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[blondeambition3]

My cause is with Christ and for Christ. We are all members of one body ('the' body of Christ), regardless of what part of the body that is.... eyes, arms, legs or what have you.. we are all needed and we are all necessary. We should stand fast in our love for one another in these last days as this is the only way others outside our cause know we are Christ's followers. We are all light and salt (salt cleanses & refines)... in a dark and dying World ... A world and peoples that don't want to be transformed or renewed to the image or mind of Christ, but only wants to have their ears tickled with what confirms them, (what they feel or believe is appropriate) regardless what the word of God says. (Many question the Word of God is valid). Well, we're here to lead them to repentance in Christ so they can 'see' that it (the word of God) is valid. I'll be tried many times in the court of public opinion and I'll ALWAYS be found in contempt of court. That's OK, for it is better that I'm tried by God and found obedient. The Lord has shown me that not ALL are open to the Gospel, it's only open to those that will receive it, so I'll preach it in Love to my detriment and loss, for outside of Christ there is nothing worth knowing or worth having. We are living in perilous times and sometimes I feel like John the Baptist in the wilderness crying 'Repent' to a World that only wants to hear 'Blessings'. Only those 'saved by Christ's grace' are equipped for God's blessings... the rest are under the curse of Sin and death. I feel led to preach the 'good news' of the Gospel to those who will receive it... and repentance to those who are 'open' to receive it. To the rest I will make them aware that the God of grace is also the God of righteousness and judgement, whom I believe (based on the Bible) is about to execute righteousness and judgement upon the World soon... whether it be a day, a week, a year, hundred years or a thousands years.. all of you are right, no one knows the exact hour He's going to return, but any of us would be less than unwise to think (based on the current World conditions) that He could not come at any time during these present (perilous) times... which is all the more reason we should all be working together saving the lost for the Kingdom. So whether you be 'for' me or against me I am 'for' all of you that labor in this same body working diligently towards His most excellent prize, which is my calling and what I'm all about. Sometimes I'll make some of you wince (not my intention), sometimes I'll make some of you smile (I hope).. but I hope I'm considered worthy to be a part of this glorious body and struggle with all of you! I love you all and will continue to post as the Lord leads.. but.. more importantly... 'when' the Lord leads.

 

[LisaLisa]

I've had something to say for the last few days, but I went back and forth on whether or not I should say it because it probably will not be well received, but I can't keep quiet about it, so I'm going to say it anyway so atleast my conscience will be clear.

To those that say that we should not discuss end times prophecy, and related topics, I say this: "what scripture and verse is that?"

To those who say that they are embarrassed by it, I say this: "are you more concerned about what the world thinks, then what God thinks?"

To those who say that we look like a bunch of crazy tin foil hat people, so we should keep quiet on certain subjects, I say: "They thought Jesus and His disciples were nuts too".

If these topics make you feel uncomfortable, there is something wrong with your own faith because a large part of the bible is about prophecy and the end times, the very times we are living in now. Do you want to sweep that under the rug and hide it? If so, you are sweeping Jesus and His coming judgment, and everything that leads up to that day under the rug too. Who gave you the authority to do that?

It's a fact that very interesting and unusual things are happening in the world right now. It's on the news, it's FACTS! People are searching and asking questions, they want to know why these things are happening and what does it mean. They are looking, wondering, seeking, questioning. This is a FACT also! People are searching for answers to these questions!

If you're afraid to discuss these things, and provide answers to people's questions for fear that they might think you're nuts, or you're afraid that you might be wrong, then you're a coward! Where is your faith? Where is your zeal? Where is your courage to honestly look at things and help people find the answers to these very real events and very real questions? Don't you feel the urgency??? This is not a game or a popularity contest!

Make no mistake about it, if you're not willing to deal with the tough questions, others will. Satan is leading them straight to the new agers who are happy to answer these questions with their satanic teachings, teachings that lead people away from salvation!

If someone calls me a lunatic, who cares! If someone thinks I"m nuts, who cares! If someone is embarrassed by what I say, who cares! If I make someone feel uncomfortable because I warn people about UFO's and demons, who cares! I ONLY care about what God thinks, not people because my faith is in HIM and only Him and I answer directly to HIM.

If you guys just want to talk about things that make you feel all warm and fuzzy inside, and are afraid to speak out about serious things that are coming now and down the road, then I say that's a big problem. Not a problem for me, but a problem for you.

Satan and the demons are picking up their intensity, and the world knows it and sees it. I'm not going to pretend that it's not happening because I'm afraid of looking like a nut. I welcome looking like a nut if that helps bring even one person to salvation. I don't care what the world thinks, I"m not part of this world!

So, that's what was on my mind, and I needed to say it. I'm sure this will make some feel uncomfortable, or whatever, but it's the truth .

I know these sorts of posts aren't welcome here anymore, and I can respect that as you guys have made it known and are deleting threads and sweeping it under the rug to hide it, so I won't continue here as I see that it's not wanted or appreciated. But, let it be known that I will continue elsewhere, and I will continue to help others figure out what they see happening in this world and how it ties into God's Word and His plan for the world and His faithful people. God's people are not afraid, not ashamed, not deterred, don't back down, and keep on going despite efforts to stop them. I"m one of those people, are you?

 

[blondeambition3]

Satan and the demons are picking up their intensity, and the world knows it and sees it. I'm not going to pretend that it's not happening because I'm afraid of looking like a nut. I welcome looking like a nut if that helps bring even one person to salvation. I don't care what the world thinks, I"m not part of this world! God's people are not afraid, not ashamed, not deterred, don't back down, and keep on going despite efforts to stop them. I"m one of those people, are you?

I will stand with you for the cause of Christ at all costs and to my own peril if need be ....

I stand with you all regardless of what part of the body you find yourself aligned. ♥

 

[closetsmokr]

I propose that when one has a message to get out, one must make the message accessible to all. In order to do so, the words that support the message must be digestible and pallatable to those who are being addressed. There are many, many ways to accomplish that goal. If one doesn't attempt to reach the masses in a manner that will not turn them away, then hasn't the message been lost, and the goal missed?

I don't think anyone here has suggested that topics be avoided. It's all in how the message is written. Choosing words carefully and knowing the audience is not cowardice, it is good form. And, it's more effective. We may not like having to filter ourselves, but if we want people to listen to or read a message, take it seriously, and respect the author, the filter must be on. It's a part of being a member of any group or society.

Gentle words, quiet words, are after all the most powerful words. They are more convincing, more compelling, more prevailing. -W. Gladden

 

[angelique510]

I propose that when one has a message to get out, one must make the message accessible to all. In order to do so, the words that support the message must be digestible and pallatable to those who are being addressed. There are many, many ways to accomplish that goal. If one doesn't attempt to reach the masses in a manner that will not turn them away, then hasn't the message been lost, and the goal missed?

I don't think anyone here has suggested that topics be avoided. It's all in how the message is written. Choosing words carefully and knowing the audience is not cowardice, it is good form. And, it's more effective. We may not like having to filter ourselves, but if we want people to listen to or read a message, take it seriously, and respect the author, the filter must be on. It's a part of being a member of any group or society.

Gentle words, quiet words, are after all the most powerful words. They are more convincing, more compelling, more prevailing. -W. Gladden

Thank you, closetsmokr. You summed that up perfectly. It is not about censorship, because this topic must be discussed. It is about knowing your audience and tact. I don't shy away from discussing any topic. But the more important the subject, the more careful you have to be in how you talk about it.

Let us, for illustration purposes, use the often touchy subject of sex. It is often necessary and good to discuss it with your husband, your children, your best girlfriend, your doctor, and even the general public. What if you spoke to your husband about a sexual topic in the same manner and with the same words as you would use with your children? What if you spoke to your young child as if he were your doctor, or to the public as if they were your best girlfriend? Imagine those conversations for a moment. Imagine the reaction of the audience. The entire point of what you were trying to say would be lost because they would be so shocked by, or just plain not understand, your delivery. Your husband would be insulted, your child would be scared or grossed out, and the public would think you crude.

I realize that is a colorful illustration, but I think it serves well to illustrate my point. Those imaginary conversations were either offensive or comical. They were anything but productive. Which is the point I am trying to convey. It has nothing to do with the subject of End Times. But End Times was not the subject of my OP. The subject of my post was being conscientious of how we are talking about certain subjects or else the message will be lost in the reaction to the delivery.

Be well,
~A

 

[blondeambition3]

I propose that when one has a message to get out, one must make the message accessible to all. In order to do so, the words that support the message must be digestible and pallatable to those who are being addressed. There are many, many ways to accomplish that goal. If one doesn't attempt to reach the masses in a manner that will not turn them away, then hasn't the message been lost, and the goal missed?

blondeambition3 Again, I personally will not be 'conformed' to the political correctness of 'this' World, but to Christ only. There is only one path to Heaven.. this is politically incorrect and socially 'indigestible' to many people... however, I will not dilute the Gospel to appease those who offend easily. I do not witness the Gospel of (insert any 'new age' entity here) but the Gospel of Christ. Scipture clearly states; “They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one. Their throat is an open sepulcher; with their tongues they have used deceit; the poison of asps in under their lips: Whose mouth is full of cursing and bitterness: Their feet are swift to shed blood: Destruction and misery are in their ways: And the way of peace have they not known: There is no fear of God before their eyes.”

closetsmokr I don't think anyone here has suggested that topics be avoided. It's all in how the message is written. Choosing words carefully and knowing the audience is not cowardice, it is good form. And, it's more effective. We may not like having to filter ourselves, but if we want people to listen to or read a message, take it seriously, and respect the author, the filter must be on. It's a part of being a member of any group or society.

blondeambition3 Again, no filters are 'on' when one is led by the 'Holy Spirit' of Christ... People will think what they will. How can any of us 'Judge' what method by the Brethren works for all? As I stated previously, from scripture... we're not all eyes or arms or legs in the body of Christ, if we were then none of us would be necessary.

closetsmokr Gentle words, quiet words, are after all the most powerful words. They are more convincing, more compelling, more prevailing. -W. Gladden

blondeambition3 Gentle and quiet words turn away anger and strife is effective in non-salvation kind of instances... the message of Repentance to a sinful and lost World will never be welcomed, but is necessary, needed and commanded. If all we do is speak 'baby food' Gospel then it's no wonder God says to the latter day lukewarm Church he'd rather vomit us out of His mouth than allow us to continue 'lukewarm' in our Faith.

You are welcome to quote W. Gladden, but I prefer to quote Christ and scripture Scripture.

 

[blondeambition3]

Thank you, closetsmokr. You summed that up perfectly. It is not about censorship, because this topic must be discussed. It is about knowing your audience and tact. I don't shy away from discussing any topic. But the more important the subject, the more careful you have to be in how you talk about it.

Let us, for illustration purposes, use the often touchy subject of sex. It is often necessary and good to discuss it with your husband, your children, your best girlfriend, your doctor, and even the general public. What if you spoke to your husband about a sexual topic in the same manner and with the same words as you would use with your children? What if you spoke to your young child as if he were your doctor, or to the public as if they were your best girlfriend? Imagine those conversations for a moment. Imagine the reaction of the audience. The entire point of what you were trying to say would be lost because they would be so shocked by, or just plain not understand, your delivery. Your husband would be insulted, your child would be scared or grossed out, and the public would think you crude.

I realize that is a colorful illustration. It has nothing to do with the subject of End Times. But End Times was not the subject of my OP. The subject of my post was being conscientious of how we are talking about certain subjects or else the message will be lost in the reaction to the delivery.

Be well,
~A

With all due respect A, discussing things that the Bible clearly states are 'too shameful' to be discussed in Public (such as Sex) are not the same as discussing 'end time' events. Apples and Oranges. I respect you dearly but believe you are not 'respecting' our positions on this matter at all. You're affirming that your initial reaction to certain posts will be (or are) the reaction of all readers. Can't we all just allow Christ to determine that? Just my humble suggestion.

Now, it's apparent everyone will debate this until the Cows come home.. but I've got work to do.

 

[LisaLisa]

I refuse to water down the scriptures to be politically correct. I refuse to water down the bible so that it does not offend anyone. I refuse to not talk about important subjects in the world today, which are the means satan is using in this world to deceive many many people. I refuse to be afraid to boldly Speak Out about Jesus, This World, Sin, Satan & his demonic forces. I refuse to be censored when it comes to speaking about God in a religious sub forum. I refuse to not speak about end times prophecy and other topics some people find questionable.

Why do I refuse to do these things? Because Jesus commanded me to do them! I don't worry about what words I will say because He gives the words to His people when they need them! You of little faith!!!!!!!

 

[LisaLisa]

you are welcome to quote w. Gladden, but i prefer to quote christ and scripture scripture.

amen!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[closetsmokr]

Did you even take the time to find out who Washington Gladden was? No, he wasn't quoted in or a scriber of the Bible, but I bet he would have had a chance to be if he had lived in those times. Your supposition that a quote is invalid or unworthy because it is not scripture is ridiculous. You are trying to attack me personally because I don't agree with you that a thread titled, "Two Headed Three Eyed Alien Abducts Baby Winged Angel From Its Cloud - Video Proof That You Need to Stock Up On Grain Because Jesus is Mad" is okay to post here. It would invite people to find me less than credible and unworthy of respect. Your way of conducting yourself in front of both Chritians and those who are not is not conducive to a nurturing and inviting way to reach out to others. There is no place in the scriptures that says you must scare and belittle others into believing. No one is censoring anything, but you can get ideas across without always going for a "headline." Give it a try sometime and see. Jesus did not run around like Chicken Little screaming, "The sky is falling," yet he managed to get the important points across.

PS. Yeah, I did just quote Chicken Little!

PPS. Stop being negative toward your fellow CVers, and spread some love and positive messages!

 

[trukinlady]

Yes, I too believe these are the end times. I feel an incredible sense of urgency to tell as many unbelievers as I can to PLEASE DON'T GAMBLE WITH YOUR SOUL!!! Now is the time of salvation, because we are not guaranteed tomorrow!!

2 Corinthians 6:2
For He says “In an acceptable time I have heard you, and in the day of salvation I have helped you.” Behold, now is the accepted time; behold, now is the day of salvation.

It is up to each individual to choose where they want to spend eternity. God gave us each free will to make that choice.

However, I question the veracity and authenticity of certain websites, and their content. I always question the source of such information: Are they Scripturally based? What does the Word of God say about it? Who is posting? Is the OP a Christian? If so, are they a mature Christian grounded in His Word, and strong in the Holy Spirit? Or are they easily led astray by false doctrine? Are they trying to use fear as a means to win souls to Christ? Are they posting their own interpretation of Scripture and stating it as fact? What if their understanding or interpretation is wrong, or Scripturally incorrect? Are they stating sound Biblical facts, or their own opinions? If they are wrong, many people will be led astray!! Perhaps it is deliberately posted as false doctrine or skewed interpretation to lead people astray.


1 John 2:26-27
26 These things I have written to you concerning those who try to deceive you.
27 But the anointing which you have received from Him abides in you, and you do not need that anyone teach you; but as the same anointing teaches you concerning all things, and is true, and is not a lie, and just as it has taught you, you will abide in Him.

1 John 4:1
Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits, whether they are of God; because many false prophets have gone out into the world.

We are to test the spirits to see if things come from our Heavenly Father. If I have any doubt whatsoever about something I may post here, I don't post it.

God's Living Word is NEVER WRONG!!

Lisa, I'm saddened you seem to have taken personally the changes I've made here. That was never my intention. I've seen from many of your posts how much you love the Lord, and how strong your faith is!! But we are not carbon copies of one another. Our Heavenly Father has blessed us each of us with different strengths, gifts, and He has a unique purpose for each one of us to fulfill--to see His Will accomplished in our lives. I'm sorry you feel as if you're no longer welcome here. Nothing could be further from the truth!! If you regret giving me Moderator privileges, I'll step down, and go elsewhere.

In His Love,

 

[blondeambition3]

Did you even take the time to find out who Washington Gladden was? No, he wasn't quoted in or a scriber of the Bible, but I bet he would have had a chance to be if he had lived in those times. Your supposition that a quote is invalid or unworthy because it is not scripture is ridiculous. You are trying to attack me personally because I don't agree with you that a thread titled, "Two Headed Three Eyed Alien Abducts Baby Winged Angel From Its Cloud - Video Proof That You Need to Stock Up On Grain Because Jesus is Mad" is okay to post here. It would invite people to find me less than credible and unworthy of respect. Your way of conducting yourself in front of both Chritians and those who are not is not conducive to a nurturing and inviting way to reach out to others. There is no place in the scriptures that says you must scare and belittle others into believing. No one is censoring anything, but you can get ideas across without always going for a "headline." Give it a try sometime and see. Jesus did not run around like Chicken Little screaming, "The sky is falling," yet he managed to get the important points across.

PS. Yeah, I did just quote Chicken Little!

PPS. Stop being negative toward your fellow CVers, and spread some love and positive messages!

closetsmkr - "Two Headed Three Eyed Alien Abducts Baby Winged Angel From Its Cloud - Video Proof That You Need to Stock Up On Grain Because Jesus is Mad"

I'd be interested to find that post as I don't believe anyone in this Forum has posted anything of the sort.

Scare tactics, which no one is using... (just as love tactics) are ineffective for many. God uses both to fulfill His divine purpose.

I am not being negative toward anyone, I love all of my fellow CV'ers that are in Christ, but I refuse to allow you or anyone else to prevent me from discussing or posting end time events if I feel led by the Holy Spirit of Christ to do. If you perceive disrespect then I suggest you examine your own heart as you seem to think your posts and positions should take precedence over those you disagree with. As for headlines? They aren't mine in many cases, they're the National and/or Local news headlines, and I beg to differ... Headlines work, Christ used them all of the time... such as Then saith Jesus unto him, Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve. - Matthew 4:10

 

[LisaLisa]

Jesus did not run around like Chicken Little screaming, "The sky is falling," yet he managed to get the important points across.


PPS. Stop being negative toward your fellow CVers, and spread some love and positive messages!

Actually, Jesus did run around yelling the equivalent of the sky is falling. He told this whole world was going down, and He told us to watch for it and warn people of the coming destruction. People thought he was nuts, a drunk, and demon possessed, and they killed him for it. But He will be the final judge.

Jesus also said that he came not to bring peace, but a sword. He also wrote letters to the churches in revelation, and warned about not taking things seriously.

PS. This forum is FULL of positive messages and alot of love. Where have you been?

 

[LisaLisa]

If you regret giving me Moderator privileges, I'll step down, and go elsewhere.

Don't be silly.........that's not the case at all.

 

[blondeambition3]

Don't be silly.........that's not the case at all.

We love you T... you're doing a fine job ♥

 

[LisaLisa]

I'd be interested to find that post as I don't believe anyone in this Forum has posted anything of the sort.

Scare tactics, which no one is using... (just as love tactics) are ineffective for many. God uses both to fulfill His divine purpose.

I am not being negative toward anyone, I love all of my fellow CV'ers that are in Christ, but I refuse to allow you or anyone else to prevent me from discussing or posting end time events if I feel led by the Holy Spirit of Christ to do. If you perceive disrespect then I suggest you examine your own heart as you seem to think your posts and positions should take precedence over those you disagree with. As for headlines? They aren't mine in many cases, they're the National and/or Local news headlines, and I beg to differ... Headlines work, Christ used them all of the time... such as Then saith Jesus unto him, Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve. - Matthew 4:10

AMEN! Couldn't have said it better myself!

 

[LisaLisa]

We love you T... you're doing a fine job ♥

Yes she is. I just can't believe I found someone that actually volunteered to do it! LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Jason_in_nc]

Christ was a representation of his Father on Earth.

We are to be representatives of Christ on Earth.

Christ never made the Father, look foolish.

We are not to make Christ look foolish.

When we entertain false claims such as predictions of Christs return, when the Bible itself says that no man knows, we make God look foolish. When we assert, with a CERTAINTY, that x event or x image or x person IS some fulfillment of Biblical prophecy when there is even a SLIGHT chance that such things MIGHT not be... then we set up ourselves, and our lord to look foolish.

It is the difference between saying, "This event IS the fulfillment of end times prophecy!" and saying, "The Bible predicts things like this for the end times... COULD this event be a fulfillment of prophecy?" See the difference?

If we support false teaching, we make God appear foolish and a liar as we represent him. If we claim with certainty things that are not, we also make God appear foolish and a liar.

We should never let our exuberance and love for Christ and his word overshadow our CAUTION for HOW we represent him, spread is word, and demonstrate his love.

Nobody is saying not to proceed ... only to proceed with caution as the subject matter is VERY important.

 

[closetsmokr]

I have tried in a civil way to make my point. But, I find myself expending my energy on that instead of fruitful things. Some people can't be reasoned with because they are always right and their interpretations are always better. So, I'm going about my business.

Love is patient, love is kind. It is not rude, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered. -1 Corinthians

 

[closetsmokr]

Dear TL, you're doing great in my humble opinion!