Public vaping?

[MickeyRat]

Here are my thoughts:

If you're going to vape outside of smoking areas, do it openly. Also, do not be mistaken for a smoker. Do not use a 510 or an 808, if you do this. That will either cause problems for you or for the establishment when others complain. Outlandish looking is a lot better than cigarette looking in this case.

If you can't do it minding your own business like you're in your own living room, don't do it. If you act like you're looking for someone to object, they probably will.

If you get questions, answer them politely. Despite what you might think, most non-smokers think these things are cool and want to know more about them. If the setting allows for it, you are likely to get a few questions. If that's a problem for you, don't do it. OTOH it's a pretty good ice breaker at bars.

I usually ask permission in a restaurant because it's easy. That can have bonuses as well. I educated the manager of a local Olive Garden and got a free desert and later a free meal out of it. I've never been turned down. If I ever am, I'll wish them a good day, leave and not come back.

Never ever get on your high horse and insist that you have a right to vape where you like. I don't care if the establishment gave you permission. I've never had it happen but, if someone objects, explain what you're doing and stop or leave.

 

[Stosh]

Here are my thoughts:

If you're going to vape outside of smoking areas, do it openly. Also, do not be mistaken for a smoker. Do not use a 510 or an 808, if you do this. That will either cause problems for you or for the establishment when others complain. Outlandish looking is a lot better than cigarette looking in this case.....

+10 for this, flaunt the fact you're vaping and NOT smoking!!

 

[Clovery]

In my state, ecigs are banned everywhere that analogs are. I still feel weird vaping in public, although the situation comes up rarely. A couple weeks ago I was waiting outside a restaurant for a table and decided to vape, and I felt kinda silly. I usually bring along my highest nic level (12) for when I'm out so just a puff or two will do it for me. If I were in that situation when I was a smoker, I would normally walk around the side of the building to not bother anyone, even though there were those .... stands right next to the benches. When I'm in my car I feel strange, like people are going to think I'm doing something illegal and call the police on me, especially if they notice there's a car seat in my backseat. Last night I was waiting in the car with the sleeping kid while my husband ran into the grocery store to grab a few things. I had the AC on, and the window half down and was vaping away. At least one person gave me a strange look when they walked by.

I might be crucified for saying this, but I don't really think vapers are deserving of any more rights than smokers. Some juices smell odd/bad or just generally have a scent when they are vaped. I would hate to just get my meal at a restaurant and have the guy at the table next to me start emitting plumes of pecan banana chocolate sundae. Smoking has been banned from inside of restaurants for years (in most places at least) so I think most people are accustomed to waiting until they leave to get their nic. To restart that habit, just because you are vaping now is a step in the wrong direction, in terms of general addiction.

That being said, I probably would stealth vape in the movie theater. I always make it a point to see movies weeks after they have been out, during off times so it's not crowded. Then again I will also sneak in a flask of rum to dump in my coke But I haven't been to the movies for years, so who knows.

I have no problem vaping in front of friends. If I'm in someone else's house I explain what I'm doing, and usually go outside with the smokers. Some people tell me I don't have to go out, but I like taking a step outside here and there anyway.

 

[wv2win]

Lets see, don't vape in a restrurant and only where smokers smoke but sneaky vape in a movie theater. I really don't understand this position.

I still prefer to "vape openly but respectfully". So when I vape in a restruant, I won't be blowing big plumbs of vaper in other people's faces, I will tell the server what my PV is and if it happens to be a restrurant where we are crammed in shoulder to shoulder, I will wait or move to another section. And if the managment tells me I can't vape in their establishment, I will respect their private property rights but not go back to that establishment.

 

[Stosh]

In my state, ecigs are banned everywhere that analogs are. I still feel weird vaping in public, although the situation comes up rarely. A couple weeks ago I was waiting outside a restaurant for a table and decided to vape, and I felt kinda silly........

Welcome to a fellow New Jerseyian!! All the more reason to vape something that looks nothing like a cigarette, can't be mistaken for one. At worst someone may ask you what it is, easy to explain...
Never feel silly about saving your health...

 

[Clovery]

Welcome to a fellow New Jerseyian!! All the more reason to vape something that looks nothing like a cigarette, can't be mistaken for one. At worst someone may ask you what it is, easy to explain...
Never feel silly about saving your health...

thanks for the welcome

I'm pretty happy with my ego/kgo setups with clearos and vivi novas. Doesn't look anymore like a cigarette than a hotdog does, except for the "smoke" coming out of it

FWIW I felt silly/like an idiot as a smoker, as well. So I definitely wouldn't lite up instead of vaping in order to save my pride.

 

[Jossh]

I've only been vaping for 2 1/2 months. I vape almost everywhere- grocery store, wally world, at work on the plant floor, my parents' house (non-smokers), restaraunts, post office, the list goes on. Nobody has given me a hard time or even any dirty looks about it. I've had people ask about it and I'm always happy to share info, give them a couple of vendor business cards, and even let them try a drag if they'd like.
There are a few places I wouldn't vape- the waiting room of my son's pediatrician's office, church (if I went), during a wedding or funeral ceremony, in the middle of a meeting at work, in a classroom (if I were a student).
I'm 33 years old and don't fully remember where all you could smoke in, say, 1985 but I vape in most of the places that I imagine you could smoke in back then.

 

[Zooker]

I vape in the same areas I used to smoke, the only difference is now I vape inside my house to, whereas I never smoked inside the house. I've never had a nic fit while shopping for groceries, or in the mall or Walmart, so I don't vape there, it never even occurs to me.

Oops, just remembered, that wasn't completely truthful, I do vape in the restroom at work now, just cuz I can get away with having a nic fix in there, never could do that before--almost 17 years of working for a company with a strict anti tobacco policy, I'm stickin' it to 'em even if they don't know it, lol

 

[JENerationX]

I vape openly anywhere I want, respectfully. I'm not vaping anywhere I'm shoulder to shoulder with someone and blowing it in their faces. I'll somewhat stealth vape (openly using my PV but minimizing the vapor) at a concert that's packed, a restaurant that's packed etc. or I'll just find a little space. I'll explain to anyone around me if they ask or give me "the look". Some people don't recognize that it isn't smoke, but when they clearly see that this thing is the size of a sharpie and isn't ignited, and smells like peaches or root beer, or whatever I'm vaping, the reactions I've gotten have only been positive. I didn't vape on a field trip in the planetarium where a cloud would have obscured views. Funerals, weddings (during the service), and church services aren't a good place to vape, but I have vaped after a meal at a bridal shower, a wedding reception hall, and inside (not in the receiving line though) at a wake. I actually had a lot of questions at the wake. The deceased died of lung cancer and COPD. His family thought it was wonderful that there is another option. I passed out all the cards I had on me, and wrote down the forum url for about 10 more people. I think it's important to be open, but respectful about it.

 

[Wolf308]

I did a mindless vape tonight. I went to a town council meeting where they were having a public hearing about a law they want to pass that cancels out a state law. I waited 2 hours for the hearing and was sitting through a lot of crap (really? an award ceremony for trees?!) and 2 hours in I just grabbed my PV and took a few pulls. Didn't think a thing of it! Until my mom nudged me in the ribs and reminded me were sitting in the middle of town hall. But no one said anything.

 

[Petrodus]

I did a mindless vape tonight. I went to a town council meeting where they were having a public hearing about a law they want to pass that cancels out a state law. I waited 2 hours for the hearing and was sitting through a lot of crap (really? an award ceremony for trees?!) and 2 hours in I just grabbed my PV and took a few pulls. Didn't think a thing of it! Until my mom nudged me in the ribs and reminded me were sitting in the middle of town hall. But no one said anything.

If ya don't act like your doing anything wrong ...
You seldom draw any attention.

I vape everywhere and act no different than if I was chewing gum.

Of course, I'm not constantly aware of strangers around me wondering
if they are looking at me (as a shoplifter would) ... Few really even care
that we are vaping even if they notice us.

If your mom wasn't there ... No one would have said anything to you.

 

[JENerationX]

When I went back to work, I showed my boss, and one of the owners. I said "hey check this out.. I stopped smoking, isn't it great?". They think it's great that I'm not smoking. I set up a little desk fan so I don't look like Charlie Brown with a huge vape cloud over me and proceeded to vape my face off whenever I want. Other than people asking me if it works, and where can they get more information... I haven't had anyone say a thing. Actually the first week there was a crazy there who didn't like the smell of syrup all morning (it's a maple that's pretty strong)... I don't think she even realized it was me but I switched to cappuccino and/or peach tea and she loves the smell of that along with blueberry, root beer, and vanilla.

So, yes.... if you go about your business like there's nothing special about it, people will go on about theirs.

 

[potholerepairman]

Some people will tell you they will never go to any restaurant that will not allow them to vape.In my country this would make the choices very limited and most likely make you either dine alone or at home.. Snake handling is legal in a lot of states but do not see too many people brings the snakes inside a private business with company and not making at least their guest think "why am I here with so and so?"The opinion I take is choose your places wisely, vaping is a great thing in everyway but to push new things just to feel special is kinda weak.I too try to get the message out but not with overt hostility toward the accepted practices of a Chuck E. Cheese or other establishments that really do not want a person vaping.Could just see whipping out the non-pv looking device at a lot ot places that a pv has no place being and getting that "does he not have a clue look".Certain clubs bars and food places are all ok in my book, but to push it to every restaurant seems very limiting to me.

 

[MickeyRat]

Some people will tell you they will never go to any restaurant that will not allow them to vape.In my country this would make the choices very limited and most likely make you either dine alone or at home.. Snake handling is legal in a lot of states but do not see too many people brings the snakes inside a private business with company and not making at least their guest think "why am I here with so and so?"The opinion I take is choose your places wisely, vaping is a great thing in everyway but to push new things just to feel special is kinda weak.I too try to get the message out but not with overt hostility toward the accepted practices of a Chuck E. Cheese or other establishments that really do not want a person vaping.Could just see whipping out the non-pv looking device at a lot ot places that a pv has no place being and getting that "does he not have a clue look".Certain clubs bars and food places are all ok in my book, but to push it to every restaurant seems very limiting to me.

Have you actually tried it??? I've vaped in many restaurants in Florida. I usually asked and I didn't get turned down. What's wrong with taking your business to another establishment because you don't like an establishment's policies.

I never vape in public to feel special. That's a really strange way to look at it actually. Would you say that someone chewed gum in public to feel special? It really is the same thing.

 

[potholerepairman]

Have you actually tried it??? I've vaped in many restaurants in Florida. I usually asked and I didn't get turned down. What's wrong with taking your business to another establishment because you don't like an establishment's policies.

I never vape in public to feel special. That's a really strange way to look at it actually. Would you say that someone chewed gum in public to feel special? It really is the same thing.

I tried it many times with great results, but would never ban a place of eating because they would not let me vape in there business.The places I stated are private not public and have to appease a lot of people , not just one.If you find that opinion wrong so be it.Is chewing gum the equal of sitting in a restaurant blowing vapor while kids and families are around the same?

ps -if you still chew gum thats on you

 

[MickeyRat]

I tried it many times with great results, but would never ban a place of eating because they would not let me vape in there business.The places I stated are private not public and have to appease a lot of people , not just one.If you find that opinion wrong so be it.Is chewing gum the equal of sitting in a restaurant blowing vapor while kids and families are around the same?

Yes it is. What would lead you to believe it's any different?

 

[potholerepairman]

Yes it is. What would lead you to believe it's any different?

logic of course

 

[MickeyRat]

logic of course

Certainly you can specify differences but, by what logic is one offensive and the other inoffensive? I can easily say why I think they are the same:

• Both are enjoyed by the user and that enjoyment isn't shared.
• In close enough proximity both can be smelled.
• You can see them both from a fair distance.

I can name a few things are are offensive about chewing gum that don't apply to vaping. I've never heard of anyone snapping their PV. I don't see a PV getting stuck on your shoe or on the underside of tables.

So, logically why would you think that using a PV in public is more offensive than chewing gum?

 

[potholerepairman]

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So, logically why would you think that using a PV in public is more offensive than chewing gum?

my posts had to do with vaping in a private business .If you can not see the difference between chewing gum and vaping in a "Chuck E. Cheese" no words from me will make it clear.

 

[MickeyRat]

Deleted No point.