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[Deemac]

Man I may (possibly maybe) have a cat. She's really feral and maybe there are kittens somewhere, but she's been showing up. I hope a coyote doesn't get her but she seems pretty savvy. I love domesticating (to an extent) feral cats, they're the only kind I can have (yeah, I know, rabies and etc) but I've had pretty good luck with them...

Anna

When I was but a wee bairn, about 65 years ago, I broke the rules and went ino the forest behind my grandmother's farm. I was suddenly confronted with one of these, a Scottish wildcat, much larger than a domestic cat and truly wild. Since then I have had....no affinity with cats. My second wife (so far ) loved cats and we always had a rescue cat. These cats always "loved" me when I fed them, but pointedly ignored me at all other times. This tells me much about cats attitude towards humans.
On a tobacco related note, one of them had an inordinate liking for tobacco, she could easily destroy a packet of cigarettes simply to smell them but never ate the tobacco.
I never saw the musical "Cats".
I have nothing else to report on a feline subject.
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[Bronze]

When I was but a wee bairn, about 65 years ago, I broke the rules and went ino the forest behind my grandmother's farm. I was suddenly confronted with one of these, a Scottish wildcat, much larger than a domestic cat and truly wild. Since then I have had....no affinity with cats. My second wife (so far ) loved cats and we always had a rescue cat. These cats always "loved" me when I fed them, but pointedly ignored me at all other times. This tells me much about cats attitude towards humans.
On a tobacco related note, one of them had an inordinate liking for tobacco, she could easily destroy a packet of cigarettes simply to smell them but never ate the tobacco.
I never saw the musical "Cats".
I have nothing else to report on a feline subject.
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My wife has had many cats. She fed them, cleaned their sandbox, combed them, talked to them, etc. They wanted little to do with her but instead loved on me constantly. There seems to be no rhyme or reason why these cats gravitate to one or the other. But I think scratching them behind the ears or on the chin has something to do with it.

 

[stols001]

They did one of those "Does your animal really love you" tests, and cats scored LOW, like they primarily saw humans as objects or feeding tubes, or whatever. Cats don't love you one bit. Dogs fared far better.

Always loved cats and had a ton growing up .It's rare (and sometimes it's with mutations) to find a truly "interactive" cat. My first one was, but he did in a car accident (and it sucked, because he was only paralyzed and my parents declared "no" to like $1500 exploratory surgery (can't say I blame them, honestly), so that was that. My kiddo also had a 6 toed cat and he'd come when called, etc. Although I also blame my kiddo that one has an affinity for troubled animals, the worse, the better he gets them to behave. I keep telling him to become an animal trainer, but he won't.

Having become a dog person... I am under no suspicion that if I somewhat "tame" the feral cat, that she will view me as much more than a source of food (and potentially, pleasure, if ever get near enough).

I just like having a kitty cat around, when I can. Hopefully if she sticks, I will eventually get her shots, (if not neutered) but meh, no not under any illusion when it comes to cats.

Anna

 

[Bronze]

They did one of those "Does your animal really love you" tests, and cats scored LOW, like they primarily saw humans as objects or feeding tubes, or whatever. Cats don't love you one bit. Dogs fared far better.

Always loved cats and had a ton growing up .It's rare (and sometimes it's with mutations) to find a truly "interactive" cat. My first one was, but he did in a car accident (and it sucked, because he was only paralyzed and my parents declared "no" to like $1500 exploratory surgery (can't say I blame them, honestly), so that was that. My kiddo also had a 6 toed cat and he'd come when called, etc. Although I also blame my kiddo that one has an affinity for troubled animals, the worse, the better he gets them to behave. I keep telling him to become an animal trainer, but he won't.

Having become a dog person... I am under no suspicion that if I somewhat "tame" the feral cat, that she will view me as much more than a source of food (and potentially, pleasure, if ever get near enough).

I just like having a kitty cat around, when I can. Hopefully if she sticks, I will eventually get her shots, (if not neutered) but meh, no not under any illusion when it comes to cats.

Anna

I wish our cats knew they didn't like humans. I got tired of them sleeping on me all the time.

 

[stols001]

I don't think it's a "like" or "dislike" thing exactly, the study I read seemed to indicate it's all about what the CAT wants. If you are a source of heat that it desires, it will most certainly curl up on you, etc. Although, most animals can be "humanized" in a sense by training and behavioral principles.

I think the conclusion was, dogs are more loving (or, one might say, "codependent" in my book) in the sense that once they devlop a relationship with you, it will take account your desires and often comply out of a desire to "please you."

With that said, I will say one of the reasons I "like" cats is that they don't care so much about what "you" want. Far easier to take care of. I mean, if you leave, depending on the cat, you can leave a food and water dispenser out, they'll be fine. By contrast, we once left my little brother to "dogsit" our dog (he was a cat person at the time, didn't think to give him good enough "directions" and they didn't interact with her enough and she ate a huge stack of books (irreplaceable) VCR tapes, and other stuff.

While I'm wanting a puppy once I have the time, I have no illusions about the fact that it will be a lot of consistency, effort, etc. (that does pay off, but still).

It was also ONE study. I think everyone should believe what they want, and etc.

Anna

 

[Bronze]

I think dogs and cats are equally loving they just show it differently. Dogs do it in a way that humans better relate too. Cats are far more subtle. A dog jumping up on a human licking our face with its tail swinging side to side like a hurricane flag is the equivalent to a cat head butting you.

 

[GeekyGeezer]

A while back I ran across a book about cats by Desmond Morris, the anthroplogist who also wrote The Naked Ape. It was his take on what makes cats do cat things. Having had a number of cats through the years, it made the most sense of anything I'd ever seen.

The thing I remember most strongly is his opinion that cats consider us as a very different smelling, not very bright, cat. According to him, it explains what a cat is "thinking" when they bring a mouse, etc. to you. In the wild, cats share their food and yours is simply acting because of the wiring they've had for thousands of years. Those who are habitual kneaders are simply continuing the process they did as kittens - but instead of accessing their mother's food source they're repeating the ritual with their new food source - their owner.

But one thing he didn't address was the table manners of a couple of cats in my life. They would never eat directly from their bowl. They'd pick a few bits of food from the bowl, put it on the mat underneath, and happily munch away.

 

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[AstroTurf]

I like cats!!!

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[Deemac]

So many cats......and so few recipes

 

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[coldgin96]

So many cats......and so few recipes

I wouldn't eat a cat unless I was starving.

 

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[stols001]

Oh man, I've never seen any recipes for cat, even in France (and they eat snails!!!) Is that a real cat recipe and OMG, I can't even IMAGINE eating one a) I like them b) I don't think that "slaughtering" one would be at all easy (although I'm sure all the farmers are gonna tell me how to drown kittens and whatnot) plus it sort of seems like....

Well, I'm sure it tastes like baconized chicken, with the above recipe. LOL. Fortunately, I don't like bacon, and have often been "scolded" for cooking too much chicken.

So perhaps the above recipe might work then. (Imagining cat farms and what that might be like. Also "free range" vs farm bred cat has GOT to make a difference, and I'd really prefer the farm bread version, because if free range, you're just eating cat plus mouse plus rat plus etc.

Okay, I'm thoroughly grossed out now.. .

Anna

 

[Kn0ttYFive]

Oh man, I've never seen any recipes for cat, even in France (and they eat snails!!!) Is that a real cat recipe and OMG, I can't even IMAGINE eating one a) I like them b) I don't think that "slaughtering" one would be at all easy (although I'm sure all the farmers are gonna tell me how to drown kittens and whatnot) plus it sort of seems like....

Well, I'm sure it tastes like baconized chicken, with the above recipe. LOL. Fortunately, I don't like bacon, and have often been "scolded" for cooking too much chicken.

So perhaps the above recipe might work then. (Imagining cat farms and what that might be like. Also "free range" vs farm bred cat has GOT to make a difference, and I'd really prefer the farm bread version, because if free range, you're just eating cat plus mouse plus rat plus etc.

Okay, I'm thoroughly grossed out now.. .

Anna

 

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