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HeiSINberg

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Some of my first thoughts on the Pancake rda from Ohman.

First off quality, top notch, this is my first all titanium rda and his attention to detail really shows. This thing was spotless from top to bottom, granted I got this from a vape shop and not direct it still shows. No burs, metal flakes and no machine oil. And it's light, I have drip tips that are heavier than this is. I always thought titanium was heavier then stainless steel, guess not. This modder literally thought of everything for this rda. It's got adjustable air flow from dual to single coil, it comes bottom fed ready and there's no switching out pins, simply screw the little set screw that's sent with the rda into the top of the 510 pin and boom you can go from squonking to dripping on the fly basically. Comes with a delrin semi-chuff tip and a 510 adapter for your favorite tips. The only thing I'd like and it's really my only con is more room, I was afraid to get this cause of my time with the LowPro atty, the build style is pretty close to the same but where the low pro fails the pancake makes up for it elsewhere but I'll get into that later. I set it up with a single coil dead center ohms out at just under 1 ohm, with both air holes wide open. It's not bad, am I satisfied? Nope. But this is my first build and I don't fault the pancake in the slightest bit, I just need to find my right style cause I won't be giving up on this that fast. I'm really a fan of higher ohm single coils so I started out that way. To me this rda is really geared towards bottom feeding, cause once a build is in there and all wicked up there's not much room. In dripper mode I'm dripping almost every 2-3 hits, but that's only because I don't have a mod readily available yet for it, but that'll change. That leads me back to my only con so far, the room, if someone bought this for straight dripping they'd get tired fast. Subjective I know but I have to mention it. The pros outweigh the cons easily without a doubt, I'd recommend this all day to someone with a bottom fed mod definitely. I'd give it a 8/10 so far, I'll comment later when I get more builds in there. Sorry for the long read I tend to ramble, but I hope I touched on everything I wanted too.
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Just my opinion here, but I still can't see how you can get any real air to the coil with the wicking as it is... Maybe if it was angled and it could get air from both sides direct to the coil and not have to go around the wicking...
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It's honestly not blocking it, although it looks like It is. The coil is pretty low, like a hair off the bottom. I was gonna angle it up but I figured the coil wasn't gonna last long in it anyway since it isn't great as is.

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Its just in my head I'm guessing, but every atty I've had success with has had the coil/coils directly in front of and centered on the airflow to keep that steady flow of air over/under and around the coil. I've tried a couple Z-coils in a stumpy I had and a couple other atty's, including the O-16's I have now and the airflow felt like it was completely cut off in them. Even with them wide open. For that matter, I've never had success with a top air atty either. Just couldn't find the air path in them either...
 

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Its just in my head I'm guessing, but every atty I've had success with has had the coil/coils directly in front of and centered on the airflow to keep that steady flow of air over/under and around the coil. I've tried a couple Z-coils in a stumpy I had and a couple other atty's, including the O-16's I have now and the airflow felt like it was completely cut off in them. Even with them wide open. For that matter, I've never had success with a top air atty either. Just couldn't find the air path in them either...
That's why the build is coming out, cause it's terrible lol. Your right though I've never had much luck with builds like this either, I just wanted it built so I could test it out but essentially it was a waste of time cause I shoulda just built it like it was intended. It'll be coming out shortly.

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That's why the build is coming out, cause it's terrible lol. Your right though I've never had much luck with builds like this either, I just wanted it built so I could test it out but essentially it was a waste of time cause I shoulda just built it like it was intended. It'll be coming out shortly.

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Love your honesty!

Kformeck and I were talking about this the other day. I just never understood when I saw builds like this in this atty or others. It looked to me that only sliver of the coil would be getting hit by air. I just couldn't understand it! Luckily, you said what I felt was likely the result or, at least, the result that I would get. A build maybe worthy of a Kodak moment, but not one worth all that much in the form of a vape!

Having said that, (from what I can tell, even not having the atty) it looks like you could just have the leads a tiny bit longer and use a coiling rod or drill bit to lift the coil up higher to meet the airflow. Then again, I really don't know this atty.
 
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My initial build in the Pancake is similar to @HeiSINberg except I tilted the coil at a 45° angle. Vaping pretty well. The wicking, obviously, constricts the airflow to a degree but not as much as I would've thought. I'm getting pretty damn good flavor and about the same vapor production as the NarDA (which is plenty for me). I still want to play around with some more builds and even try a "harp" coil (I think that's what Bret called it) but I'm definitely satisfied with my purchase. I see that Ought Vape still has the brush coil jig for the Pancake, I'm gonna have to pick one up to help with "harp" coils.

ETA: My only negative thus far is that this atty isn't the easiest to build on. I guess the more accurate way to put it would be that it's aggravating to build on. Getting the leads around the screw head (and to stay trapped) can be an exercise in frustration. Some of that is probably due to me using Clapton wire and next build I'm going to use either SS 316L or 26g Kanthal to determine if that makes things a bit less annoying. I'm sure that it will.
 
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Oh and if anyone's interested, there will be a batch of Velocity V2s released on the Avid Vaper site in about 40 minutes (9PM EST)

Get the hell outta here! Word?! What is different about this one, I wonder?

Maybe I am not seeing it correctly, but I think it's basically the same thing. I was hoping it was actually a new design. Oh well.
 
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Get the hell outta here! Word?! What is different about this one, I wonder?

Maybe I am not seeing it correctly, but I think it's basically the same thing. I was hoping it was actually a new design. Oh well.
They're up right now, not sure how long they're going to last.

The V2 has a small chamber, comes with a BF and non BF pin and multiple grub screw options (slotted, Phillips, hex). Not sure what else is different, if anything.
 
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They're up right now, not sure how long they're going to last.

The V2 has a small chamber, comes with a BF and non BF pin and multiple grub screw options (slotted, Phillips, hex). Not sure what else is different, if anything.

Wow. I actually decided to buy it and waited too long. Them sh**z is gone! LOL
 

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I have a guy that wants to do some trading with me. He said has a dotmod petri, but didn't say what kind or if it was authentic. He did mention another rda and told me it was a clone. I'm meeting him tomorrow. Does anyone have any advice on how to tell if the petri is authentic?

Maybe packaging?
 
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Okay. I had read some other clones had some pretty good tells, like different sized posts or different machining marks. Are Petri clones pretty good? I only just started using RDAs, and only have one so far, an Indestructible.

I don't know much about clones or which ones to buy; I just know where to buy them. Good luck though. I'd just say go with something verifiable.
 
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