Russ, et al... Please don't take what I said the wrong way. I am anything but pro ProVari these days, in fact just the opposite. Mine have not been used for months, I don't see them ever being used again by me and I severed a long personal friendship with a Team ProVape member. I just don't think it is a fair comparison with the water "oops" between a mech and a VV/VW mod.