinable something that induces people to think the ProVari is the mod

If you've got the skills to build a mod, go for it. Who knows? Maybe you'll be the one to create the ProVari Killer and thereby revolutionize the APV market. Best of luck to you.

 

[Frankenmizer]

You have your choice of:

...
a solid gold Kama Sutra coffee pot,
...

Discriminating vapers everywhere demand..



..wait a minute..a Kama Sutra coffee pot??? Which spout on that thing would actually deliver the coffee?​

 

[serenity21899]

Here we go again. I like coffee....Goes well with the waffles.