READYxWICK for non cotton people

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Well, I finally honed in a perfect size coil to wind and be able to do the "insert" method without being too tight and frustrating to thread thru and too loose where the wick was moving around. Took advice from here and cut wick at angle, dip in vg and thread thru. VOILA, I did it!! The wick slides in and not too tight.

So, tell the rest of the class what you used: 1/16 drill bit, 16ga needle, something else? Assume you are using 2mm RxW ?
 

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Okay so...... I have conformed!
I was always preaching that it was easy and effective to just stick a pin in the middle of the xc and just hand wrap. I thought I was quite good at it it and made nice tight even coils very quickly and easily.
Well, I finally honed in a perfect size coil to wind and be able to do the "insert" method without being too tight and frustrating to thread thru and too loose where the wick was moving around. Took advice from here and cut wick at angle, dip in vg and thread thru. VOILA, I did it!! The wick slides in and not too tight.
I vaped on this over the weekend and much to my surprise I COULD tell a difference between this method and my old way. It seemed to vape smoother, generate more vapor, and smoother flavor. It may be the placebo effect but I don't think so. It seems without disturbing the strands by inserting the pin and indenting the wick with each hand wrap the wick performs better? Kind of like a nice garden hose without and kinks or twists. When i checked the wick after vaping i could acutally see the juice in the middle of the hollow wick which I never noticed before on my hand wraps.
Just my observation. Seems to go along with what MacTechvpr was explaining in more eloquent terminology! :)

Hi Rudy, thanks for that feedback. Glad you're enjoying that vape. It's been a trial by fire for me so to speak, grueling at times to have to vape certain things, with the extended tests on Nextel and other media I've run. But it's been extremely rewarding too yielding often some surprising results. Here in the REO's thread it's an excellent topic; that is, how we thread small wick diameters. While I do believe there is an optimal for ceramic weave fiber it depends on the production, how prepared for consumption and the eventual diameter of the finished product. And it is about matching the coil to the wick for the best surface contact and so vaporization. With small drippers it becomes even more important as the differences in fit can equate to significant disparities in efficiency in one direction or another…to tight or too loose.

I have a little experience with this and I posted one example on the Protank Micro Coil thread including a simple method for introducing wick into small diameters I first talked about here...Protank Cotton Rebuild, the way I do it: Post #259; How to thread ANYTHING! More power to ya.


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Hey, I know it's not cellophane but it's what comes to mind when I see it. So any ordinary sandwich wrap will do just dandy. And if you're eager to try ReadyXWick or any other narrow wick in 1.4mm or less you might give it a shot.

Rudy we wind whatever gives us pleasure, right? And sometimes that varies. It does for all of us. To be clear what I advocate is a baseline of electrical accuracy so we can adequately gauge (with a metric) what is the best efficiency we can derive from a tank, a build, a power level or a juice.

Enjoy, and good luck.

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So, tell the rest of the class what you used: 1/16 drill bit, 16ga needle, something else? Assume you are using 2mm RxW ?

It was a needle, not 100% sure of gauge size. Pretty sure it was 16ga. Whatever it is it's slightly, I mean slightly larger than a 1/16" drill bit as I tried that first and found it a bit too small for my fumbling self. The needle I used must be micromilimeters bigger. All I know is that it worked! :)
 

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Can you explain that again to someone without an abundance of brain cells left? :)

Are you saying to wrap direcctly onto the 2mm ReadyXwick with nothing in the hollow core of the wick like a paperclip or syringe? But try not to compress the wick so it closes the hollow core?

Negative jif. I introduced a method of tension winding coils directly off the spool on the Protank Microcoil thread, later super_X's big picture originating micro coil thread. I'm hoping more of us will try it as it's quick and most of all electrically efficient. But for Nextel a very stable pre-made coil that fits it well is ideal to take advantage of its impressive flow. It's hollow core fills when not overly compressed to keep it's thin .1mm carcass thoroughly saturated despite high temperatures. It also helps tremendously with overtight winding which really crimps synthetics like Eko and Nextel.

I don't work for the producer btw, or anyone. Retired and happy, thank you. Just trying to give back what I couldn't pay forward.

I'm sure most of you here are getting a great vape. Just sayin' it's worth a try.

Back to the newcomers in the crowd. Y'all take care and...

Good luck.

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Thanks, Mac.

basically - make a coil just like you would when using cotton. Instead of slipping in the cotton wick slip in the xc. :)
I think it was a 16 guage needle I used to wrap the coil.

I found that when I did the direct hand wrap method with paperclip inserted in middle of the xc that after I slipped the clip out after wrapping I didn't have that nice clear flo thru the middle of the xc as it closed up after slipping out the clip. Using the premade coil and slipping in the xc afterwards unmolested it stayed intact with a nice flow thru the middle as Mac stated. It's true, it's true, it IS better! :)
 

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Will do exactly this very soon. Thanks for dumbing it down for me, Rudy.

Actually I would have never given all this wick/coil insert/direct wrap method alternatives a second thought as I have been satisfied with the way I was doing it before reading Mac's informative & educational thread! After reading his words of wisdom the curiosity got the best of me and had to prove it to myself. I guess initially I got overly frustrated trying to thread the xc thru a too small coil and gave me the "hell with this" mentality. After an attitude adjustment I made a slightly larger coil to accomodate the 2mm wick and followed the threading tips given here. I am so glad I did because it DID make a difference! Mac not only sounded like he knew what he was talking about, he does know what he's talking about/ Proof in the puiddin'! :)`
 

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So, tell the rest of the class what you used: 1/16 drill bit, 16ga needle, something else? Assume you are using 2mm RxW ?


Quote from earlier remarks by Mac-

"There are other diameters you can try. Like a 16 Ga. blunt needle which is slightly wider than 1/16" and will provide a bit more space to induce the compression of the braid in threading."
 

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Someone more sciencey than me please chime in, but I believe there is a micron threshold over which, even if inhaled, with not absorb into the alveoli. I want to say 16 microns, but that could be straight from my ayuss. Silica is below that threshold, I believe the German braided is slightly above, and this was rTed larger than that.
I'm talking about the pieces splintering or "shedding" off.


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Germany you said? whattt? Just ordered for the first time some readyxwick and hope it lives up to its hype.

It really does. I didn't like cotton and I don't like silica. ReadyxWick is the only thing I've used since I found it (just ordered another 3 feet yesterday because only having 18" in reserve is not enough to make me feel comfortable :D).
 

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Someone more sciencey than me please chime in, but I believe there is a micron threshold over which, even if inhaled, with not absorb into the alveoli. I want to say 16 microns, but that could be straight from my ayuss. Silica is below that threshold, I believe the German braided is slightly above, and this was rTed larger than that.
I'm talking about the pieces splintering or "shedding" off.

MoN, the following was one of the crucial threads that prompted my interest in conducting a consumer study of Nextel and other media along with methods of their use…

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...nextel-xc-116-ceramic-sleeving-wicking-2.html

I think this quote citing the producers MSDS may be the comment you are referring to…

OTHER HEALTH HAZARD INFORMATION:
Due to their large size (7-13 microns in diameter), these Nextel (TM)
Ceramic Fibers are considered non-respirable and therefore are not
expected to pose a cancer risk. Fibers are defined as respirable by
WHO convention if the length is larger than 5 microns and the
diameter is less than 3 microns with a length to diameter ratio
greater than 3:1."

So it looks like (and do not mistake me as an expert on this!) it may cause upper respiratory irritation (personally I haven't had any), possible skin/eye irritation. Cancer is not a risk, as these fibers are too large to get into the lungs (7-13 microns), nor is silicosis (which comes from silica particles 5 microns and less).

I believe all of us in the community have an obligation as individuals to practice due diligence where our health is concerned. It stands to reason that we do. That's why we quit smoking a certain product regulated and approved by our federal government.

Apparently some of them didn't get the memo.

Good luck all.

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