RBAs vs new RDAs

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Papa_Lazarou

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which atty ya run on your REO? Wonder if a Magma can be drilled to support bottom feeding? but the REO on the site seem to have a nice compact rda attached and that makes sense as opposed to a 22mm atty..

The Reo can take any RDA that's modded to be bottom feeding. This is usually accomplished by drilling a hole just off to the side of the 510 connection center pin up into the chamber. All of the RDA's available on the Reo site are modded in this way - atomic, IGO, triangle, and others are all available. They get rebranded as Reomizers (RM2/3/4/5 etc.).

Typically, small chamber RDA's are featured on the site due, in part, to the manufacturer's preference and, in part, to the catch cup design of the device. Lately, though, there has been a push towards the available low profile (LP) Reo's that have a shallower catch cup which allows for any RDA to fit.

Many people use non-Reosmods RDA's that are bottom feed modded and there's no reason a Magma couldn't be used (that I know of).

Myself, I run a small chamber RM3 dual coil (.5 Ohm, 28 gauge) for all day vaping and a larger RM4 dual (.4 Ohm) for fogging up the room at night. Really, I consider it dripping, not a tank system and it's all good.
 

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Ah ... but that was my point! The Magma now has a "well" to "fill", albeit small, and wick from that but you are no longer simply dripping and that is what got me thinking about this. If they hadn't added that bit in it I would have kept on thinking about it that same way; you drip / vape some / drip more. But that addition and how it looked I thought "Shoot they could add a tank on it with a channel in there and they would be the same."

Then what if they added a squeeze bottle somewhere to fill the little well? That sounds like the REO doesn't it? or I think it does :laugh:

Well the wicking works a little different in something like the magma with a large juice well, versus wicking through a tank system like the Kayfun or a clearo. You'd be surprised how much better something can wick when the juice is completely unobstructed from the coil. In a Kayfun or a clearo, the coil has to be isolated in some way from the juice container in order to avoid flooding. With the Kayfun thats the juice channels, with the Nautilus its the enclosed wick head, or even something like an old Vivi Nova or a ProTank it meant basically having wicks completely obstruct the holes where they exit the coil head and having a piece of silicon cover it. You had to rely on the juice wicking through the wick holes and traveling through a wick that was ever so slightly choked in order to prevent flooding. My experience had always been with these, the thick juices were stubborn about traveling through the wick. They'd wet the coil, but not fully saturate them.

In the Magma when you have the juice well completely filled, the juice level is VERY close to the coil and the wick is completely unobstructed. So the juice has a very short distance to travel, and it has no obstruction or choke point. Not to mention, cotton is FAR more absorbent than the standard silica wick in clearos. Also, you can always use a Magma just like any other dripper. Drip directly on the coil, vape, repeat.

Believe me, I thought the same thing before I got an RDA. You won't really see what I mean until you try one for yourself. An excellent RDA clone can be had today for amazing prices, so there's really no reason not to try one. Unless you don't know how to build a coil, which is also easy. Which is also ANOTHER benefit over a tank system. You can build the EXACT setup you want in an RDA. In a Kayfun, not so much.
 

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Ok I am with you so far but I am wondering what you mean when you suggest that you cannot get the exact build you want over a Kayfun or actually any RBA. Is this due to the deck build / size of the atty? I see some crazy picts of what people have done with all sorts of RBAs.

And where does something like the Magoo fit into all this? Is that considered a RBA or an RDA?
 

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    Ah ... but that was my point! The Magma now has a "well" to "fill", albeit small, and wick from that but you are no longer simply dripping and that is what got me thinking about this. If they hadn't added that bit in it I would have kept on thinking about it that same way; you drip / vape some / drip more. But that addition and how it looked I thought "Shoot they could add a tank on it with a channel in there and they would be the same." Then what if they added a squeeze bottle somewhere to fill the little well? That sounds like the REO doesn't it? or I think it does :laugh:
    The REO's RM's have the airflow coming from the side like a traditional RDA , the airflow on the Magma is channeled from underneath like a Kayfun and a domed chamber to concentrate the vapor like a hemi head in an engine , the Kayfun is restricted in juice and airflow and build space by design , my best description of a vape from the Magma is Kayfun times four because it doesn't have the restrictions of a Kayfun , it's a totally different experience , I haven't had a chance to vape a REO with the new dual coil atty they have now so I won't chance a comparison there but the Magma is superior to a single coil RDA IMO . Having said all this I still use my Kayfuns for out and about but a subohm coiled Magma is my vape of choice at home , there is no comparison between the two and there's no way you're gonna get it until you get a Magma .
     

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    How do you invert the deck?

    Hola Vapero! It's quite simple: remove the post assembly, it will unscrew out; then pull out the collapsing deck where the extra juice is stored. There's a filling nipple on it that unscrews as well, remove it and replace it backwards from the underside. Replace the deck/well upside down and then replace the post assembly on top. This way it will hold a lot more juice, both under the compressible deck and on top of it. The action remains the same.

    If you get stuck (doubtful) let me know and I'll post some pics.
     

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    I use my Magma almost exclusively for my single coil builds and keep the airflow opened on both ends. The flavor is only slightly diminished which is still leaps and bounds over a kayfun. The vape is too hot for me using duals on the Magma. I know a lot of ppl like that but to each their own.

    What ohm's are you running on a single coil? What did you run on dual? I'm thinking of buying a Magma and normally run 1.2 ohm single coils at the present moment.

    Get a 3D clone and invert the deck. It will hold more than 2.5 ml in the well (and it goes hybrid on a Nemmy).
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    Hola Vapero! It's quite simple: remove the post assembly, it will unscrew out; then pull out the collapsing deck where the extra juice is stored. There's a filling nipple on it that unscrews as well, remove it and replace it backwards from the underside. Replace the deck/well upside down and then replace the post assembly on top. This way it will hold a lot more juice, both under the compressible deck and on top of it. The action remains the same.

    If you get stuck (doubtful) let me know and I'll post some pics.

    I currently have the 3D and love it! I don't see how you are able to keep the top cap on with the build deck reversed? The top cap seals to the collapsing deck and if it's up side down it might hold more juice but how do you get it out with the deck reversed there would be lip that doesn't allow you to compress the deck fully? I would like pics if you can post them please.
     

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    Hola Vapero! It's quite simple: remove the post assembly, it will unscrew out; then pull out the collapsing deck where the extra juice is stored. There's a filling nipple on it that unscrews as well, remove it and replace it backwards from the underside. Replace the deck/well upside down and then replace the post assembly on top. This way it will hold a lot more juice, both under the compressible deck and on top of it. The action remains the same.

    If you get stuck (doubtful) let me know and I'll post some pics.

    Could you post some pics?

    I currently have the 3D and love it! I don't see how you are able to keep the top cap on with the build deck reversed? The top cap seals to the collapsing deck and if it's up side down it might hold more juice but how do you get it out with the deck reversed there would be lip that doesn't allow you to compress the deck fully? I would like pics if you can post them please.

    Yea i love it too, and my thought is exactly the same as you and isn't it making the top cap unattachable? Cause I thought the top cap is sealed with o rings to the collapsing deck
     
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