Well, if there was an award, you would be the winner!! But to maintain decorum, you can only think those thoughts and not write them down....LOLJust couldn't resist any more
R91 Clone w/ SS wick - great success.
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lol. I temper the wick a bit after bending it into the rough shape I want, so it pretty much stays that way without doing anything funny.
I'll get the nerve up to try kayfun mesh one of these days. So many things to try and so little time.....
Thanks for this guide, really interesting!
Would be good to see a picture of the steel mesh in the wick channels.
How well does this work with "tension adhesive microcoils"? Can you pull the U shaped SS roll through a microcoil without messing it up?
Probably my kayfun wick holes are too thin though. I'm wondering why it doesn't flood if the wick (whatever wick) isn't actually blocking the wick holes. But I heard that you shouldn't block wick holes a few times now, so I'm confused.
Hope this works with the Fogger V4. Looks like it has big enough wick holes for this on the pictures.
+1 for Star Control reference
Would be good to see a picture of the steel mesh in the wick channels.
How well does this work with "tension adhesive microcoils"? Can you pull the U shaped SS roll through a microcoil without messing it up?
Probably my kayfun wick holes are too thin though. I'm wondering why it doesn't flood if the wick (whatever wick) isn't actually blocking the wick holes. But I heard that you shouldn't block wick holes a few times now, so I'm confused.
Hope this works with the Fogger V4. Looks like it has big enough wick holes for this on the pictures.
+1 for Star Control reference
+1 for Star Control reference
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I personally don't put the mesh in the channels. Just on top of them similar to cotton.
Posted earlier that my unit is some unique clone with MASSIVE channels unlike just about every other one out there. No idea why, but I really like it this way for the mesh. That said, even if the channels are "blocked" it does not interfere with juice flowing as needed one bit.
Micros, I don't see why not, though you'd want to shape it accordingly into a very mild U-shape like the coil. Or just kink the coil into a squared U-shape since I don't think it makes much of a difference. Now, the grade of fibers does and 500 is the way to go.
I wondering about the coils as well. Are you passing the mesh through the coil then bending it to shape or wrapping the coil on the already bent mesh? (Does that make sense??? LOL Felt like I was getting tongue tied when I read that last sentence.)
I wrapped the coils then bent the mesh. This is also where having a rigid core-thingy in your wick comes in handy. You can bend it where you want and not have it bend where you don't.
We are talking about some fine, precise work here. I hope my fingers will be able to do what my brain asks of them....lol. I was looking at the base of my Russian sizing up the job and it hit me about how little space I was dealing with. I'll give it the old college try though -- that is when I do try....
I bend the mesh; I make the coil; install the coil; get mesh through the coil; adjust.
I'm not trying to beat a dead horse, but just want to make sure I'm understanding things.... you are passing the pre-bent mesh through a pre-made coil and the coil maintains its "integrity"? Am I summing up correctly? I'm still trying to visualize getting that bent mesh through a pre-made coil. No wonder I did lousy in geometry....lol
I do adjust the coil according to the mesh, it's just something you have to do. If you're gonna go for that smooth U shape, then the coil adjusts to the wick shape vs the standard vice-versa. I use 30g, so it shapes well unlike 28 or lower.
Grand point is that there's really no right way or wrong way to do this build. IF you use enough 500 mesh and you iron-out all the hot spots, it will work just fine.
Now, what still somewhat baffles me is watching cotton prep in some videos with heavy VG juice and how sloooooowly it settles in vs how quickly it evaporates out. I still have no idea how that cotton can accommodate heavy VG juice flow in those super-hot setups....
Grand point is that there's really no right way or wrong way to do this build. IF you use enough 500 mesh and you iron-out all the hot spots, it will work just fine.
Now, what still somewhat baffles me is watching cotton prep in some videos with heavy VG juice and how sloooooowly it settles in vs how quickly it evaporates out. I still have no idea how that cotton can accommodate heavy VG juice flow in those super-hot setups....
OK... I'm gonna consider this a "free form" project when I do it...lol That way I won't feel that I'm doing anything wrong.....
Exactly. Plus don't treat it like, any vaper can do it. We all know that mesh itself is an advanced type of wick, and trying to cram it into something like a Kayfun is an even more advanced setup. My original goal was to present that it can be done and that it works very well, the exact execution depends heavily on what kind of coils you like, what kind of wire gauge, etc etc etc.
Building SS on Fogger V2 could take me anywhere between 20 minutes to 2 hours depending on how cooperative it wanted to be, just as an example.
Building SS on Fogger V2 could take me anywhere between 20 minutes to 2 hours depending on how cooperative it wanted to be, just as an example.
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Build was good, but I went back to the dark side...
That is the genesis side. I filled my Pyrex RSST back up the other day and forgot all about all that work I put in to the Russian. I think I'm just a genesis guy at heart unfortunately because I really do think the money was well spent on that darn Russian 91%, I just can't get as pleasurable of a vape out of it as I can my RSST. Thinking about purchasing a Z atty pro to finalize my Genesis commitment.
My buddy has one and is contemplating the trade I offered him, my Russian 91% + Original RSST for his Zen atty pro.
Hope he says yes!
That is the genesis side. I filled my Pyrex RSST back up the other day and forgot all about all that work I put in to the Russian. I think I'm just a genesis guy at heart unfortunately because I really do think the money was well spent on that darn Russian 91%, I just can't get as pleasurable of a vape out of it as I can my RSST. Thinking about purchasing a Z atty pro to finalize my Genesis commitment.
My buddy has one and is contemplating the trade I offered him, my Russian 91% + Original RSST for his Zen atty pro.
Hope he says yes!
RSST was enjoyable for all its worth, but that condensation mess and far worse airflow (stock) steered me away. Plus I'm on my feet and out of home enough where a solid tank ends up more reliable than a genny.
I use both gennies and Kayfuns. I don't take the gennies out much now that I have Kayfuns due to leaking and not traveling well. Several wet pockets convinced me that gennies don't do well bouncing around. At home, the gennies still get a good work out.
Haha I seem to have the opposite experience. My Russian has always either had an inconsistent vape, dry hits, or leakage. Not to mention the fact that I personally enjoy the flavor delivered from a genesis. Somehow my RSST has never leaked, and when it does, its only a drop because of condensation. Seems like the microcoil pumps out so much heat that everything is vaporized without the splatter that I think is more common with lower ohm, non microcoil builds. Its also my most reliable vape. I'm pretty dang conscious about how my wick is positioned when sitting or laying it on its side. As long as its up, it hasn't leaked. When I set it down, its usually vertical though. When I'm driving, it lays horizontal (more or less) in my passenger seat, again, wick and air hole facing up. I always have it aligned exactly away from the button so I can just do it by feel.
Great minds don't have to think alike I suppose? I'm definitely glad you guys are enjoying your kayfun style attys though, I tried so so hard to love them
Great minds don't have to think alike I suppose? I'm definitely glad you guys are enjoying your kayfun style attys though, I tried so so hard to love them
I'm frankly mostly enjoying em because not so long ago, somewhat of an ideal design for me was Fogger V2/3, but it gave me so much grief on average it's just too much. My R91 clone has been next to perfect, but with Fogger V4 out I'll really have to see whenever I manage to get one. Also,
Really no rocket science here.
Really no rocket science here.
Man, I am so dense ..... I was looking at your top pic and thinking "how does SkvLTD have so much room in his evap. chamber?" -- then I realized I was looking at the tank rings and the evap chamber was not in place. Second pic then made much more sense to me.... Maybe I should go lay down and get up again.... maybe things would make sense.....
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