Question about charging time

[bic247]

Not sure if this is in the right spot but i was curious does anyone know the recommended charging time for my riva? i mean on the manual it says 3 hours even if the light is green but then on the same manual on a different page it says 2 and a half hours, can someone help me here? i been charging for 3 hours and only recently saw the 2 and a half and im unsure whether or not over charging could make the batteries die out quicker? lately they die after 2-3 days i usually get about a week out of them when i first got them. thanks in advance

 

[mwa102464]

The power cell degrades as the resistance builds up in the Batt, so they will be stronger Batts when new and not as strong as they get older,,, charging time can vary, the light n your charger should go from red to green when fully charged bic247 then pull the Batt from the charger, dont let it stay in the charger once fully charged. Hope that helps

 

[bic247]

okay so as soon as i see green light i just take it off asap?

 

[solardrgn]

okay so as soon as i see green light i just take it off asap?

yup. if its done, its done. you're not going to be able to put more power when it's already full

 

[bic247]

thanks alot for the quick replies i will remember this also i was curious if anyone knew if my riva charger would work on a KGO battery without causing any fires or smoke or anything really bad to happen?

 

[underice]

yup. if its done, its done. you're not going to be able to put more power when it's already full

Is there actual harm in letting it stay on the charger or will it just stop charging?

 

[bic247]

bump need an answer asap because i have to charge the battery my friend gave me and i don't wanna burn down my apartment complex trying to charge it unless i was sure

thanks alot for the quick replies i will remember this also i was curious if anyone knew if my riva charger would work on a KGO battery without causing any fires or smoke or anything really bad to happen?

 

[bic247]

please someone im not above begging when it comes to creating a fire hazard or not

 

[cags]

I don't know the answer, but if in doubt, don't do it.

maybe you can find an answer or ask in this section:

eGo Type Models

 

[cags]

Is there actual harm in letting it stay on the charger or will it just stop charging?

I choose to take mine off as soon as they are finished. it seems there might be a problem with leaving them on ... search the forum for explode or exploding.

also, mine are charged when I am around so I can watch them. I treat charging batteries like I do using the dryer. it's not a good idea to let your dryer run while you aren't around...

hope that helps

 

[Ladypixel]

Having read the original post, I have a couple questions.

1) How long have you had these batteries? You say that when you first got them, they lasted you a couple weeks, and now they're down to a few hours. Any rechargeable battery can start to fail after a while, and it's entirely possible you need to get new batteries.

2) If they're still pretty new, how long (on average) do you use them before charging? In other words, do you start with a fully charged battery and use it until it no longer works, or do you recharge it sooner? My experience is that if you never let the battery run fully "dry" (i.e., run it out of charge), it has a longer lifespan for the battery as a whole.


Now, on to answering your more recent questions:

It is recommended all over ECF to avoid leaving your batteries alone while charging (i.e. leaving them on the charger when you go to bed, leaving them on the charger when you go out somewhere, etc). Provided that you're not doing this, my experience is that it does in fact take 2-3 hours to fully recharge a battery if it's almost completely drained. It takes a lot less time if it's still partially carrying a charge. If you remove it from the charger when the charger shows green and you're only getting a couple hours of life out of it, it is definitely time to replace it. However, if it's fully charged and working functionally, it should last a lot longer than a couple hours provided that you're not constantly chain-vaping for that couple of hours.

 

[cags]

bump need an answer asap because i have to charge the battery my friend gave me and i don't wanna burn down my apartment complex trying to charge it unless i was sure

I just happened upon this thread, see post #9

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/general-e-smoking-discussion/257935-help-did-i-fry-my-kgo-battery.html

 

[bic247]

Having read the original post, I have a couple questions.

1) How long have you had these batteries? You say that when you first got them, they lasted you a couple weeks, and now they're down to a few hours. Any rechargeable battery can start to fail after a while, and it's entirely possible you need to get new batteries.

2) If they're still pretty new, how long (on average) do you use them before charging? In other words, do you start with a fully charged battery and use it until it no longer works, or do you recharge it sooner? My experience is that if you never let the battery run fully "dry" (i.e., run it out of charge), it has a longer lifespan for the battery as a whole.


Now, on to answering your more recent questions:

It is recommended all over ECF to avoid leaving your batteries alone while charging (i.e. leaving them on the charger when you go to bed, leaving them on the charger when you go out somewhere, etc). Provided that you're not doing this, my experience is that it does in fact take 2-3 hours to fully recharge a battery if it's almost completely drained. It takes a lot less time if it's still partially carrying a charge. If you remove it from the charger when the charger shows green and you're only getting a couple hours of life out of it, it is definitely time to replace it. However, if it's fully charged and working functionally, it should last a lot longer than a couple hours provided that you're not constantly chain-vaping for that couple of hours.

1) i have had them for a month and a halfish
2)i start with it fully charged and use it until it flashes and i gotta recharge it then i pop in the new one and repeat

 

[Ladypixel]

Okay. My guess is that you should swap out your batteries a bit more often so they never completely and totally discharge. While older-model batteries used to have the recommendation of using until discharged prior to recharging, the more recent few years' batteries are a bit different, and if you fully discharge it every time (as would appear to be the case), the time that your charge last slowly but surely reduces.

It may be time for you to consider picking up a third battery to add to the rotation, or to pick up two new batteries and leave the older ones for backups for your backups.

 

[bic247]

well that's certainly interesting ill have to do that then, and my girlfriend was wanting to buy me a kgo battery for my birthday and i am really excited about it especially considering it in a different color then black, i will have to start doing that then, i usually get 2-3 days with 1.5 ohm cartos but before i started using those it would last a week or so so maybe that could also be a reason im not entirely sure but i will start rotating them out, do you think i could use it for maybe a day swap it out and recharge?

 

[Ladypixel]

Some cartos do apparently cause batteries to lose efficiency, but I am less-familiarized in that than I'd like to be to offer a sound answer. I'm still familiarizing myself with the lower-ohm cartos as opposed to something in the 2-2.5ohm range.

However, I can tell you that you'll likely love the kgo batteries. I know my husband does.

I do think that you can hang on to the old batteries to use for a while, though, so don't pitch 'em in the trash or ewaste bin just yet. They just won't have the full lifespan that they had when they were new, so you have to sort of prepare for a lower charge-period. That's all!

 

[Caridwen]

thanks alot for the quick replies i will remember this also i was curious if anyone knew if my riva charger would work on a KGO battery without causing any fires or smoke or anything really bad to happen?

No, they will not. Hoosier states on his website not to use the Joye ego charger for KGO batteries. I don't know if the riva batteries are any different, but I wouldn't. I can't charge my echo-e batteries on my other ego/riva chargers either. Same with the VV ego. I mark my chargers.

 

[Caridwen]

Some cartos do apparently cause batteries to lose efficiency, but I am less-familiarized in that than I'd like to be to offer a sound answer. I'm still familiarizing myself with the lower-ohm cartos as opposed to something in the 2-2.5ohm range.

However, I can tell you that you'll likely love the kgo batteries. I know my husband does.

I do think that you can hang on to the old batteries to use for a while, though, so don't pitch 'em in the trash or ewaste bin just yet. They just won't have the full lifespan that they had when they were new, so you have to sort of prepare for a lower charge-period. That's all!

Low resistance cartos/atty reduce battery charge by about half. The best thing to do is invest in an inexpensive voltage meter. When it takes longer and longer to charge a battery and the charge life is shorter, best to disgard them. I've had issues with two batteries right before they died. The buttons stuck.

 

[cags]

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I do think that you can hang on to the old batteries to use for a while, though, so don't pitch 'em in the trash or ewaste bin just yet. They just won't have the full lifespan that they had when they were new, so you have to sort of prepare for a lower charge-period. That's all!

you should hang on to the old batteries! you will be really happy you have them if something horrible happens like all your others act up at the same time (see my signature!)

 

[bic247]

lots of info, lots of confusion!!