RDA Round-Table Discussion and Lookout
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I have the say the Kennedy 24 is the only atty I've ever used where I haven't been looking at other ones. This atty is near perfect in every aspect and unless something truly game changing comes out I won't be getting any other rda's except another 24.
Tried a Kennedy 24 today. Might end up buying one tomorrow. Don't like the copper post (even if it is lead-free). Would rather see SS in its place. Would also like to see a Demon Cap 24 to help reduce carbon buildup on gunky NETs. Anyone have any feedback regarding the SOV The Zenith? Looks like the build deck has enough space for big coils...
The new Kennedy 24 on an AVLyfe mod (yeah, I know how douchey they are lol) is seriously one of the most sexy setups I have seen in a long time! When I dive back in to the world of mech mods, an insanely high end tube with a Kennedy is what I will be doing
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Something about this topcap is so sick to me...
Sexy
Classy
Thanks for drooling with me...
My copper kennedy 24 looks amazing on my OG copper Manhattan. I think RDAs slowed down a bit and now there picking back up. I used to post daily and I just dont see the need as much anymore but H and Mann and all the OGs of this thread get mad respects.
My tastes have changed drastically though. It all started when I got into building, I could always do fused claptons and basic .... but I have reallllly gotten into building. I just spent $1000 on wire a few weeks ago, although that was right after I sold my first $1000 order worth of coils and I used not even 5% of the wire on the order so I am damm happy guys. I got 20,000ft of 40g, 10,000 feet of 36g, 10,000 ft of 34g, 1000ft of 24-28 haha. Anyways, now that I am really into building my tastes have changed from a little bit of airflow into enjoying a bit more of an airy draw and a bigger chamger. My favroite atties are the Phenotype L and the new Kenedys. I know some atties have better flavor then others but I now feel any attie can be enhanced with a certain build. The test of a true flavor attie is still a 24g 2.5mm 6 wrap dual. If shes tasty, thats a flavor attie IMO haha.
So, I rock a Kennedy 24 on my Manhattan another Kennedy 24 on my Limitless, Phenotype on my Dos Equis, Phenotype on my Raptor T6, I use two Kennedy 22s for my Hexohms, Twisted Messes on an Li and I got two Tugboats with Anarchist caps on the new SMPLs. I got other mods and atties but I am more happy now then I have ever been in my vaping carrer. Not even looking for .... really anymore. Im building all the variations on staggered coils, staple coils, fused coils etc etc. My current go to build is a 4 core 28g fused with 40g all ni80. Ohms at just over a .1 after pulseing and so forth and provides an amazing, dense, warm and flavorful vape at 4v.
My tastes have changed drastically though. It all started when I got into building, I could always do fused claptons and basic .... but I have reallllly gotten into building. I just spent $1000 on wire a few weeks ago, although that was right after I sold my first $1000 order worth of coils and I used not even 5% of the wire on the order so I am damm happy guys. I got 20,000ft of 40g, 10,000 feet of 36g, 10,000 ft of 34g, 1000ft of 24-28 haha. Anyways, now that I am really into building my tastes have changed from a little bit of airflow into enjoying a bit more of an airy draw and a bigger chamger. My favroite atties are the Phenotype L and the new Kenedys. I know some atties have better flavor then others but I now feel any attie can be enhanced with a certain build. The test of a true flavor attie is still a 24g 2.5mm 6 wrap dual. If shes tasty, thats a flavor attie IMO haha.
So, I rock a Kennedy 24 on my Manhattan another Kennedy 24 on my Limitless, Phenotype on my Dos Equis, Phenotype on my Raptor T6, I use two Kennedy 22s for my Hexohms, Twisted Messes on an Li and I got two Tugboats with Anarchist caps on the new SMPLs. I got other mods and atties but I am more happy now then I have ever been in my vaping carrer. Not even looking for .... really anymore. Im building all the variations on staggered coils, staple coils, fused coils etc etc. My current go to build is a 4 core 28g fused with 40g all ni80. Ohms at just over a .1 after pulseing and so forth and provides an amazing, dense, warm and flavorful vape at 4v.
The issue, at least ONE of the issues with the Zenith, is that it is hard to wick and once you do run low on liquid, juicing it up is a pain (there's just no room left). It almost requires a needle-nose or a syringe to get past the wicks. As those early on ribbed it (ahem, @TorontoOntario), it isn't' a "dripper" at all. The larger the coils the more impossible it is to juice up like a normal dripper. Unfortunately you'd have to have one to really be able to understand, but I think it is too much of a pain to recommend to my comrades--but by all means, choose for yourself.
Wow, I'm really, really happy for you!
My building skills are currently capped at staged heating coils using twisted 26gauge in parallel with another 2 strands of 26 gauge. I've always figured that advanced building could be something that I would enjoy, but I still have yet to budget in the variety of wire I will need. Reading how far you have come, I want to purchase some wires to learn Clapton Coils and Fused Claptons. What is your personal end all, be all wire combo for Clapton coils? I have 75watts to play with on this fancy new fangled Evic VTC Mini, so I'm really excited for what the future holds. Building for mech mods? K.I.S.S. but on a regulated mod, the sky is the limit. I'll be over here still practicing my tricks, but I really think advanced building is the next step for me. Good sir, do you have a web address where you sell your coils at? Maybe I will try before I buy! Once again, I'm really glad you have found what may possibly your end game in this wild goose chase we call the RDA market. I feel the same as you on many of the points you brought up here.
Peace!
They say on there website a stainless steel post upon request. Cause that's my one problem too. I just don't care for the copper on the inside.
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Wouldn't you be able to tilt a dropper through the cap and simply drip on the coils or the wicks? Once the wicks become saturated, juice begins to fills the well. Or drip directly on the positive post, allowing the juice to flow into the well. Will refilling the well not work in these ways?
Check this image I posted in the thread awhile back (it's not mine though). If you were to just try and fill it the way you suggest, you'd likely run into issues with getting liquid in the airholes and notice how the room in between the wicks is taken up by the air hole itself. Trying to drip around that is not easy and this pic makes it seem like there is more space than it actually will be--that is unless you use really small coils with tiny wicks.
And yes, you can redirect the air inlets, but I don't really see why anyone would want to unless maybe using a single-tail cotton wick on a horizontal coil. I don't think a single-tail wick would keep up with a horizontal coil. I guess you mighty could angle it up a bit though? I don't even mess with the atty anymore. I built it a few times and then left it on the shelf. The vape can be as good as you can make it, but I don't like interfacing with the atty.
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Derbberg. The best combo I have found is 4 core 28 fused with 40. I can do basically every coil out and while staggered coils looo pretty they vape like ..... Everyone loves my 4 cores. I am in four shops now. I use ni80 to build with all the time. Faster ramp up and a bit lower resitance. I use these 4 cores in basically all my atties. I actually have a tripple core staggered staple on my desk that I just ripped out of my Phenotype aftet five minutes in favor or a 4 core fused. Flavor is insane, ramp up is great as is the production. The coils also arent that massive so they can basically go in any attie. I run em in my Kennedys lol.
I can do fused clatpons pretty well, if you don't mind me asking how to do you pull off a 4 core? I have a spinner jig would you just stack the wires together? I remember trying once and it was a disaster.
I'm not sure what his method is, but for me keeping anything more than 2 wires parallel was my problem. After some searching I found a video where the person used a hair clip like this one to keep the wires completely parallel. He would put it on an inch or two away from where he's claptoning, then when he got to it he would move it another inch or two. Not the most time effective method but damn if it didn't work for him. My next build I'm going to try the fused 4 core 28n80 clapton
And neither will I. Thanks for the visual
.Placed a request for The Kennedy 24 w/ stainless steel post through LA Vapor Works.
Snapdragon First Impressions:
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I'm gonna start this by saying that this is the most irritating RDA I've owned so far. There are waaay too many pieces; I really don't care about being able to take every friggin piece apart for super thorough cleaning. At least not enough to deal with the frustration I've dealt with the last two nights. The deck is reverse threaded on to the 510 connector base; this unscrews ALL the time while mounting your coils and tightening down the post. Tightening down the positive post tight enough to secure your leads may cause the post to spin a little; at that point you have to take deck off the base, loosen the post, spin it, tighten it, then the thing will spin a little more out of place so you have then again loosen it, spin in it and repeat until it sits right. Once you have that, you need to thread the deck assembly back on to the 510 assembly; that's another huge PITA. There's this little delrin piece that sits on the bottom of the deck assembly with some grooves in it that allow the airflow to come in from the side holes up into the chamber. This can be pretty tricky; if it's too loose it won't make a connection and cause an open circuit and if it's too tight it the delrin piece will block the airflow inlets from the side airholes. That's only part of the problem though; these 'clamps' for securing your leads is probably the most awful design I've tried so far. My veritas is about 3x easier to build that this f***er. If you were doing nothing but single coils then this clamp design would be great but for duals, it's mind-bendingly frustrating to get both leads secure under those clamps. Once you thing you got it, you tighten it a little more and one of the leads will slip out from under the clamp. The only thing I can think of trying is to get my leads in place then twist them together slightly so there is only one twisted lead under the clamp as opposed to two parallel leads that slip out when tightening.
The flavor on this is pretty good, nothing to write home about though; the origen, ology, marquis and aeolus all beat it in this category (and probably every other category too).
I want to experiment more with it but so far it has done nothing but p*** me off. I'm gonna take a couple days away from this since my AX1 should be here today and I have a DIY box mod project I'm starting this weekend, not to mention experimenting with my 454 big block v2 which was fantastic to build on.
Maybe once I calm down from my two days of frustration with this atty I will pick it back up and try to get the flavor I originally bought it for. So far my first impression is that there is no way this is worth the asking price; yeah the build quality is phenomenal but everything else is not.
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I'm gonna start this by saying that this is the most irritating RDA I've owned so far. There are waaay too many pieces; I really don't care about being able to take every friggin piece apart for super thorough cleaning. At least not enough to deal with the frustration I've dealt with the last two nights. The deck is reverse threaded on to the 510 connector base; this unscrews ALL the time while mounting your coils and tightening down the post. Tightening down the positive post tight enough to secure your leads may cause the post to spin a little; at that point you have to take deck off the base, loosen the post, spin it, tighten it, then the thing will spin a little more out of place so you have then again loosen it, spin in it and repeat until it sits right. Once you have that, you need to thread the deck assembly back on to the 510 assembly; that's another huge PITA. There's this little delrin piece that sits on the bottom of the deck assembly with some grooves in it that allow the airflow to come in from the side holes up into the chamber. This can be pretty tricky; if it's too loose it won't make a connection and cause an open circuit and if it's too tight it the delrin piece will block the airflow inlets from the side airholes. That's only part of the problem though; these 'clamps' for securing your leads is probably the most awful design I've tried so far. My veritas is about 3x easier to build that this f***er. If you were doing nothing but single coils then this clamp design would be great but for duals, it's mind-bendingly frustrating to get both leads secure under those clamps. Once you thing you got it, you tighten it a little more and one of the leads will slip out from under the clamp. The only thing I can think of trying is to get my leads in place then twist them together slightly so there is only one twisted lead under the clamp as opposed to two parallel leads that slip out when tightening.
The flavor on this is pretty good, nothing to write home about though; the origen, ology, marquis and aeolus all beat it in this category (and probably every other category too).
I want to experiment more with it but so far it has done nothing but p*** me off. I'm gonna take a couple days away from this since my AX1 should be here today and I have a DIY box mod project I'm starting this weekend, not to mention experimenting with my 454 big block v2 which was fantastic to build on.
Maybe once I calm down from my two days of frustration with this atty I will pick it back up and try to get the flavor I originally bought it for. So far my first impression is that there is no way this is worth the asking price; yeah the build quality is phenomenal but everything else is not.
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Haven't had the deck problems with my Snapdragon. It can be a little annoying to get dual coils in but I found that if you secure the leads for one coil on each side then loosen the screws up just enough to pop the other coil's leads in it's much easier. Can't agree about the flavor either. I haven't tried the Ology but the flavor from the Snapdragon, for me, beats the Marquis and Aeolus easily. The Origen V3 is probably close. It's all just opinion though.
That's how I felt about the Le Magister at first. It was irritating the hell out of me so I kind of wrote it off and moved on with my vaping life. When I went back to it, I fell in love.
That's how I felt about the Le Magister at first. It was irritating the hell out of me so I kind of wrote it off and moved on with my vaping life. When I went back to it, I fell in love.
Thanks for the hope man, I do appreciate it. Nice tip about securing the leads too, I will definitely try that for my next build. For that flavor though, what build are you using? My first build was a dual 24g N80 2.4mm 9 wrap which came out around 0.22-0.25ish. The build I did yesterday was a dual 26g kanthal 2.4mm that came out to around 0.38-0.40 ohms. Both builds have been just okay, nothing amazing though.
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No problem, I know how it is. I'm having issues with my Hellfire 20mm short cranked bottom fed atty. I have a 22mm non-BF version that gives amazing flavor but the 20mm is muted. Doesn't make sense to me because you'd think smaller atty, more reduced chamber, better flavor. I know it's just a build issue but nothing I've tried so far has worked and it makes me want to throw it across the room.
My Snapdragon build - considering the ones you tried you may laugh at mine but it's 26g kanthal, 2.5 ID at .73 ohms that I vape between 25-30W. I'm getting rich, dense flavor and enough vapor for my liking.
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