Question - end caps for GG = spring, metal plate, other?

[imeothanasis]

Cheers iken! I'm not here as much now due to real life getting in the way

Sounds like the 510 is a better performer from what you're saying. I did try the 801 adapter when I had the largeer GG and didn't really get on with that either so I'm still not convinced that 6V is for everyone. I'm happy with my Nano

Me too scrub

 

[Iken]

Cheers iken! I'm not here as much now due to real life getting in the way

Sounds like the 510 is a better performer from what you're saying. I did try the 801 adapter when I had the largeer GG and didn't really get on with that either so I'm still not convinced that 6V is for everyone. I'm happy with my Nano

Cheers back to you good buddy!
Damn real life always getting in the way, the nerves of some things, eh?
lol I wouldn't doubt your statement for anything in the world old friend. Nor would I ever push anything on to someone to force them to like what I do Ooo the 510 does preform very well, it was hard for me to switch over to the 801 but now I'm content, I guessthe 801 atom just needed to adjust or for me to adjust to the 801! Lol
Can I ask you, why you didn't enjoy it that much?

 

[caesar]

Well, please don't flame!

There is a difference and I believe you. The explanation is also very simple.
It has nothing to do with materials because at that thickness the resistance won't make any difference from a 22 gauge wire.
But it has everything to do with attys.

I have 901 attys from different sources and they are very different.

The ones from theelectroniccigarette run the coolest and i use them at 5.5V at home for a massive vape (a wall adapter with 5.5V and 1A).
The ones from ebay work at 4.2V, at 5.5V I lost 2 of them in an instant. These I use with a 3xNiMH Nicobox but at 4.2V they still get so hot after 4 vapes that I can't touch them. (yes, Ni-MH range from 1.44V fully charged to 1.18V when vaping stops) Still these produce the largest amount of vape

So there is a difference and that's because of atty quality.

Bottomline is you should cherish the GG and the attys that match it! It's a great product.
Second: everyone with it's own throat

PS: a RN4081 atty at 4.5V-5V can kick a 6V 901's dorsal it will make you think you're puffin on chilli's
But then again I can bring a RN4081 atty to glow using only a regular lithium battery so we are talking apple and carrots here.

 

[Judge Mental]

I wasn't 100% satisfied with my 6V GG at all. That's why I changed mine to a Nano. I wasn't vocal about it on here but I discussed it at length with Tim and arranged a swap. 6V was way too harsh and was killing my atomisers.

Couldn't you have acheived the same thing by switching to the lower voltage batteries (3.7 AA)? Or did you just prefer the smaller size of the Nano?

 

[rejoice]

This talk about 5v being the sweet spot. I do not know that answer. I had cancel my order for the Prodigy,and decided to order it. The reason for this is to see if this 5v is true. I really do not think it is true. I have decided to find out for myself. I want to see if it has the vapor production like GG. I want to test the flavors with both units. I have heard on forum that the flavor of the liquids are better at 5v. We shall see soon. I cannot say,which is better the GG or Prodigy. Unless I owe both.

 

[smokindeuce]

Well, please don't flame!

There is a difference and I believe you. The explanation is also very simple.
It has nothing to do with materials because at that thickness the resistance won't make any difference from a 22 gauge wire.
But it has everything to do with attys.

I have 901 attys from different sources and they are very different.

The ones from theelectroniccigarette run the coolest and i use them at 5.5V at home for a massive vape (a wall adapter with 5.5V and 1A).
The ones from ebay work at 4.2V, at 5.5V I lost 2 of them in an instant. These I use with a 3xNiMH Nicobox but at 4.2V they still get so hot after 4 vapes that I can't touch them. (yes, Ni-MH range from 1.44V fully charged to 1.18V when vaping stops) Still these produce the largest amount of vape

So there is a difference and that's because of atty quality.

Bottomline is you should cherish the GG and the attys that match it! It's a great product.
Second: everyone with it's own throat

PS: a RN4081 atty at 4.5V-5V can kick a 6V 901's dorsal it will make you think you're puffin on chilli's
But then again I can bring a RN4081 atty to glow using only a regular lithium battery so we are talking apple and carrots here.

I think you hit the nail on the head with that post caesar - nice explanation!

 

[Judge Mental]

'Scuse the interruption...

Tim, could you clean out your PM box, please?

 

[scrubadub]

Can I ask you, why you didn't enjoy it that much?

It was just way too harsh for me and I didn't like what it did to the flavour (or my throat ). I found I could fix it slightly by taking shorter drags but that doesn't suit me. I much prefer taking longer tokes.

Couldn't you have acheived the same thing by switching to the lower voltage batteries (3.7 AA)? Or did you just prefer the smaller size of the Nano?

I could have done yes but I had an earlier model with a spring and spacers and had problems with that. I had to send it back anyway so I thought I may as well have the nano as I didn't really like the spacers arrangement, I had no need for the 6V option and it's smaller as you say.

 

[Di]

jumping in here
ok guys,
I am not into your voltage stuff at all,
I just want to put forward this --

I was smokinh a Light vaper 801
modded from an aluminum flashlite,
with 801 atty of course, and 18650 battery
very good smoke, and decent throat and good juice taste--

then I took the same atty, and the same battery
and put it into my steel tube mod from billyboy,
now the same atty, and same battery is
giving more smoke, and more taste

so you explain what makes the difference,
I dont know, I just know it is different --

the same is true for the billyboy steel tube mod
with 6v batteries,
and then swap the same batteries,
and the same atty over onto the GG
and we get the same improvement in smoke output,
and juice taste -- again ---

so it really does have something to do with the actual device,

I dont know what, or why,
I just know it does -----------
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IYAMH *WHAT DREAMS MAY COME *

 

[Judge Mental]

Thanks for clarifying, scrub.

 

[wegster]

This talk about 5v being the sweet spot. I do not know that answer. I had cancel my order for the Prodigy,and decided to order it. The reason for this is to see if this 5v is true. I really do not think it is true. I have decided to find out for myself. I want to see if it has the vapor production like GG. I want to test the flavors with both units. I have heard on forum that the flavor of the liquids are better at 5v. We shall see soon. I cannot say,which is better the GG or Prodigy. Unless I owe both.

Yep, and there's the thing, none of us really know, or at least not with more than 'vapes great!' type of 'answers,' at least that I've seen. There's nothing wrong with that, either. 'Magic' notwithstanding, 5vDC is 5vDC is 5vDC, and 6vDC is 6vCDC is 6vDC. Ignoring that, it's whichever device makes you happy, which you think will last without issues, which one has the features you want, and for some, which one looks or just 'feel's better, too.

Personally, I've got an 'investment' in 510 attys, and little to no interest in 901s, which pretty much leaves GG, Prodigy or homemade/DIY for me for the most point..anyways, emailed Tim on the site RE: Xformer, waiting to find out how/when/$ etc..

 

[wegster]

'Scuse the interruption...

Tim, could you clean out your PM box, please?

And email?

 

[Iken]

Well, please don't flame!

There is a difference and I believe you. The explanation is also very simple.
It has nothing to do with materials because at that thickness the resistance won't make any difference from a 22 gauge wire.
But it has everything to do with attys.

I have 901 attys from different sources and they are very different.

The ones from theelectroniccigarette run the coolest and i use them at 5.5V at home for a massive vape (a wall adapter with 5.5V and 1A).
The ones from ebay work at 4.2V, at 5.5V I lost 2 of them in an instant. These I use with a 3xNiMH Nicobox but at 4.2V they still get so hot after 4 vapes that I can't touch them. (yes, Ni-MH range from 1.44V fully charged to 1.18V when vaping stops) Still these produce the largest amount of vape

So there is a difference and that's because of atty quality.

Bottomline is you should cherish the GG and the attys that match it! It's a great product.
Second: everyone with it's own throat

PS: a RN4081 atty at 4.5V-5V can kick a 6V 901's dorsal it will make you think you're puffin on chilli's
But then again I can bring a RN4081 atty to glow using only a regular lithium battery so we are talking apple and carrots here.

Hey Caesar,
Not flaming lol I don't flame, I'm always honest and sometimes brutally honest lol
Alot of suppliers as of late been doling out RN-4075 atoms, I have 1 left and will show it in a video hopefully some time today. These atoms light up like a flashlight when connected to a GG. The reason why suppliers are throwing these out to us is because they been discontinued and are being sold from the manufacture for half the price of a 901. I ordered "True" 901's from Wayne at ruyandirect.com and we're having discussions between the two versions not to long ago. The only way to tell the difference is by the performance(by hooking up 6volts) and the cartridges(by the center hole on where you inhale from),There are alot of suppliers that did swap carts and sell labeled as 901, I was a victim from a few.

 

[wegster]

Don't get the wrong idea, Weg, that post was not directed solely at you
"is also not 'the truth.' A circuit's functioning is determined by the voltage, amperage, and resistance. If you supply the same of each, between two devices, they function THE SAME. Sorry, but this is 'The Truth,"
Ah but it isn't because the voltage, amperage and all that other fun stuff are completely different between these two that we're comparing. The only similarity is the functioning. We're not supplying both with the same elements.

No worries. Seems to be a lot of 'she said, she said' going on all around..and it does sort of suck to be on the receiving side of that from a product standpoint....

I wasn't making the comparisons here, however. You can say the amperage and 'other fun stuff' is changing, but that doesn't change my statements. Regardless, you won't be changing amperage directly, only via the voltage or resistance supplied. And there is really no 'other fun stuff,' only Voltage. Resistance comes from the atty (and for some PVs, also an extra resistor), and amps/wattage is simply a function of those two.

 

[mamu]

Seems to be a lot of 'she said, she said' going on all around..and it does sort of suck to be on the receiving side of that from a product standpoint....

Can you explain what you mean??

 

[CaSHMeRe]

Since April till now save for 2 weeks, I haven't burned out a single atom as of yet. GG is not like the Prodigy. Maybe the very 1st GG ever made was close to it but that was a drop out, save for the button placement. People read way too much into Cashmere's words. I cant stress enough how annoying it is hearing the words "sweet spot" circulate like a bunch of hounds at a race now. When the Prodigy video was made, Cash said how extraordinary vaping at 6 volts was through out the whole thing and everyone bobbed their heads "ooo 6 volts yes" Everybody, Don't be lemmings, if you noticed everyone that has a GG is 100% satisfied. There are No real problems.

ps. Forgive me, I dont mean to be mean but this is the Truth.

Sorry to call you out iken, but you have been biased towards the GG since day 1 ... Calling people Lemmings, and telling people they read too far in to "my words" is bull kid and you know it. Both you and Imeo have made passes at the Prodigy since day one, yet I stood by and kept my mouth shut ... BUT ... I won't anymore, because you CONTINUE to badmouth it ...

I still agree, 6v+ using an 801 is amazing, but using any other atomizer is wayyyy tooo much. Making a battery pack to take X batteries is quite simple, working with different resistors and diodes trying to find a *sweet spot* that is in fact for everyone, and doesn't scorch someones throat when using it, is completely different.

A battery pack is a battery pack ... It ain't rocket science. 6v @ 1A is 6v @ 1A, no matter what the device.

Don't get the wrong idea, Weg, that post was not directed solely at you
"is also not 'the truth.' A circuit's functioning is determined by the voltage, amperage, and resistance. If you supply the same of each, between two devices, they function THE SAME. Sorry, but this is 'The Truth,"
Ah but it isn't because the voltage, amperage and all that other fun stuff are completely different between these two that we're comparing. The only similarity is the functioning. We're not supplying both with the same elements.

Not if you pull the resistor on the Prodigy Exactly, the only similarity is the function, much like the SD, so I would certainly appreciate it if you cut the bull and not call Prodigy or PS Followers Lemmings ....

 

[Iken]

Sorry to call you out iken, but you have been biased towards the GG since day 1 ...Actually No I have not been biased in the least, I ONLY support what works Steve, in my video which I'm sure you seen, I literary opened up the package and vaped it for the first time, to make or break the hype that the GG gathered, it was a test and it passed successfully and been ever since through trials on top of trials.I even said said in my video my first impressions of what the GG looks like and at first I wouldn't have taken take out in public, that review is one of the most purest reviews out there and you have no jurisdiction to call me biased.Just like the way you call everyother fanatic biased. But if its in your favor all is right Calling people Lemmings, and telling people they read too far in to "my words" is bull kid and you know it. Sorry but No your wrong again, you manipulate people to the fullest extent, when someone speaks up you put them down harshly in public, and wearing a smile you lift them back up and reward them with a pat on the back "Nice effort kid" and you know it. Both you and Imeo have made passes at the Prodigy since day one, yet I stood by and kept my mouth shut ... BUT ... I won't anymore, because you CONTINUE to badmouth it ... I don't badmouth what I don't have, Show me where I said something bad about Prodigy, I call it like I see it. I am one for keeping the peace and support anyone who makes an effort for improving our community, and You know that as well.

I still agree, 6v+ using an 801 is amazing, but using any other atomizer is wayyyy tooo much. Making a battery pack to take X batteries is quite simple, working with different resistors and diodes trying to find a *sweet spot* that is in fact for everyone, and doesn't scorch someones throat when using it, is completely different. Agreed but truth be told after 3-5 puffs with 2 cr2 batteries the voltage does drop down to 5v mark

A battery pack is a battery pack ... It ain't rocket science. 6v @ 1A is 6v @ 1A, no matter what the device.
I admitted from the get go the 901 is harsh and isn't made for this kind amperage, the 510 does indeed have the strength to withstand the power and just being a great and slow vape, which I'm sure you probably seen on other GG threads. You can deny, it doesn't matter. I support what I know to be the best out there at the moment.



Not if you pull the resistor on the Prodigy Exactly, the only similarity is the function, much like the SD, so I would certainly appreciate it if you cut the bull and not call Prodigy or PS Followers Lemmings ....
I used the lemmings and I will not take it back, because it was it is. You know your fanbase takes everything you say to the heart and just runs with it, you take full advantage of that.

 

[Fred]

Sorry to call you out iken, but you have been biased towards the GG since day 1 ... Calling people Lemmings, and telling people they read too far in to "my words" is bull kid and you know it. Both you and Imeo have made passes at the Prodigy since day one, yet I stood by and kept my mouth shut ... BUT ... I won't anymore, because you CONTINUE to badmouth it ...

I still agree, 6v+ using an 801 is amazing, but using any other atomizer is wayyyy tooo much. Making a battery pack to take X batteries is quite simple, working with different resistors and diodes trying to find a *sweet spot* that is in fact for everyone, and doesn't scorch someones throat when using it, is completely different.

A battery pack is a battery pack ... It ain't rocket science. 6v @ 1A is 6v @ 1A, no matter what the device.



Not if you pull the resistor on the Prodigy Exactly, the only similarity is the function, much like the SD, so I would certainly appreciate it if you cut the bull and not call Prodigy or PS Followers Lemmings ....

So the GG is just a good simple basic device to use only with the 801 adapter.
And the Prodigy is better and more complex because of the research and added electronic to find the sweet spot to provide the customers a smoother experience.

hmmmm ok......
We got the message I think.
Take care.

 

[CaSHMeRe]

Actually No I have not been biased in the least, I ONLY support what works Steve, in my video which I'm sure you seen, I literary opened up the package and vaped it for the first time, to make or break the hype that the GG gathered, it was a test and it passed successfully and been ever since through trials on top of trials.I even said said in my video my first impressions of what the GG looks like and at first I wouldn't have taken take out in public, that review is one of the most purest reviews out there and you have no jurisdiction to call me biased.Just like the way you call everyother fanatic biased. But if its in your favor all is right
A: You had one of the first GG's ever made for a review ... Biased from the get go As sooooo many of the first JS stick reviews came out ... Same goes ... Unbiased, means .... zero stipulations ... Did you pay for the GG or was it given to you for "review purposes" ? The only other person I have called biased was Dikerry, and that was coming in to the PS forum to lay down everything the GG had to offer ... Find me another post where I quote someone as being Biased

Calling people Lemmings, and telling people they read too far in to "my words" is bull kid and you know it. Sorry but No your wrong again, you manipulate people to the fullest extent, when someone speaks up you put them down harshly in public, and wearing a smile you lift them back up and reward them with a pat on the back "Nice effort kid" and you know it.
A: So, in sense, you are calling PS Clients Lemmings, and you feel you have every right to do so? Talk about building a Product Up. IMEO starts a new thread every single day ... even going above and beyond saying how great the GG is. Talk about building a following ... If I wasn't a believer in Christ, I would look to IMEO as being a god, atleast from his pertrayal on videos of himself and products ... I don't hype the Prodigy up, and feel its just a standard PV that can offer the market something different just as the GG can.
Where do I manipulate people?
I tell people how it is all day long ... I try and keep everyone up to date on changes to any of our products, shipping details, etc.... If you mean manipulate by the sense of me calling something the "Sweet Spot" ... That's simply my OWN OPINION, NOT, munipulation.
"...when someone speaks up you put them down harshly in public"
I put YOU down for calling my clients lemmings ... Find me some details on when I have put other people down harshly on this very public forum.

I don't badmouth what I don't have, Show me where I said something bad about Prodigy, I call it like I see it. I am one for keeping the peace and support anyone who makes an effort for improving our community, and You know that as well.
A: So, instead, you badmouth the Person making it and the people buying it? Keeping the piece = sitting down and shutting up, which I have done for quite a long time. Calling people names is NOT, calling it like you see it ... its rather ... slander ...

Agreed but truth be told after 3-5 puffs with 2 cr2 batteries the voltage does drop down to 5v mark
A: And you have tested this under load ? I would be more than happy to make a video with LOAD tests on the functionality of CR2 and RCR123's ... They do NOT drop to the 5v mark under load after just 3-5 puffs ...

I admitted from the get go the 901 is harsh and isn't made for this kind amperage, the 510 does indeed have the strength to withstand the power and just being a great and slow vape, which I'm sure you probably seen on other GG threads. You can deny, it doesn't matter. I support what I know to be the best out there at the moment.
A: Atleast we agree on something ...


Not if you pull the resistor on the Prodigy Exactly, the only similarity is the function, much like the SD, so I would certainly appreciate it if you cut the bull and not call Prodigy or PS Followers Lemmings ....
I used the lemmings and I will not take it back, because it was it is. You know your fanbase takes everything you say to the heart and just runs with it, you take full advantage of that.
A: and the GG community doesn't take IMEO words as gold ? come on now ... There will be fanboys for all different types of suppliers ... Does mine happen to be bigger than other ... sure, but that's also because I have been around for so much longer than anyone and have built this up. I still don't think its fair to call my clients Lemmings ... Which is the only reason I posted. PS/The Prodigy/and myself can take a beating, but when you start insulting client ... that a completely different subject

seee above ... bolded

 

[smokindeuce]

Can you please resolve the rest of this personal feud via pm and stop the bad mouthing on both sides, thanks.... oh and try to stay on thread topic