Well Im updating again. I played with these flavorings over the weekend. I tried a dilution in 10ml with one drop and got zip zilch nada. So it wasnt overflavoring that was the problem.
I adjusted the 10ml batches I made before several times, drop for drop along the way and low and behold!
These require 12%-15% flavoring. This is NOT as concentrated as people say, unless I got really weak batches. I both at 15% now,
vaping the peach as I type and they are indeed pretty darn good. Are they $22.00 for 15ml kinda good? Eh... nah. But I dont regret buying it. The cherry is the best Ive had thus far. Now that it is in higher amounts Ive lost that tpa cherry flavor I was getting from it before.
Id say they are no more concentrated as most TPA flavorings and if you used them as you do tpa, youd do fine.
Warning, retracting a previous statement...The cherry will discolor and possibly crack poly plastic. I did test this again with it at 15% and the plastic did react with the juice. Im no chemist, but if its indeed all natural I dont think it should do that. Period. So my thinking after that is the cherry is NOT 100% organic. The peach did not react to the plastic.
I still am not convinced these arent PG based, and as the site says some do contain alcohol. I have no idea what the carrier base is. So use with caution if you are pg sensitive like I am. I can handle up to about 30% pg. Beyond that its bad for me. I suppose I could do one od these at like 40% flavor and find out but Ill let someone else take that bullet...lol.
So there ya go, 12-15% folks. Up to you if you wanna plunk down the change. These being ultra concentrated is all hype.