PV for a stroke victim?

[roxics]

So last Christmas I bought my mom an eGo since she has been a lifetime smoker and warmd up to the idea of PV's due to my success and talking about them. She took a little while to get started, but at the end of January this year she started using it in combination with smoking.

I believe it would have worked for her, except sadly at the beginning of February she had a stroke. A pretty bad one that has changed who she is. She is capable of walking and doing things and has been for many months now. But she still doesn't have use of her left arm and we believe she now has some dementia. She forgets certain things easily like what day of the week it is. Otherwise she's doing ok and is capable of doing things for herself around the house.

After her stoke she didn't smoke for about 5 months. But at the end of July she started sneaking cigarettes and buying packs. None of us four kids like it at all, but my brother and I generally feel some sympathy for her. She's stuck at home most days without a lot to do and frustrated by her condition. We can't force her to not do it.

She has generally been smoking outside, but since it's getting a little colder she's starting to move it indoors, which worries me and her a little. She's aware of her limitations. I don't want her to burn her house down. She's recently asked me about starting up on her e-cig again to help her quit smoking.

I started thinking about this and I'm not sure what the best solution for her is. If I help get her started on vaping, what's the easiest e-cig for her to vape. There is no way she can drip, her depth perception is not very good and one handed dripping is not possible. She's in her late sixties and has one eye that isn't so great, so even if she didn't have a stroke she'd have a hard time with it.
Cartomizers seem to be the only thing I can think of. But she would never be able to fill them herself, too complicated. Which means I would have to fill a bunch up for her and just refill them once a week or something. But even then I'm not sure how easier it would be for her to recharge the battery, having to screw it in with one hand. She can't take the twist tie off the bread.

I'm not even sure vaping is a good idea for her. But I can't see her quiting smoking otherwise. She's too stubborn. So if I had to go with a vaping solution for her, what would be the best route to take, the easiest system to use?

 

[washvap]

The easiest system I can think of would be the EGO-T TYPE B. All she has to do is pop the top off and just fill it up. It isn't a full proof system as you may know but there isn't another thing out there that wouldn't include cartos and atties.

I hope that the situation with your mom gets better and your blessed that you still have her here after a stroke.

 

[roxics]

Yes I am, thank you. The tank system is not a bad idea. But even then unscrewing a bottle of e-juice would be complicated for her. The same with unscrewing the batteries for recharging.

It may sound crazy but a mod might be her best solution. Like Reo or something with a bottom feeder where she doesn't have to worry about juice for a few days and I can just swap out the bottle every so many days. Where the battery can be replaced by pulling it out and sticking it into a charger rather than screwing things in and out. I'll have to look into them, I don't know a ton about them.

 

[billo]

Sorry to hear about your mother. My mother had a stroke at 75 and, like you say, she could also walk and talk but she was never the same. She did live to be almost 90 with no further problems, though, although she had dimentia for the last 5 years or so. But she gradually got better for several years after the stroke, so you might be pleasantly surprised.

You could fill a bunch of tanks for her ahead of time. She'd just have to pop one off and another on.

2 ml. could last a long time. Over a day for me. And no worry about tanks drying up before they're empty, like carts or cartomizers can do. I'd highly recommend the eGo B tank for consistency and the least hassle. The last puff on the tank is pretty much like the first puff. And no tweaking required. (I'd also recommend the LR type B tank atomizer from Cignot for more vapor than a standard resistance .)

Just use about 80% PG, 20% VG. They can leak with 100% PG.

Or the final solution might just be 3 or 4 fully-charged and filled units . Or how ever many are needed. She could just pick the next one up when one gives out-- battery or juice. Not really that expensive compared to cigarettes or a REO even if you had to buy 10 sets. Putting different juice in some sets would also add interest.

(I've edited this post several times since I keep thinking of things !)

 

[washvap]

Yes I am, thank you. The tank system is not a bad idea. But even then unscrewing a bottle of e-juice would be complicated for her. The same with unscrewing the batteries for recharging.

It may sound crazy but a mod might be her best solution. Like Reo or something with a bottom feeder where she doesn't have to worry about juice for a few days and I can just swap out the bottle every so many days. Where the battery can be replaced by pulling it out and sticking it into a charger rather than screwing things in and out. I'll have to look into them, I don't know a ton about them.

No problem. I didn't mention the REO since you have to lightly squeeze the bottle every 5 hits or so to keep going. She would either have to pay attention to how much juice comes out of the "vent holes". Which would also require her to take a light primer puff to wet the coil on the atty. Or she would have to squeeze the bottle lightly and take a primer puff at the same time. Then listen to hear a gurgle, stop, and then vape. Overall, there is a tiny bit of a learning curve as to how to use it properly.

Although, if you put a cartomizer on there than it would make a world of difference since it would only require her to squonk every 15 - 20 puffs. Also, she would not have to worry about overfilling it and the juice won't get into the catch cup. Which would make it easier for her to use.

If you got her a Grand then the bottle would last a while. Which would be highly dependent on how much she vaped. Overall, it wouldn't be a bad idea to get your a bottom feeder. If you want to get more information than you should check out the REO sub-forum:

Reos Mods

 

[tj99959]

The Grand still would not solve the changing batteries issue.

I would suggest a pass through with cartos. The simpler it is the better.

 

[WillieB69]

I would suggest a pass through with cartos. The simpler it is the better.

This would be a great idea. Get her a passthrough with a wall plug adapter so she can take it with her room to room. Of course, that won't work as well when she's out somewhere but I'm guessing she's not going out unsupervised much? You could have a small 510 battery at the ready whenever she goes out with someone.

Also, you may want to look into trying some prefilled cartos for her. I've had a couple from Liquid Xpress that were really good. (Of course, that is subjective to taste.) Even if she's going through a couple boxes of cartos a week, it's still far cheaper than buying a carton of smokes once or twice a week.

 

[madjack]

...my first thought was a pass thru but that would tie down to a plug somewhere...a bottom feeding mod might work with a honking big batt but still wouldn't last a week...several eGoTs with type B tanks might be the answer depending how much she vaped...if she had several of them setup, she could just pickup the next one when the one she was using got empty...they could also be left where ever she spends her time...her favorite chair, her bedside, the kitchen...this would keep her from having to carry them around but to implement would take at least a half dozen+ and still require you to come by and do a fill up every week...tough situation to be in, I hope you can find a solution to help the both of you and to keep her off the funkarettes..........
madjack

 

[flbutterfly1]

Normally I think of this as a no-no but.... Blu sells disposeables at walgreens and they seem to last most people atleast 2 days. They range from 5.99 in some areas to 7.99 in others. If she is not a real chain smoker then I think the disp. might work. They are 24 mg and tobacco or menthol. Seem to be about the same price as a pack of smokes and if they last as long as a pack might then they would cost the same. When you open the package there is just a sticker to remove and then they are useable. So no charging, refilling, caps and little peices to worry about. The only other thing i could think of would to be the biggest ego batteries with a map tank on it so if she had 4 or so of the big batts and 2 tanks maybe that would last the week and you could put her batts on to charge once a week when you or your bros/sisters visit. Tanks are large enough that she might be able to handle them easily and only have to change it out once a week. Maybe a mod that you can use the tanks on that has batts that last for 2 days would be nice also.

 

[tiffytiff]

i was thinking prefilled cartos too, along with a pass thru, but would want to find someone that has good liquid in the pre-filled....might get a little costly though :/

 

[baronvoncardo]

I like the passthrough idea. Vape all day, no batteries to fumble around with or caps to unscrew.

The only remaining problem is how to keep her with plenty of juice. I recently bought a couple of these:

GotVapes VISION DEUX Clear Giant 3.5ml 510 Cartomizer 1 Piece [gv-visionDEUXclearomizer-3.5ml] - $7.95 : GotVapes.com, E-cigarette Supplies - Atomizers Cartomizers Mods Juice and more

They could screw on any 510 passthrough, hold 3.5 ml of juice, seal very nicely, and all I've had to do to make them wick well is draw air through the tip from time to time (suck on the tip without firing).

Cheers for being there for your Mom. I hope she is able to maintain her independence and enjoy a good vape!

 

[roxics]

Thank you for all your suggestions.

I don't think she would like a pass-through very much. She woudl feel tied down. She does move around a lot. Realistically someone would be there at least every other day, if not every day. So techically whatever she uses would only have to last two days tops.

After thinking about it more, a couple of Riva sets might be the simpliest and cheapest solution paired with a couple xl clear cartomizers like the dual coils I just got. Or as other mentioned even the eGo t with B tank. Four batteries would last two days even if she vaped heavy, which I assume she would. The XL cartos would last half a day for her I would imagine and being clear they would be easy for me to refill since I can see how much juice is left in them.

Another, slighlty more expensive solution would be a SB with a MAP tank. An 18650 in mine will last two days. It's big with a big easy to press button which would make it easy for her. But I just don't know how much she would like a big mod.

 

[Vermonster13]

Get her an eGo passthru. She can carry it around like any other PV and use the passthru when she is in one place for a while and for charging it. Get her a bunch of CE2 XL cartos or Giantomizers and fill her up a bunch of them at a time. If she's only smoking a few cigs a day, a full CE2 XL may be enough to last her all day and Giantomizer most likely will.

 

[Vermonster13]

Also get her nic levels to as low as you can. nic causes arteries to constrict and that is not something a stroke victim needs. If she went 5 months without cigs she is most likely doing it out of boredom than anything else anyways.

 

[Uma]

Sorry to hear about your Mom. {{{{{{{{ hugs }}}}}}}

The SB is a great idea, it's very comfortable and easy to hold for those who can't "grip" little things anymore. Paired with an EMDCC, it looks great and acts great. She'll have to change out the battery every day though... which means untwisting the Bullet Cap off and on. Oh wait, they now come in many colors to choose from.. how about a color for every day of the week. The Liquinator has SB tanks that might interest you too. (I use a Black SB with emdcc and the 510-ego adapter).

The Helix (when you can find one in stock) paired with a EMDCC with 50/50 juice would omit the battery charging/changing problem, (every 4-5 days) and the EMDCC is really easy to refill. (it's like a regular carto that 's been set under a magnifying glass). You won't mind refilling these on your visit and she might be able to handle if desperate enough. The EMDCC holds 4-5ml's. It's also big enough to easily twist into place with less gripping. The bigger the mod, the easier it will be to hold, to a certain extent. Too big and it'll be harder.

The eGo PT is a good option if she can handle gripping little things.

The REO Grand would be easy to change out the battery, but not the bottle. (the bottle is easy for us regular folks though). She'll be able to slide the door easily. As long as she has extra batteries she won't even need to worry about charging them until you get there and do that for her. But she will need to change every day for optimal performance. Cartomizers can be used on the Reo, which will make it easier to keep moist. An atty would take a lot of squeeze sessions. Put on a prefilled carto, fill up the juice bottle, and teach her how to gently squeeze whenever it tastes "off". It's easy to over do it, so be sure to plan lots of extra time to make sure she can handle it. Which brings up another question... will it be comfortable for her to hold? Mine is for me, as long as I set the narrow side into the web of my thumb/forefinger and use my index on the button. She might have a tougher time though, I don't know. I wish I had an extra grand, I'd send you one to try out. They're great BF's.

 

[swedishfish]

How about an echo? It's automatic and the cartomizers hold about 3-4 ml of juice. I think the battery is 1300 mah.

By the way, I'm really sorry to hear about you Mom.

 

[Iffy]

How often would you or your siblings be able to visit her? The reason I ask is if it's twice a week or more, then six eGo type batts with eMDCCs would allow her vaping while some batts are charging. Due to the rotation those batts would last a long time. E-Powers might also be worthwhile. Screwing/unscrewing the batts for charging seems to be implausible for her.

Sorry about your Mom! Hopefully you can work up something to get her off 'bakky and eliminate the possibility of fire.

Prayers out to ya'll...

 

[tiffytiff]

ya know the more i think about the more i agree with uma. i suggest you get her a silver bullet too. it will be much easier for her to hold. you wouldnt think so, but i have carpal tunnel, and the smaller units i have.....well i drop them a lot, but the bullet would be perfect, i had one loved it, switched for a vv mod, but that's unimportant, the important thing is, it was easy to hold on to. the button is big, easy to push, yep, thats my vote

 

[my4jewels]

Here's an idea. You figure out what kind of pv to get her, ego, ego passthrough, riva, etc...

I would be happy to pif a couple syringe tank mods and send them to you with a couple of punched ressurector cartos. These caros run at around 1.7ohms, so she'll get a good vape on a lower voltage pv. These tanks hold around 5ml of e juice. They DO NOT leak. She can lay them down, whatever, they just don't leak. You will need to fill them for her with a syringe. I will also send you a syringe. You will need to watch this video to see how they work and how to refill them; http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/general-e-smoking-discussion/220756-homemade-syringe-tank-mod-looks-easy.html Just pm me if you decide to go this route.

Kudos to you for helping your mom. I also caretake fulltime for my 82 yr. old mom, who lives with us, and part-time for my in-laws, one of whom has very bad Alzheimer's. Smoking has never been one of their issues, but we all have to go that extra mile to take care of our parents; they took care of us for a long time.

 

[tiffytiff]

never ceases to amaze me, peoples kindness on this forum my4jewels, very nice