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Hi, hope you stay strong. I've just gone through day 4 without a cigarette (25 a day a week ago, sometimes 2 in a row).
10 years ago, after a few trials, I managed to quit for 5 years (nicotine patches and, surprisingly, smoking pure weed helped me
and after a while I was off weed also). But 5 years later, towards the end of a very stressful and chaotic relationship, I started smoking again, up until 4 days ago. Just shows you that you can never drop the guard, once a smoker, it's easier to get back than most think.
10 years ago, after a few trials, I managed to quit for 5 years (nicotine patches and, surprisingly, smoking pure weed helped me
and after a while I was off weed also). But 5 years later, towards the end of a very stressful and chaotic relationship, I started smoking again, up until 4 days ago. Just shows you that you can never drop the guard, once a smoker, it's easier to get back than most think.
Few personal experiences I wanted to share, maybe at least one will help you a little:
1. For me sub ohm is not enough, that's why I also use an mtl device. Best results with high nicotine nic salts, whenever I think of a cigarette I just vape the hell out of it until I start feeling slightly bad from the nicotine. Makes me forget about cigarettes temporarily.
2. I follow my smoking pattern but instead of smoking I vape. I could vape just in the house but I used to go for a cigarette on the balcony, so thats what I do now- go on the balcony and vape high nic
3. Drinking: if you like a drink, don't avoid it in order to prevent yourself from feeling the need of a cigarette. I'd face it: sit down for a few, with specific plan to get tipsy and not smoke a cigarette. Once you do it once or twice it will be easier in the future. I don't drink now at all but that's what helped me to give up 10 years ago.
4. Exercising outdoors helps to keep a clear mind, to whatever extend possible. Jogging, cycling, swimming, even a fast walk for an hour a day, make a big difference. Especially if you are living in a stressful environment, getting away outside is a big bonus alone
1. For me sub ohm is not enough, that's why I also use an mtl device. Best results with high nicotine nic salts, whenever I think of a cigarette I just vape the hell out of it until I start feeling slightly bad from the nicotine. Makes me forget about cigarettes temporarily.
2. I follow my smoking pattern but instead of smoking I vape. I could vape just in the house but I used to go for a cigarette on the balcony, so thats what I do now- go on the balcony and vape high nic
3. Drinking: if you like a drink, don't avoid it in order to prevent yourself from feeling the need of a cigarette. I'd face it: sit down for a few, with specific plan to get tipsy and not smoke a cigarette. Once you do it once or twice it will be easier in the future. I don't drink now at all but that's what helped me to give up 10 years ago.
4. Exercising outdoors helps to keep a clear mind, to whatever extend possible. Jogging, cycling, swimming, even a fast walk for an hour a day, make a big difference. Especially if you are living in a stressful environment, getting away outside is a big bonus alone
oh and I nearly forgot: one thing that helped me, or rather being aware of it helped me: there are certain milestones that you should be careful about after giving up smoking when you become more susceptible to go back. Some friendly soul told me that after 3 months I might loosen up the guard thinking that one cigarette won't cause any harm becuase I already gave up, then another 6 months into giving up, and a year after. It's all in the mind I guess and I subconciously registered that, and this was exactly what happened. In the months to come you might experience the same, maybe at a different time frame, but you should be aware that it might happen. good news is that it gets much easier after you pass a year without cigarettes. Again, these are personal experiences but I think any advice from someone who experienced it before might be helful. Good luck!
@PeterKay , thanks. A year ago, I smoked a pack a day... vaping got me down to 5 a day. After a couple months I finally quit. Did great until the last couple months slowly slipped back into it. I love the outdoor so much (and lived in the mountains for 12 years) Lost my drivers license so ride a bike... good exercise. I also play guitar but haven't played in a long time... going to get it back out (been so wacked I forgot I even had it)
@vaper1960
Yeah, Mac or Mc, as a prefix to a name, means 'son of' in Scotland. Just wasn't sure in what context @smacuser was using it...
The sale of snuss was banned in the EU a few years back, although it's not illegal to possess or use it. In five and a half decades I have never met anyone who uses either snuff or snuss...hence my ignorance.
And well done with the cigs...just one day at a time.
I came across both while at uni in Edinburgh, snuff was local from apothecary shop as far as I can recall, snus was getting brought by some Swedish students. But that was around 2007, didn't know it got banned. Both were more of an experiment than a habit though, just another experiment to top up the list of the crazy stuff myself and my mates did haha
I guess when you've experienced the crazy .... that was going around in the early and mid 90's, the idea of snorting powdered tobacco, or shoving a lump under your gum, seems a bit lame.
No offence meant, just a time and a place thing.
I guess when you've experienced the crazy .... that was going around in the early and mid 90's, the idea of snorting powdered tobacco, or shoving a lump under your gum, seems a bit lame.
No offence meant, just a time and a place thing.
Well there wasn't much background to it, it was more of a casual: "I have some snorting/chewing tobacco, oh and I brough some Hawaiian Woodrose seeds, do you guys want to try?" "Hell Yeah!" sort of situation
Well there wasn't much background to it, it was more of a casual: "I have some snorting/chewing tobacco, oh and I brough some Hawaiian Woodrose seeds, do you guys want to try?" "Hell Yeah!" sort of situation
Yeah, know where you were at.
There was a time, and a galaxy, many, many years ago, that I would've tried anything new offered to me.
The innocence and stupidity of youth.
Paying for it now though...
The feeling of invincibility in your late teens and through your twenties is a very dangerous thing.
Lol, Hawaiin Woodrose seeds. Now, that's a name I haven't heard in a long time... A long time.
And very 90's, but a good way to get a stomach ache IMO.
And very 90's, but a good way to get a stomach ache IMO.
@CagedSpam
Love the moniker, beard, and experience.
No substitute for experience.
I'm as grey as you.
Haha you'd be surprised how much of different oldschool stuff has gone through my hands while at uni. Yeah stomach pain... until you made yourself sick, then it would go away and the fun begun. Cpt grey, I kinda miss that innocence and stupidity already, it hasn't been that long ago but my life has gone 180 since and I have to say I was much happier person back then...
I hate to pop a bubble, and I'll qualify this by saying that I had the best times of my life through the 90's, but...
Abuse catches up with you.
I was as strong as an ox during my 20s...eat anything, drink myself sober, take any number of illicit substances, often in combination, and still get up for work at 7.00 am on a Monday morning.
However, time catches up with all of us. I've had major surgery twice in the last 6 months, to bypass blocked veins in my legs. I've suffered from IBS, and bouts of consistant vomiting for 12-18 hours, for the last 12-15 years. Numerous tests have not found a physical cause, and I've been told it's psychosomatic. Doctor speak for "we haven't got a clue".
I know it's down to the crap I ingested 25-30 years ago, when I thought that I was having the time of my life.
Hindsight is useless, unless it helps others to avoid the same mistakes.
But, when you're 20, and a 40+ year old tells you "that's not a good idea", you generally ignore the advice.
In the late 80s and 90s, the long term detrimental effects of new illicit substances were not known.
The doves, speckled doves, and mitzis are now coming home to roost.
Yeah, I'm suffering for my past ill-advised experiences too. They were fun, most of them. I didn't think I'd be around now to suffer from them back then. Can't turn back time though, and it was fun while it lasted.
The 90s were my fun time through college but honestly snus OR snuff (snuff especially but I had allergies) sounded revolting and kind of awful.
I am going to be honest however: my worst drug experience of all TIME was not believing in the psychoactive properties of nutmeg cookies (the Sikhs in my school brought them for a school road trip, they were absolute MASTERS at finding non drug drugs, and like, really...…) I was like "OH come on this is not a DRUG. I just ate them until someone made me stop. I mean.... thank GOD they did, I don't think I could have eaten too many more. Oh God, they had to be digested so it was NOT a short high. Given the choice between nutmeg and almost ANY other psychoactive, even today, I would vote for the unknown. I recovered by going to a keg party in a freaking cornfield IIRC but I wasn't even a smoker then and usually still biking like 400 miles a week and running 25.
I don't feel that bad for all the drugs I've been through although I kind of always kept things mellow. I have probably done FAR more damage via legitimate prescribed drugs to stabilize my bipolar than anything "illicit." To be fair, prescribed drugs like kill far more people.
Anna
I am going to be honest however: my worst drug experience of all TIME was not believing in the psychoactive properties of nutmeg cookies (the Sikhs in my school brought them for a school road trip, they were absolute MASTERS at finding non drug drugs, and like, really...…) I was like "OH come on this is not a DRUG. I just ate them until someone made me stop. I mean.... thank GOD they did, I don't think I could have eaten too many more. Oh God, they had to be digested so it was NOT a short high. Given the choice between nutmeg and almost ANY other psychoactive, even today, I would vote for the unknown. I recovered by going to a keg party in a freaking cornfield IIRC but I wasn't even a smoker then and usually still biking like 400 miles a week and running 25.
I don't feel that bad for all the drugs I've been through although I kind of always kept things mellow. I have probably done FAR more damage via legitimate prescribed drugs to stabilize my bipolar than anything "illicit." To be fair, prescribed drugs like kill far more people.
Anna
Never tried nutmeg but I've heard bad stories about it from friends who consumed it freshly ground in high doses: people having bad trips for days, blacking out without knowing what happened for the past few hours and how they ended up where they regained awareness of the surroundings etc. Not my piece of cake, or a cookie
I much prefer to have constant connection with the reality like on shrooms. Nutmeg is a good example that sometimes things that are illegal are actually better than trying to get high of some weird stuff that's readily available
I think we kinda drifted away from the original discussion, sorry vaper1960 
how you getting on man? Day 4 over for me, no cigarette, there were a few critical moments though, especially after a fight with the girlfriend...
how you getting on man? Day 4 over for me, no cigarette, there were a few critical moments though, especially after a fight with the girlfriend...- Status
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