PTB Plug Full 510 Cart

[SudokuGal]

In another thread, rhoneil asked if I had pics of using his method with the SmokeStik small cart cup. So here they are. As I was taking the pics, I realized that the actual size of the filler isn't that much different -- it's just a little more difficult to insert the filler in the SS cup.

In pic 1, the SS cup is at the bottom with the SS cartridge above it and a 510 cartridge above that, for size comparison purposes.

In pic 2, the rolled filler for the SS is at the bottom; the 510, on top. (Sorry about the bluriness.)

In pic 3, the unrolled and unfolded filler for the SS is at the bottom; the 510, on top.

Rho, I'll post a link to here in the other thread.

 

[rhoneil]

thats pretty tiny, im glad its working for you. It at least looks bigger than the blu cig cups.

thanks for posting you pictures!!!
for me, double folds work well for my 510s
NICE flowers!!!

rho

 

[SquirrilahFish]

one problem ive had with the rdkjdfhoadfih PTB mod (whatever) is its hard to get juice in with the filler in side, i rolled mine tight to create some air channels on the side and it seem to fill better, next time I will have to add some juice before the filler, but no leaks yet, that was the only downside to the shredded IMO

 

[Nestran]

Thank you for this! I was using the shred mod and putting a small poly plug on top to stop the flooding. Not anymore!


Edit: I have a name suggestion: "The ADS Mod (All Day Sucker)"
Nestran

 

[SquirrilahFish]

k someone help me out, tried topping of after it tated dry and could only get four drops in, i pulled out the filler and it was pretty dry, but I could only get ab 2 more drops in, this is my first attempt at this mod, and is not even close to the best, but is there something that might help? I hate having to top off less then 10 drops

 

[rhoneil]

I re-filled one of my carts that had this mod last night. what i did was take the filling out, dropped about 15 drops and slowly put the filler back in. worked perfectly. Because the juice stays on top you can top a couple of drops and it will stay on top. but if you want to fill the cart you either have to remove the filler and add juice, which is easy by the way since the PTB material pretty much keeps its form, or pull the filler out half way and add juice. either way, if there is only liquid on the top folds you will be able to fit at least 13 drops.

hope this helps

 

[rhoneil]

Hope this video answers some questions. Let me know if you have any others.

YouTube - Refilling Folded Rolled Frayed PTB Mod

rho

 

[rhoneil]

Thank you for this! I was using the shred mod and putting a small poly plug on top to stop the flooding. Not anymore!


Edit: I have a name suggestion: "The ADS Mod (All Day Sucker)"
Nestran

Thanks and I like the suggestion. That would definitely describe it for me. There are times when I get too anxious about emptying the cart and vape more than normal but for the most part if not all day it lasts for quite some time. I still have a bunch of pre-filled carts and it really does not take long for the top to get dry and i would have to pull the filling out and turn it around. not fun with the stock material. plus, I end up inadvertantly squeezing out some juice onto my fingers. I have since taken a couple of cartons and used a syringe to get out as much juice as i can from the prefilled and saving it in a small dropper. im getting pretty good at saving every little drop.

thanks again for the post.

rho

 

[JustMeAgain]

As far as the dry taste, I found that if I get that I would take a short hard drag followed by a long smoother drag and the taste and fullness comes back. The PTB holds the juice very well. I think doing this kinda pulls it a little onto the bridge.rho

I agree with this, rho....I think you may have mentioned it in one of the videos or maybe on another thread, but I've noticed that just about the time I'm thinking 'time to top off' because it's getting that dry thing going on, if I take a hard pull, then go back to business as usual, I'm in good shape again for quite some time.

I'm just learning all kinds of things from you!

Keep the good stuff coming...

 

[rhoneil]

k someone help me out, tried topping of after it tated dry and could only get four drops in, i pulled out the filler and it was pretty dry, but I could only get ab 2 more drops in, this is my first attempt at this mod, and is not even close to the best, but is there something that might help? I hate having to top off less then 10 drops

At first I didnt understand why you wouldnt be able to get more than 2 drops when attempting to top this off. Then it came to me. In a previous post you said that you rolled it pretty tight to get more air on the sides. I think this is hurting the desired effect. So I tested it out with a slight difference. You also said in a previous post that it was hard to get juice in so what I did was try to do the opposite extreme.

I took a stirring straw, we all have one or at least a cut up one close by now, and rolled a brand new FRF mod around it and put it in the cart without the straw. After adding about 5 drops into the center I started getting bubbles so I waited about 4-5 seconds then added another 5. I did this till I got 30 drops in (not dripping out but pooling on the top)... DONT DO THIS. It was too much, but I had to see how much it would take. I had to dab some off with a napkin but I'll try it again with 25. 30 DROPS!?!?! how is that possible? I dont know, in the flat tips no less. I'll try to make another video to demonstrate. Anyway, the point is I think the fact that it is a loose roll make it easier for the juice to go in. Making some space in the middle of the roll provides the air channel you are looking for but this way it goes all the way down to the bottom as opposes to half way down the sides thus allowing you to fill the cart easier.
As a side note I think the tight roll may also hurt the PTB material's flexibility to:
1- give the springy action to keep contact with the atomizer bridge and
2- hug the bridge like we want.
To make a long story short (too late) for me it works best when you "Keep Loose"
Maybe I shouldnt take that part out of the name. Oh well...
Double Folded, Loosely Rolled, Frayed Lipton PTB Mod (I 'pulled' the 'plug' from the name)

as always... hope this helps... someone... anyone....

rho

PLEASE POST any success and failures with this mod. I appreciate any feedback.

 

[DC2]

It looked like you are rolling the tea bag with the double folds inside.
I was wondering if you had tried rolling it with the double folds on the outside?

Then the shredded ends would wick up directly towards the middle rather than to the outside edges.

 

[rhoneil]

I had thought about that but have never tried it. I like it. I can see it wicking up to the middle. I will have to check that out. thanks.

 

[Nestran]

k someone help me out, tried topping of after it tated dry and could only get four drops in, i pulled out the filler and it was pretty dry, but I could only get ab 2 more drops in, this is my first attempt at this mod, and is not even close to the best, but is there something that might help? I hate having to top off less then 10 drops

I tend to get 6 drops in for a top off but it lasts longer than the 6 drops I put in. It seems that the drops added aid the capillary action of the lazy juice that is still in the cart. The 6th drop tends to bead but I leave it for 30 seconds or so and it gets sucked in.

I rolled the PTB to just fit in the cart, then the inner part gets pressed in by the atty and the outers stay up creating a nice cradle. Also did the fraying at the bottom, nice addition, keeps the PTB tight to the atty.

More flavor and more vapor. I also noticed that I get satisfactory vapor and flavor right to the end of the battery.


Nestran

 

[rhoneil]

I did this till I got 30 drops in (not dripping out but pooling on the top)... DONT DO THIS. It was too much, but I had to see how much it would take. I had to dab some off with a napkin but I'll try it again with 25. 30 DROPS!?!?! how is that possible? I dont know, in the flat tips no less. I'll try to make another video to demonstrate.

I dont know what i was vaping? I just did a video trying to duplicate this and it just did not happen. I did get a firm 20 drops in. Again I would not recommend this. 18 should be fine. An empty cart gets 20. 30??!!! was I counting by twos?

YouTube - Compare empty 510 cart to modded cart capacity

thanks guys
rho

 

[rhoneil]

I tend to get 6 drops in for a top off but it lasts longer than the 6 drops I put in. It seems that the drops added aid the capillary action of the lazy juice that is still in the cart. The 6th drop tends to bead but I leave it for 30 seconds or so and it gets sucked in.

I rolled the PTB to just fit in the cart, then the inner part gets pressed in by the atty and the outers stay up creating a nice cradle. Also did the fraying at the bottom, nice addition, keeps the PTB tight to the atty.

More flavor and more vapor. I also noticed that I get satisfactory vapor and flavor right to the end of the battery.


Nestran

Im glad its working out for you. Again, I think its better with a loose roll or at least a roll with a hole in the middle. I like it, its the only mod that I have actually used for this long of a time. Granted its only a few days, but its better than some that i only tried for a few hours. Then again, that just might be a product of how long the cart lasts for me now with this mod.

Thanks for posting.

Good or bad, let me know.
rho

and I'm open for name suggestions, if it really deserves one.

 

[Nestran]

Im glad its working out for you. Again, I think its better with a loose roll or at least a roll with a hole in the middle. I like it, its the only mod that I have actually used for this long of a time. Granted its only a few days, but its better than some that i only tried for a few hours. Then again, that just might be a product of how long the cart lasts for me now with this mod.

Thanks for posting.

Good or bad, let me know.
rho

and I'm open for name suggestions, if it really deserves one.

Exactly, a loose roll does it. And I still stand by ADS for a name.

Nestran

 

[Crankyfuzz]

WOW is all I can say this works great....taste,vapor everything and it is long lasting

 

[rhoneil]

Thanks for the feedback, Crankyfuzz. Glad its working for you. Let me know if there are any issues in the future.

It makes it easier knowing other people are trying it so I dont have to force myself to vape almost too much to see what happens when the cart starts running out. It takes too long to get to that point unless I vape almost constantly. Especially when I keep filling carts doing videos. Now I have about 5 carts with this mod full of juice. should last me, at least, till the weekend.

good or bad let me know
rho

 

[callousparade]

Note, I tried rolling it today (someone mentioned this up there) with the folds on the outside. Long story short, it sucked. I was getting tiny puffs and it tasted burned, which meant to me the atty was dry obviously. Opened it up, and sure enough all the liquid was right where it should be, in the folds at the top which were pointing AWAY from the bridge. don't roll it backwards.
Also tried doing the accordion style folds instead of rolls. Didn't work as well, vapor and taste were fine but it slowly leaked.

ALSO, to whoever was having trouble topping off... yeah i'd guess its being rolled too tight. you should have a little hole right in the middle and what i've been doing is sticking the nozzle of my dropper bottle right up against that hole and giving it a pretty good squeeze, not dripping, when i want to top off quick. it squirts the liquid into the bottom, makes little tiny bubbles pop up around the edge, but it's so good at wicking your good to go as soon as you get it back into the atty!

great mod, i challenge anyone to come up with something that will take me away from it. I'm going to just go ahead and start calling it "rho mod" cause i think that rolls off the tongue well and sounds pretty sweet too.

now someone come up with sigma mod. nerd joke.

 

[Nestran]

I second "Rho mod".

Nestran