Question about twisted coil

[Pierre Marios]

okay hey guys i got questions about twisting coil does it reduce the power Resistant of the coil what i know the twist coil will make the coil cooler cause it takes time to travel from point to point in the wire am i right? I’ll be pleased for little explanation sorry if this question has been asked i just didnt get what i want

 

[zoiDman]

For a Good Conductor, the Signal or Energy Speed is close to the Speed of Light. So the Insignificant increase in the Length of a the wire used to make a Twist Coil vs a Plain Coil isn't very meaningful.

Now an Increase in the Mass or Length of a wire Does effect Resistance. Which can Greatly effect the type of Hit you get.

But the Signal/Energy Speed from End to End of a Coil Wire is, for All Intent, the same.

 

[Rossum]

i got questions about twisting coil

What exactly do you mean by, "twisting coil"?

 

[Pierre Marios]

What exactly do you mean by, "twisting coil"?

For example how i can make .5 ohm twisted coil like i need 2 of 1 ohm wire and twist them together like normal?

 

[Don29palms]

For example how i can make .5 ohm twisted coil like i need 2 of 1 ohm wire and twist them together like normal?

Steam-engine.org is your friend

 

[Rossum]

For example how i can make .5 ohm twisted coil like i need 2 of 1 ohm wire and twist them together like normal?

Yes, that will work, but the resistance will be silightly higher than you think due to the increase in length of the individual wires due to the twist.

I agree with Don; Steam Engine handles the resistance calculation pretty well, however, the surface area calculation is not very accurate because it doesn't take into account how much the wires shield each other.

 

[DaveP]

Twisting two wires of the same gauge effectively doubles the size and mass of the wire and effectively raises the gauge of the resulting coil wire. That will affect heat rise rate of the coil.

You might want to consider trying a dual coil atomizer. You'd have the same wire in two coils and double the amount of juice exposed to heat with dual wicks. That might be more efficient.

 

[Kickingthesticks]

Never liked twisted coils. Always seems to hot for me, but I'm probably doing it wrong lol

 

[sonicbomb]

OP are you planning on using twisted coils on a regulated or unregulated device?

 

[GOMuniEsq]

You should probably just forget about the scientific rationale. Others have linked steam-engine. The pertinent reason to use twisted wire is to increase the surface area for vaporization. You get better vapor production and flavor since the juice clings to the crevices.

 

[Pierre Marios]

OP are you planning on using twisted coils on a regulated or unregulated device?

Unreg

 

[greek mule]

OP are you planning on using twisted coils on a regulated or unregulated device?

OP uses VGOD mech pro2 with Elite rda (dual coil) and Samsung 30Q battery.
My rda mech mod setup?help #59

 

[greek mule]

Your battery limits the targeted resistance down to 0.3 ohm.Don't go lower than that.Use Steam Engine (coil wrapping and wire Wizard applications)set targeted resistance,dual coil,twisted wire,inner diameter,metal type,awg etc. and aim for a heat flux of 300-350mw/mm² at 50W

 

[sonicbomb]

Unreg

Twisted coils are a great way of getting the low resistances required for high wattages on an unregulated device, while keeping the mass to surface area ratio high.
Two strands of wire twisted is electrically the same as two parallel strands of wire (side by side). When you add a second piece of wire in parallel, the resistance halves.

eg.
One 40mm length of 26 guage kanthal will be 0.45 ohms
Two 40 mm lengths of the same wire in parallel will be 0.225 ohms

Why is using multiple strands of thinner wire better than using a single strand of thicker wire?
If you have two lengths of wire with one twice the thickness of the other, the thicker wire will have twice the surface area but four times the mass.
On an unregulated device maximizing surface area and minimizing the total mass (amount of metal) is key.

 

[Rossum]

Two strands of wire twisted is electrically the same as two parallel strands of wire (side by side). When you add a second piece of wire in parallel, the resistance halves.

Not completely correct in practice. A twisted coil of X wraps of Y diameter will have somewhat more mass and higher resistance than a parallel coil with the same number of wraps and diameter. When you twist multiple strands together, the finished product is always somewhat shorter than the untwisted strands you started out with. How much shorter it ends up depends on how tightly it's twisted, but the bottom line is, you'll be using more wire in those X wraps of Y diameter with a twisted coil than a straight parallel coil.

 

[Don29palms]

This person SHOULD NOT be using a mech mod. It is an accident waiting to happen.

 

[greek mule]

This person SHOULD NOT be using a mech mod. It is an accident waiting to happen.

I told that several times at his previous threads but he is determined to do so.That is why I try at least to educate him.But I have a bad feeling about this..

 

[Pierre Marios]

This person SHOULD NOT be using a mech mod. It is an accident waiting to happen.

Okay expert thanks first of all its my face not urs and I’ll not use something without knowing 100% rn im using my mech mod and happy with it when I explode I’ll hit u up dw.

 

[GOMuniEsq]

Okay expert thanks first of all its my face not urs and I’ll not use something without knowing 100% rn im using my mech mod and happy with it when I explode I’ll hit u up dw.

Not true. Your misplaced confidence will hurt our cause when you end up on the news with a melted face. It'll hurt your retailer when you try sue him. You are snarky when you should be receptive to feedback. People are concerned about you. Whatever you do, don't carry your spare batteries with your pocket change.

 

[dom qp]

Okay expert thanks first of all its my face not urs and I’ll not use something without knowing 100% rn im using my mech mod and happy with it when I explode I’ll hit u up dw.

Yet the questions you ask are basic and demonstrate that you lack a fundamental understanding of how the circuit in a mech mod works.

Don't mistake ignorance for mastery. You can't 'knowing 100% rn' when you don't even know what you don't know.

Il n'est pas compliqué ton mecha. Pourtant il serait sage de l'aborder avec prudence.