QLD Health bans nic import - ecig ban confusion

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Ban on 'clayton' cigarettes irks users- Local Cairns News | cairns.com.au

Ban on 'clayton' cigarettes irks users
Natalie Dixon
Friday, May 6, 2011
© The Cairns Post

USERS of an illegal smokeless, battery powered cigarette say they can't understand what the problem is with the product.
More than 70 consignments of e-cigarettes, some destined for Cairns, have been seized at Brisbane Airport in the past month.
Queensland Health is warning people not to buy the smokeless smokes which they say are illegal in Australia and dangerous.
But e-cigarette users in the Far North are disappointed by the reaction to a product they say is cheaper and cleaner than normal cigarettes.
Cairns man Jarred Lucas began using e-cigarettes last year and has not smoked a standard smoke since.
He said the product costs less than $5 and last about the same time as a packet of tailor-made cigarettes.
Mr Lucas said he inhales and exhales liquid nicotine suspended in propylene glycol and water from cartridges inside a rechargeable holder.
“I used to smoke up to two packets a day, if I was feeling stressed out and I could never quit, no matter how much I tried,” he said.
“As far as I am concerned they are healthier than normal cigarettes, there is no tar or sulphur in them and I don’t have to find a place to flick my .... when I am done.”
A spokesperson for the Federal Department of Health and Ageing said the e-cigarette had not been evaluated for safety or efficacy.
“Nicotine has well recognised physiological and pathological effects and, as with conventional cigarettes, the e-cigarette would be expected to lead to, and sustain, nicotine addiction,” he said
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This article claims that ecigarettes have been banned in Queensland, Australia. However, the reporter has incorrectly researched the article. Queensland Health has been seizing nicotine containing liquid from incoming international mail.



This kind of rubbish makes us vapers in Australia feel like criminals just for using e-cigs in public!

Please take a few minutes and leave a comment on either or both of the original pages to show your support of our fellow Aussie Vapers!
 

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Left a comment. Quoted from the 2001 Addiction article by McNeill, Foulds, & Bates: "The regulatory framework works against public health. The production and widespread availability of more satisfying forms of nicotine delivery might lead to a greater number of people being addicted to nicotine, but many fewer would fall ill or die from their use."

Didn't think of it until after I stored the comment, but the question to ask regulators is:

Why do you believe that your concern about my addiction is more important than my concern about developing cancer or a having a heart attack?
 
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Elaine I loved you missed opportunity so I added-

""A spokesperson for the Federal Department of Health and Ageing said the e-cigarette had not been evaluated for safety or efficacy.
“Nicotine has well recognised physiological and pathological effects and, as with conventional cigarettes, the e-cigarette would be expected to lead to, and sustain, nicotine addiction,” he said. "


Why does the Health Department believe their concern about my addiction is more important than my concern about developing cancer or a having a heart attack?
 

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I made my comment of the doctor saying that a child could die from drinking the e-liquid. One thing it taste so bad when I get juice in my mouth that I can't see a child trying to drink it, also any good parent should keep small children out of the e-juice cabinet, just like they do for bleach, and other poisonous substances. Course we all know that some people shouldn't be parents at all, just watch Dr. Phil!
 

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I left this comment :

To state that a product is dangerous would surely require some proof or at least some evidence that it has harmed someone. Was this question asked? I doubt it. The fact is that people who use e-cigs are reporting improved health. The seizure of these products is nothing but an attack on personal choice and freedom. Queensland Health should make a public apology.
 

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I left a comment yesterday. I was in outraged "Daily Mail reader" mode..

I guess the QLD government is just angry that smokers have found a less harmful alternative that works. But they don't have control over it, and under the guise of "protecting" people they opt to ban it. And also introduce draconian fines against people merely trying to improve their own health (not harming anyone else). This is just an example of where the nanny state can lead. Luckily we voted out our control freak, socialist government who were headed in the same direction. Australia is a great place, but this sort of ebbing away at civil liberties just makes me sick.I have personally vaped for nearly 3 years now, following 20 years of smoking, and have measurably improved health as a result. I have significantly improved my lung capacity, and in my opinion, reduced the risk of cancer. E-cigs contain a tiny fraction of the carcinogenic TSNA's contained in tobacco smoke (comparable level to NRT product) and that is a fact, backed by evidence. And yet these clowns would say "they are not proven to be effective". I guess they would want me to just go back to the cancer sticks which are known killers (but give them a healthy tax income no doubt). It's appalling.
 

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This is a recent media release from the same woman who is leading the charge against e-cigarettes in QLD
http://www.health.qld.gov.au/news/media_releases/qhe_cigs0515.pdf

5 May 2011
Regional Queenslanders warned e-cigarettes are poison
Queensland Health is warning Queenslanders not to buy e-cigarettes containing liquid
nicotine, following the seizure of more than 70 consignments imported into the country.
Health Protection Directorate Executive Director Sophie Dwyer said Queensland Health
had been advised Queenslanders were buying e-cigarettes from overseas websites and
importing them into Australia.
“E-cigarettes are illegal in Australia,” she said.
“They contain vials of liquid nicotine, which is a very dangerous poison,” she said.
In the past month, the Brisbane North Public Health Unit has seized and destroyed about
70 consignments at Brisbane Airport’s postal screening service. The shipments were
destined for locations across Brisbane and regional areas including Cairns, Gold Coast,
Darling Downs, Logan, Mackay, Rockhampton, Sunshine Coast, Townsville and Wide Bay.

”It is classed as a Schedule 7 dangerous poison under the Australian Standard for the
Uniform Scheduling of Medicines and Poisons,” Ms Dwyer said.
“If used inappropriately – or if children get hold of the liquid nicotine – the consequences
can be fatal,” she said.
The World Health Organisation’s International Program on Chemical Safety advises that
10mg of liquid nicotine can kill a child within five minutes of them swallowing it.
“The e-cigarettes are being misleadingly marketed as a safe alternative to cigarettes and as
an aid in withdrawal from tobacco smoking – but this is not the case,” Ms Dwyer said.
“There is no evidence e-cigarettes are effective in helping people to quit smoking.
“There are a range of safe products people can use to help them quit smoking, including
nicotine patches, gum, lozenges, inhalers or sublingual (under-the-tongue) tablets,” she
said.
Queensland Health is committed to making Queenslanders Australia’s healthiest people
and has set bold targets to cut smoking by one third.
“Our smoke-free laws regarding both indoor and outdoor smoking lead the nation,” Ms
Dwyer said.

“We also run mass media campaigns, a Quitline service and programs for high-risk
people.”
“Our anti-smoking programs are reducing Queenslanders’ exposure to environmental
tobacco smoke, contributing to a culture that supports smokers trying to quit and
discouraging young people from taking up the habit,” she said.
The latest data shows smoking rates among adults have dropped to 15.5% in 2010 from
22.1 per cent in 2001.
The Queensland Government has recently launched the My Smoking campaign that
targets Queenslanders aged 18 to 24 years who smoke and seeks to prompt young people
to contemplate their smoking and encourage them to quit.
Further information about the campaign is available at mysmoking - Queensland Health.
ENDS
Editors please note:.
Some audio grabs of Sophie Dwyer are available on request.
Media contact: +617 3234 1439
 

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I would also argue that if Queensland Health continue seizing (stealing) the shipments of e-cigs and liquid nicotine products from Queenland residents, then Queensland Health should be forced to pay for all the future health care of their victims. If the victims of Queensland Health's seizure and banning campaign die of a smoking related disease then (obviously) Queenland Health should be held accountable and be forced to pay for the funeral expenses, lost wages / salary etc. They should also be held legally liable to pay huge compensatory payments to the surviving relatives. Let's be realistic - we live in a society where the law states that those who cause harm to others must financially compensate their victim.
 
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Thanks for comments and support people .. I was the one who uploaded the original vid (heh, and added a stoney was here this time) .. never had so many thumbs down before..
as an update, the seizures only happened for about 2 or 3 weeks, I wont mention any names .. but we heard on the grapevine that the person responsible within Queensland Health was moved to a different position.
Maybe due to a barrage of complaints about 'theft' .. who knows.
 
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