Im wondering... What causes premature 510 Atomizer death? There are some people that seem to be able to kill them quickly.. Myself however have been on the same atomizer for 3 months... And it still vapes like a monster and i have never cleaned it... So.. Im wondering from others "experience" What do you think could cause 510 atty death in under a week?
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Bad solder joints.
Not enough wire (heats up too much and poof!)
Crappy e-liquid (not yours though!)
Dropping it.
Overuse/overheat.
Giving it a dirty look
Not enough wire (heats up too much and poof!)
Crappy e-liquid (not yours though!)
Dropping it.
Overuse/overheat.
Giving it a dirty look
Under a week? wow, I would say having a somehow defective atomizer from the factory would be my primary guess. Running it totally dry for an extended period. I've only had 1 510 atomizer die on me in almost 3 months and it was my own fault. I ran it in a 5V device and I flooded the atty while doing this.
It seems to me(from reading the forums) that the people who are compulsive about cleaning their atty's are the ones who seem to report the most atty failures. Left alone(with nothing but an occasional manual blow out of excess eliquid) all my atty's (with the exception of the previous mentioned) have worked perfectly with virtually no maintenance.
It seems to me(from reading the forums) that the people who are compulsive about cleaning their atty's are the ones who seem to report the most atty failures. Left alone(with nothing but an occasional manual blow out of excess eliquid) all my atty's (with the exception of the previous mentioned) have worked perfectly with virtually no maintenance.
yeah thats my thoughts on the whole thing too. but having 4 atomizers go in a month all in a row is a little ridiculous.. (i have a customer that claims this right now) Yeah im gonna replace a few for him no biggie. But he exclusively uses TW and Johnson Creek... I know when i used JC for a while it killed some of my attys pretty quick but u dont know why.
Sounds possibly like the power supply(battery) he's/she's using maybe defective in some way to kill all those atty's so quickly. Or just gross negligence on his/her part. There's no way he/she was that unlucky to get 4 defective atty's from the factory(the statistical odds are outrageous). I've used JC-old and new formulations-(never TW) liquid straight and mixed and I never had a problem with it blowing atty's(although I've heard that it can have that tendency).
Bad solder joints.
Not enough wire (heats up too much and poof!)
Crappy e-liquid (not yours though!)
Dropping it.
Overuse/overheat.
Giving it a dirty look
Removing the wick.
Hooking it up to a car battery
I'm not nice to my attys. I take big long hits that cause them to get hotter than Megan Fox in spandex, never clean them, direct drip and flood them, etc... In the 2 months I've had the 510, it's still chugging along like a champ.
I too think it's interesting that the people who most often advocate cleaning the attys are the ones who seem to have the most trouble with them.
Th Nichrome wire in them is essentially a really bad fuse, so maybe high voltage vaping can cause the nichrome wire to go, or excessive heat can cause solder joints to go. However, I often take big 30-45 second vapes and no problem here.
I too think it's interesting that the people who most often advocate cleaning the attys are the ones who seem to have the most trouble with them.
Th Nichrome wire in them is essentially a really bad fuse, so maybe high voltage vaping can cause the nichrome wire to go, or excessive heat can cause solder joints to go. However, I often take big 30-45 second vapes and no problem here.
I had 3 dead in a week that I've always thought was because of a screwy auto batt. Returned it and haven't lost one since, even with running at 5V. Using one right now I got from you in March.
My grandmother still uses one from you she got in April, yet has 10 others from assorted sources that have died in that same time frame. No specific reason I've been able to pinpoint.
My grandmother still uses one from you she got in April, yet has 10 others from assorted sources that have died in that same time frame. No specific reason I've been able to pinpoint.
I've been wondering that too. I've used the same atty straight for almost 3 weeks now. My husband
What happens when an atty dies? Bad taste? Doesn't heat up at all? What?? LOL
What happens when an atty dies? Bad taste? Doesn't heat up at all? What?? LOL
Kristin, all of the above!!
I used an 801 penstyle for a long time, and I KNOW those @#$%^&* batteries blew most of mine. Highcharge, lowcharge, highcharge, etc....I really think it is the battery power wafting and waning, at first you have good heat, then lose it, your atty clogs a bit, pretty soon they burn out. I've had them die slow deaths, one was DOA out of the box. Some developed such a burned taste I couldn't clean it (the coil insulators burned.) But those @#$%^& auto batteries! cost me a fortune.
Then Janty came out with the Stick. $3.20 batteries last forever, four hours or so per charge!! Not so much the $14-18 ones! I really like the 801 attys the best, so the Stick was perfect for me.
I honestly think people clean them too much/too often. Since I have quite all the cleaning rituals both my 901 and 510 attys are fine. Been using the same 510 atty for 9 weeks and my 901 for 8 weeks. I've lost one 510 atty since I got my 510 and it was my fault. I lost several 901's when I was cleaning so often. Since I quit that even the 901's are great. I do a dry burn now and then but that is it. I don't blow them out at night. I don't take them apart or leave them sitting a certain way. I just set it on my table and leave it be until the next day.
Ever since my GF got one from you, I've been hitting the occasional double vape... (2 510's at once) Woooooh... Talk about a head rush.
I like JC flavors, well some of them, but Ive dumped out my stock for this very reason. Every single time I load a cart with anything JC, old or new formula, I either get a lot of black chunks in the fill, then atomizer death a few days later, or immediate atomizer death after a few draws. I could totally believe killing 4 attys in a month if you are using strictly JC. I think either the flavoring or the base is creating excessive residue on the atomizer.
Im REALLY stingy with my juice, too. I wont even wipe off a cart that has some liquid running down the side, thats how bad I am. But, I dumped out over 50+ ml of JC straight down the drain, as I was absolutely certain it was killing my atomizers.
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I don't think it's a problem with JC. I vape that stuff like mad and have been on the same 4 attys for over two months now.
Maybe using 4 at a time gives them some sort of a rest or something or maybe QC is bad in some batches.
From what i have read on these forums the basic method to extend the life of an atty is to pray really really hard and think about puppies and rainbows.
Maybe using 4 at a time gives them some sort of a rest or something or maybe QC is bad in some batches.
From what i have read on these forums the basic method to extend the life of an atty is to pray really really hard and think about puppies and rainbows.
I know people blame atty death on juices all the time, and I think they're usually diagnosing death too early.
If the juices have solids, sugars, or oils in them, they could clog up the atty, but that's not death.
Maybe if these kind of solids heat up too much and torch the atty coil, it'll do damage enough to cause electrical death? The thick tobacco juices (and some other types, like maple, that might have sugars in the flavoring) have been implicated in this.
My question is, how could HV 'resurrect' an atomizer?
See, I thought I'd killed my first two 306 attys (my first kit from Electronicstix) and my first 510 atty, but having known enough tech support people, I always blame 'user error' first.
(I feel for ya, Jason, since you can't really tell customers they're prolly just screwing it up.)
I wasn't juicing them enough, and I was taking long drags, two common beginner errors. They just gave me a burnt taste all the time and performed irregularly. Tried cleaning with an overnight vodka soak and hot water rinse, but that didn't seem to help.
But I hate the idea of throwing out an atomizer, so I kept them. When I got my first HV mod, I juiced them like crazy and tried them out again. Whaddaya know, they're humming along fine.
I've heard similar stories from at least two other people. I know, anecdotes aren't data, but it's interesting.
If the juices have solids, sugars, or oils in them, they could clog up the atty, but that's not death.
Maybe if these kind of solids heat up too much and torch the atty coil, it'll do damage enough to cause electrical death? The thick tobacco juices (and some other types, like maple, that might have sugars in the flavoring) have been implicated in this.
My question is, how could HV 'resurrect' an atomizer?
See, I thought I'd killed my first two 306 attys (my first kit from Electronicstix) and my first 510 atty, but having known enough tech support people, I always blame 'user error' first.
(I feel for ya, Jason, since you can't really tell customers they're prolly just screwing it up.
) I wasn't juicing them enough, and I was taking long drags, two common beginner errors. They just gave me a burnt taste all the time and performed irregularly. Tried cleaning with an overnight vodka soak and hot water rinse, but that didn't seem to help.
But I hate the idea of throwing out an atomizer, so I kept them. When I got my first HV mod, I juiced them like crazy and tried them out again. Whaddaya know, they're humming along fine.
I've heard similar stories from at least two other people. I know, anecdotes aren't data, but it's interesting.
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