Rant: Co-worker ratting me out

[mrelwood]

I held the vapour in for 10-15 seconds and breathed out downwards.

Nicely done! I'm all for doing this discreetly like you did. I'm sure you didn't disturb or annoy anyone. Atleast by vaping, that is... ;o)

Do you think they can ban or complain about public vaping that does not produce vapour?

That's a tough one, I have no idea. Something tells me they could add a part about even "operating a personal vaporisator device". But it is left to be seen. A law like "vaping is allowed, unless it disturbs or distracts someone in near vicinity in a negative way" would never work, as it leaves the judgement out to individual situations. That could be interpret in so many ways and would only cause problems.

 

[bivie]

I work in a production room and run a machine. I have to change out the machine four
or five times an hour with new supplies. While I do that, I put a 65 or 78 mm in my
mouth and savor it.

My boss is a smoker. We used to take smoke breaks together. Now we don't cuz I
vape in the production room. My production has increased for each hour. There are
usually other people in that room, and nobody complains. Once in a while they will
comment on how its smells ... yuh know, like a cigar, like cocoa, like pee, whatever.

So, my boss is cool with it. It's just that he shakes his head and grins at me and
tells me I'm silly. He approves of it, but he doesn't get it. He doesn't realize it's
not silly, but very serious. Just because I've turned it into a hobby doesn't make
it silly.

On the other hand, maybe he would stop saying that if I stopped showing up with
two-foot long mods and half-gallon tanks

He's one of these: "You just traded one habit for another."

And I'm like:

 

[DR. Schwartz]

I have to agree with post #38. We know it is not harmful to others but it is our addiction and if others don't like it we have to respect that. It sucks but it is reality.

It is also about respect for co-workers. If a co-worker asks me not to do something, unless it is outrageous, I will abide by their wishes, this is also part of being an adult. I only mention the adult part because you accused your mail man of being a 2 year old. Did the mail man handle the situation appropriately? I don't think he did. Be the bigger man and don't throw a fit about it.

 

[flintlock62]

I have to agree with post #38. We know it is not harmful to others but it is our addiction and if others don't like it we have to respect that. It sucks but it is reality.

It is also about respect for co-workers. If a co-worker asks me not to do something, unless it is outrageous, I will abide by their wishes, this is also part of being an adult. I only mention the adult part because you accused your mail man of being a 2 year old. Did the mail man handle the situation appropriately? I don't think he did. Be the bigger man and don't throw a fit about it.

I also agree with respecting others. Maybe if the OP had spoke to the boss first, BEFORE vaping at work, things could have turned out differently. One should consider educating people on what vaping is, and that there is no proven 2nd hand problems associated with it. Still, ratting on another employ shows lack of backbone.

 

[Racehorse]

Who does that? Who goes out and tells on your like you are in the 2nd grade??

Um, after living in metropolitan areas, and suburbia for 50 years, I'm now out on 10 acres where I have to drive to my nearest neighbor. LOL

I guess my answer to that would be: most people.

I got tired of being told that my hedges were 3 inches too tall, my dog was too close to (MY OWN) fence, and literally having neighbors know my schedule or if one of my windows was slightly open while I was away on vacation. People seem damn nosey if you ask me.

 

[the_vape_nerd]

As the OP, I just wanted to thank all of those who commented here.

As for you guys who said I should be respectful etc. I have 5 other people in this area. They all know about it and don't care much. 2 of them have said hey thats great you dont smoke anymore.

This guy is like an internal mail boy. He comes to my area for about 20 seconds each day to deliver the mail. Otherwise we have no contact. I did often exchange friendly conversation with him from time to time. I don't really get it.

 

[tnt56]

you just gotta mark it up to electronic cigarette ignorance. People don't understand it so they make a decision about it before they know the facts. The number one problem with e-cigs is the perception issue. It looks like smoke so it MUST be as bad as smoke.
When i'm at work, i vape with the smokers. Outside. It's better to just roll with the punches until inevitably, the word and the knowledge gets out there...

Same thing happens to me all the time also. Your not in the boat alone. I can't wait till the weather is cold enough to see your breath. " LOOK A VAPOR". I even went as far as to ask if that ment I couldn't use my nebulizer inside anymore.

 

[JessyDrastic]

Once in a while they will
comment on how its smells ... yuh know, like a cigar, like cocoa, like pee, whatever.

i thought i was the only one who noticed that!

 

[bivie]

i thought i was the only one who noticed that!

Not by a long shot. Lotsa peops in this forum have had friends/family tell them it
smells like pee. It's ironic. The vape smells like pee, and now my pee smells like
vape

 

[div]

how funny...but today the one an only time I vaped in the bathroom before a meeting, maybe I didn't hold it long enough and someone mentioned they smell 'rust', lol...told them it must be the pipes.

i thought i was the only one who noticed that!

 

[Big Mac]

Howdy folks,
I have come back to this thread numerous times today debating on posting or not. Although a lot of folks (based on the posts here) are probably not gonna like my answer.

I'm 57, retired, and have been a manager of one sort or another most of my working life.

It would have been nice if the mailboy would have confronted you directly, but it's not in the least bit surprising that he went directly to the manager, and berating him because he did is.....how should I put this....as immature as him going to the manager.

For him, the right thing to do would have been to speak to you directly (but 4 outta 5 times it ain't gonna happen). The right thing for you to have done would have been to go to your manager before any of this happened. Go prepared, provide the information about what you want to do, why it is not hazardous to anyone around you, show you have spoken to those around your seating area and they don't mind, and that your productivity will increase due to less time spent away from your desk having a smoke/vape. The old saying "it's easier to say you're sorry than to ask permission", is a wonderful saying, but in our case it's more harmful than good.

Sneaking around, as in some of the other posts here (not the OP's), just screams that you are doing something wrong, doing something that will harm others or doing something illegal. Why would you want to stigmatize vaping with that kinda tag? It's gonna take awhile before vaper's and vaping are accepted as being relatively harmless....if ever. We're bucking a system, one that screams that we are different and we are.....weak, evil, ignorant, killers, wrong, etc, etc. Take your pick of which one of those you've heard in the past...there's an endless list out there of nasty pronouns to describe us. Sneaking around ain't changing any of that...and getting caught sneaking around only reinforces those opinions.

I vape constantly, all day, all of my waking hours. I presently do not vape in the same places I was not allowed to smoke. I do, however, seek out a manager, owner, or person in charge to ask if I can vape. Most recently, a small, non franchise coffee shop has given me permission to vape in their shop, as long as others are not turned off by it. So far, no complaints, just questions. Now I go there instead of Starbucks. One Walmart manager has said it's ok to vape while I'm in Walmart, unless someone complains, so I vape in Walmart, I just do it in an empty isle, not around anyone. Home Depot has said no freakin way, don't vape in MY STORE.

Hiding and sneaking wont solve our problems, asking wont solve all of them, but it maybe a start.

Big Mac

 

[Jimblob]

Howdy folks,
I have come back to this thread numerous times today debating on posting or not. Although a lot of folks (based on the posts here) are probably not gonna like my answer.

I'm 57, retired, and have been a manager of one sort or another most of my working life.

It would have been nice if the mailboy would have confronted you directly, but it's not in the least bit surprising that he went directly to the manager, and berating him because he did is.....how should I put this....as immature as him going to the manager.

For him, the right thing to do would have been to speak to you directly (but 4 outta 5 times it ain't gonna happen). The right thing for you to have done would have been to go to your manager before any of this happened. Go prepared, provide the information about what you want to do, why it is not hazardous to anyone around you, show you have spoken to those around your seating area and they don't mind, and that your productivity will increase due to less time spent away from your desk having a smoke/vape. The old saying "it's easier to say you're sorry than to ask permission", is a wonderful saying, but in our case it's more harmful than good.

Sneaking around, as in some of the other posts here (not the OP's), just screams that you are doing something wrong, doing something that will harm others or doing something illegal. Why would you want to stigmatize vaping with that kinda tag? It's gonna take awhile before vaper's and vaping are accepted as being relatively harmless....if ever. We're bucking a system, one that screams that we are different and we are.....weak, evil, ignorant, killers, wrong, etc, etc. Take your pick of which one of those you've heard in the past...there's an endless list out there of nasty pronouns to describe us. Sneaking around ain't changing any of that...and getting caught sneaking around only reinforces those opinions.

I vape constantly, all day, all of my waking hours. I presently do not vape in the same places I was not allowed to smoke. I do, however, seek out a manager, owner, or person in charge to ask if I can vape. Most recently, a small, non franchise coffee shop has given me permission to vape in their shop, as long as others are not turned off by it. So far, no complaints, just questions. Now I go there instead of Starbucks. One Walmart manager has said it's ok to vape while I'm in Walmart, unless someone complains, so I vape in Walmart, I just do it in an empty isle, not around anyone. Home Depot has said no freakin way, don't vape in MY STORE.

Hiding and sneaking wont solve our problems, asking wont solve all of them, but it maybe a start.

Big Mac

I didn't know McDonalds employee's could retire so early, good for you

 

[Ray D]

Everyone at my work place knows I quit smoking and took up vaping. 99% of them are very supportive and even curious. My boss has told me he doesn't mind at all if I vape inside our lab (provided I don't do it around the more sensitive equipment - reasonable).

But I don't. I go outside just like when I smoked.

Why? A few reasons actually. My personal reasons are that it helps me regulate my usage a bit and everyone needs a quick 5 minutes break / change of scenery now and then (I don't abuse it). The other reason? I don't want to give anyone an excuse. Humans can be petty, and I'm not about to give someone ammunition because they think I'm somehow gaming the system. That's not my objective.

Besides, doing it outside exposes the other smokers to it. I already converted one.

 

[JKVaper]

I work in a small business which has only 5 employees. By the third day from which I began vaping I spoke to the business owner about my vaping with a short education of it by letting her know what it was all about. She was belated at my attempt to quit smoking and happy that I would no longer be going out back to have a smoke and come back into the building with the stench that followed. 4 of 5 of us at the time were all smokers, and after coming in from a smoke we had to spray down using Lysol and use mouthwash as we all occasionally worked with customers. The owner understandably did not want us to be offending customers with the smell. Thus the owner of the business had allowed me to vape while in the store at the station where I normally do my work as long as it's not in plain view of the customers. But this meant vaping around my co-workers. One month later another co-worker became interested in vaping and is now a full convert to vaping. Three months into it and all of us workers but one vape only while at work, with the last one still going back and forth between vaping and smoking. Four months later there are 4 employees - now 3 full time vapers, and one part time while working. On a couple occasions business owner walks into the room where I work and compliments how good it smells in there .

I am glad as to how I first presented this to the business owner without wasting any time in doing so, or hiding it to begin with. Hopefully this will help with anyone who considers vaping in the workplace and who has a supervisor / owner who is understanding with the concept of it.

 

[daddytwigs]

This is what I use at work.it attracts less attention then a plume of vapor

 

[Butters78]

I inhale then inhale again and hold it for a little bit.. No vapor at all comes out on the exhale.

 

[fwellers]

Personally, having been on the receiving end of the vile actions of corporate rats, I have no problems saying that they are disgusting human beings. No excuse for it. If they don't confront you first for whatever actions they think they've witnessed, but instead go right to management or HR with their bs, they are rat finks and deserve to be spat on!
Sorry if you think that's immature Mac, just keeping it real.

 

[MaxUT]

For the last 20 years I've had my own office with a nice solid door I could shut, so for the last 3 years I've vaped to my heart's content whenever there were no visitors. However...

In January my department's new office facility is scheduled to be completed and I have to move into an open office without even any cubes, just short dividers between desks arranged in groups of four.

I plan on making a vape muffler: a Big Gulp cup stuffed with discs of furnace filter media that I can blow my exhaust into through a straw.

Hope it works!

 

[varitablevoltage]

For me vape always smells like the flavor I'm vaping. Even tobacco flavor smells more like sweet something than tobacco. The vapor itself doesn't hang in the air for long periods. I think if you explain to the boss ahead of time what you are doing there should be no issue. If I can use a humidifier at work I should be able to vape. In fact the company's health plan should have incentives for those who take up vaping over continued smoking. Anyways my 2cents.

 

[SissySpike]

Unfortunately especially in your environment HR has taken away mens cahonies! What ever happened to I will not say anything behind your back that I would not say to your face. I like the construction trade We still confront one another even a fist fight isn't unheard of. We don't have to .....foot around hurting someones feelings. If someone on my crew would of rated another crew member out Id of taken him to the guys face and told the other guy this guy is telling on you and let the situation resolve its self! I have no respect for back stabbing pathetic cowards its a shame people do not have integrity these days!!!!!