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I don't think this is helpful to the vaping community. Obviously you have the right to do as you choose, but pleading ignorance after getting caught will only make people look down at vaping instead of looking at it as a great thing. My advice would be always ask permission and accept the answer given. The outside world is unaware of how many lives are changing because of this awesome little device called the e-cig. Educating them is always better than making them mad.

You're entitled to your opinion. If you want to be a "sheeple" that's your choice. I go with what works for me. If nobody is complaining, then I must be doing something right. The couple of times a day I go downstairs to smoke I get a chance to share, but when I want a hit or two at my desk, I just take it, and I actually don't feel it's "bad for the community".
 

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A 30 something mail boy/court runner that wants to move up the corporate basement steps!
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This, how would you like to have his life? I would have a hard time not being bitter. As much as you feel like ripping his head off I wouldn't hold a grudge.
 

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One use is as a device by which a snitch can blow smoke up their own rectum!
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Wow... Talk about missing a joke! Xo)

So just for the fact I don't ask before I vape shouldn't really be cause for concern when society has bigger problems

Any society will ALWAYS have big problems. That doesn't mean the smaller problems shouldn't be addressed as well.
 
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Although I find the tattle-tale, "see something-say something", narc-out-your co-eworkers mentality of this mail-boy to be unprofessional, immature and morally reprehensible, the fact remains that this is one of the hazards of "stealth vaping".

If vapers are going to sneak around, copping clandestine vapes like juvenile delinquents sneaking a Marlboro in the restroom at lunchtime, people are going to perceive it as something that is wrong, illegal, or otherwise against the rules, and when you are caught, there are some people who feel obligated to tattle on you.

Sneaking around for your vape is selfish. It does nothing to educate the public, it does not promote goodwill or positive perceptions with the general public, and it in fact reinforces the propaganda put out by the ANTZ that vaping is dangerous, dubious and somehow wrong.

If you act like a juvenile, you wil be treated like one. If you act like a responsible adult, who is just doing something that is legal, lawful and enjoyable and not being a threat or hazard to anyone, you will be treated accordingly.

Sorry you got ratted out, but really, what did you expect?
 

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I didn't read the whole thread. But I wanted to add something in here. I too believe that he should have gone to you FIRST with his concerns. However in this guys defense (no matter how idiotic the guy is, and he would really have to be) he might have had a real concern for thinking that you were actually smoking something. We had a friend that we were trying to help get and maintain sobriety, and I had caught him once not maintaining. It wasn't anything green nether. But there was no smell... or maybe a slightly sweet odar? Not sure it was a while back. But my point is still the same. He could have been concerned for the well-being of you and other parties around you. I get as ...... as the next vapor when someone coughs rudely and loudly when I am vaping, like I am smoking or something. Because obviously there is no smoke smell. But not all smoke has a smell. He might have been afraid to confront you. But I still maintain that he should have gone to you first. And if he did he most likely would not have reported it.
 

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Although I find the tattle-tale, "see something-say something", narc-out-your co-eworkers mentality of this mail-boy to be unprofessional, immature and morally reprehensible, the fact remains that this is one of the hazards of "stealth vaping".

If vapers are going to sneak around, copping clandestine vapes like juvenile delinquents sneaking a Marlboro in the restroom at lunchtime, people are going to perceive it as something that is wrong, illegal, or otherwise against the rules, and when you are caught, there are some people who feel obligated to tattle on you.

Sneaking around for your vape is selfish. It does nothing to educate the public, it does not promote goodwill or positive perceptions with the general public, and it in fact reinforces the propaganda put out by the ANTZ that vaping is dangerous, dubious and somehow wrong.

If you act like a juvenile, you wil be treated like one. If you act like a responsible adult, who is just doing something that is legal, lawful and enjoyable and not being a threat or hazard to anyone, you will be treated accordingly.

Sorry you got ratted out, but really, what did you expect?

Way to show your ...., buddy. Show me where the OP said henwas sneaking around like a juvenile. I vape in my cube too. That makes me juvenile and selfish ? Where do you get off ?
If I eat in my cube, I do it quietly, and try not to disturb anybody. If I have any bodily functions like a sneeze, cough or heaven forbid, a fart, I try and do it quietly so it doesnt cause undue attention or bother anyone. And it's the same with vaping. And until I get complaints, there's not a thing wrong with it, except judgmental pharisees like you, trying to make someone feel bad for it.
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I didn't read the whole thread. But I wanted to add something in here. I too believe that he should have gone to you FIRST with his concerns. However in this guys defense (no matter how idiotic the guy is, and he would really have to be) he might have had a real concern for thinking that you were actually smoking something. We had a friend that we were trying to help get and maintain sobriety, and I had caught him once not maintaining. It wasn't anything green nether. But there was no smell... or maybe a slightly sweet odar? Not sure it was a while back. But my point is still the same. He could have been concerned for the well-being of you and other parties around you. I get as ...... as the next vapor when someone coughs rudely and loudly when I am vaping, like I am smoking or something. Because obviously there is no smoke smell. But not all smoke has a smell. He might have been afraid to confront you. But I still maintain that he should have gone to you first. And if he did he most likely would not have reported it.

So what you're saying is the guy is a jerk, but you understand why he's a jerk because he's also a coward. I agree.
 

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Man, I don't get you tattle-tell types. So what if a guy is smoking something strange looking you've never seen before? So what if you co-worker is late consistently? So someone offended someone else, so what? Happens all the time. Nobody told you that you'd float through life unoffended, and if they did they were lying. Unless these things directly effect you, why not concern yourself with what's going on in your life?

The world would be a much better place if more people adopted the "to each their own" philosophy. YMMV
 

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Man, I don't get you tattle-tell types. So what if a guy is smoking something strange looking you've never seen before? So what if you co-worker is late consistently? So someone offended someone else, so what? Happens all the time. Nobody told you that you'd float through life unoffended, and if they did they were lying. Unless these things directly effect you, why not concern yourself with what's going on in your life?

The world would be a much better place if more people adopted the "to each their own" philosophy. YMMV

You might be commenting about another post other then mine. But I want to point out that I said he should have confronted op. It is always best to have open and honest communication.

On the other hand, if I know for a fact that a person is endangering or harming another; I believe there is always room to step in, even if that means calling johnny law. Too many woman and children die because of the "look the other way" policy. I will NOT do it. I believe in standing up for peoples rights and freedoms. Which coincidentally I think we should be free to vape everywhere because it harms none.
 
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Exactly what problem do you think needs to be addressed here ?

I think StereoDreamer's well written and thought out post above responds very well to that question. Couldn't have phrased my thoughts that well myself:

Although I find the tattle-tale, "see something-say something", narc-out-your co-eworkers mentality of this mail-boy to be unprofessional, immature and morally reprehensible, the fact remains that this is one of the hazards of "stealth vaping".

If vapers are going to sneak around, copping clandestine vapes like juvenile delinquents sneaking a Marlboro in the restroom at lunchtime, people are going to perceive it as something that is wrong, illegal, or otherwise against the rules, and when you are caught, there are some people who feel obligated to tattle on you.

Sneaking around for your vape is selfish. It does nothing to educate the public, it does not promote goodwill or positive perceptions with the general public, and it in fact reinforces the propaganda put out by the ANTZ that vaping is dangerous, dubious and somehow wrong.

If you act like a juvenile, you wil be treated like one. If you act like a responsible adult, who is just doing something that is legal, lawful and enjoyable and not being a threat or hazard to anyone, you will be treated accordingly.

Sorry you got ratted out, but really, what did you expect?
 

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As far as that little rat fink, the boss should not have revealed the worm's name. That's
not a very smart manager.

Maybe she thinks as highly of him the op and wants to see him get his .... kicked.... Just a thought.

I have two jobs. I work construction with my family because they make me (lol) when I'm not doing my other job. I work for a glass company also. Every window you see on the freedom tower above the thirteenth floor, Yup, I made that. We employ 1200 - 1800 people depending on the time of the year. Do you have any idea how many people see me vaping and tell my superiors that I'm smoking something illegal or question what I'm doing? That's 12 - 1800 times that I or my superiors get to explain my twist/tank setup that I take to work. They get just as sick of explaining it as I do. I also get to explain my e-cig at job sites to whole other sets of people with preconceived notions... I envy your one vape hater. I deal with multiple a day so I've grown accustom to it.

But in reality I would rather explain it than try to hide it. If you try to hide it then the automation assumption, with not just a few but 100% of people you encounter that do not understand it, will be that you are doing something wrong. My suggestion is- Follow your boss's wishes.... But leave it out when your not using it. Plop that mo-fo right on top of your desk like a flower arrangement or family pictures. It'll invite people to ask questions and peak their curiosity.
 

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A 30 something mail boy/court runner that wants to move up the corporate basement steps!
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This, how would you like to have his life? I would have a hard time not being bitter. As much as you feel like ripping his head off I wouldn't hold a grudge.

First off, I'm not da OP.
Second, do ya need to up your nic level?
Third, I've been in worse situations than da rat. But, after moving' up da 'ranks' without ratting on fellow workers (ummm, I guess that would be associates now a days) and becoming a team leader (aka boss) in two careers, my grudges just so happened to influence my decisions. Day-um, kinda tuff being human and having a long and ethical memory!
Fourth, are you a government/union worker?


Wow... Talk about missing a joke! Xo)

Ummm... maybe you don't fully understand American humor. Did you miss my LMAO emoticon? I replied to a very humorous post. Sorry ya missed my intent! I'll get over it...
 
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Although I find the tattle-tale, "see something-say something", narc-out-your co-eworkers mentality of this mail-boy to be unprofessional, immature and morally reprehensible, the fact remains that this is one of the hazards of "stealth vaping".

If vapers are going to sneak around, copping clandestine vapes like juvenile delinquents sneaking a Marlboro in the restroom at lunchtime, people are going to perceive it as something that is wrong, illegal, or otherwise against the rules, and when you are caught, there are some people who feel obligated to tattle on you.

Sneaking around for your vape is selfish. It does nothing to educate the public, it does not promote goodwill or positive perceptions with the general public, and it in fact reinforces the propaganda put out by the ANTZ that vaping is dangerous, dubious and somehow wrong.

If you act like a juvenile, you wil be treated like one. If you act like a responsible adult, who is just doing something that is legal, lawful and enjoyable and not being a threat or hazard to anyone, you will be treated accordingly.

Sorry you got ratted out, but really, what did you expect?

Not to get ratted out? Stealth vaping is not selfish, or childish, or any of those other close-minded names you dropped because you feel so strongly about your opinion. It's an art, practiced by artists, at their discretion. It's not always convenient to educate. Sometimes people just want to be left the F alone. You want to go shout how great vaping is on top of a mountain? GREAT on you! I already know, so it's all good in my world. ;)

You might be commenting about another post other then mine. But I want to point out that I said he should have confronted op. It is always best to have open and honest communication.

On the other hand, if I know for a fact that a person is endangering or harming another; I believe there is always room to step in, even if that means calling johnny law. Too many woman and children die because of the "look the other way" policy. I will NOT do it. I believe in standing up for peoples rights and freedoms. Which coincidentally I think we should be free to vape everywhere because it harms none.

I wasn't talking about you - but now that you mention it, I might of been? I don't think anyone disagrees if someone is in danger then it's a problem that needs resolved - but I don't think there was anyone in danger here.
 
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