Really hope this doesn't start an argument but why do people care??

[DelilahDeMonika]

Some stuff I've been wondering about but don't want to start an argument between anyone,why do so many people seem to care if people vape differently than them or for different reasons? What originally started me wondering was people in a vape lounge (customers not employees) got all pissy when they heard the worker there ask me how long it'd been for me since I quite smoking and I told him I've never even smoked a cigarette. Heard them making dumb comments and the guy working asked them to leave,later I mentioned what happened in a FB group and got pretty much the same reaction from the majority of people in it & it turned into a big argument,a few people supporting me (even though I wasn't even arguing so idk why they were bothering) but most ranting about how non smokers who vape are dumb/posers/annoying/etc. Then I started noticing that a lot of people seem to have problems with the way other people choose to vape,like people saying cloud chasing is stupid or people saying that using high nic levels are stupid,etc etc etc. I really don't get it but I am curious if there's a valid reason or if it's just as stupid as people who hate someone with a different music or clothing taste. Which is how I see it at this point. idk maybe I'm just too self absorbed to care what anyone else does (or so I've been told when I've said I couldn't care less how or why other people do what they do and so no one should care why/how I do what I do)
Anyways what's all the fuss about it,why on earth does it matter to anyone?

 

[roxynoodle]

Because some people are egomaniacal busybodies?

 

[DelilahDeMonika]

Because some people are egomaniacal busybodies?

Lol very true but key words were valid reasons,I really am curious why anyone would care.

 

[Lessifer]

Short answer: people are afraid vaping will be taken away from us.

Longer answer:
Non-smokers vaping, it's been a tough one for a long time. One of the biggest thing thrown in our faces, even though it's patently untrue, is that vaping is a ploy by big tobacco to gain new customers. Some people also feel that vaping is meant to get people away from smoking, if you didn't smoke, why pick up vaping? That attitude is starting to change, but it still pokes its head up a lot.

As for how others vape, I've heard it all, chain vapers will make themselves sick and bring the FDA down on us. Cloud chasers give vaping a bad name and will bring the FDA down on us. Non-smokers are a fad, and will bring the FDA down on us. That's the root of it for a lot of people.

Other than that, like any other hobby, people tend to think their way is the best.

This place(ECF) is mostly not like that. There are heated debates at times, but the sense of community here is usually much stronger.

 

[roxynoodle]

I don't know why either but you'll see it here everyday.

 

[Robert Cromwell]

Most people are busybodies to some extent. Things they do not want to do they do not want anyone to do it. And this goes far beyond vaping. Religions are based on this moreso than on any deity.

 

[DelilahDeMonika]

Short answer: people are afraid vaping will be taken away from us.

Longer answer:
Non-smokers vaping, it's been a tough one for a long time. One of the biggest thing thrown in our faces, even though it's patently untrue, is that vaping is a ploy by big tobacco to gain new customers. Some people also feel that vaping is meant to get people away from smoking, if you didn't smoke, why pick up vaping? That attitude is starting to change, but it still pokes its head up a lot.

As for how others vape, I've heard it all, chain vapers will make themselves sick and bring the FDA down on us. Cloud chasers give vaping a bad name and will bring the FDA down on us. Non-smokers are a fad, and will bring the FDA down on us. That's the root of it for a lot of people.

Other than that, like any other hobby, people tend to think their way is the best.

This place(ECF) is mostly not like that. There are heated debates at times, but the sense of community here is usually much stronger.

Makes sense for the people who aren't being nasty about it,the ones getting their panties in a twist still make no sense. Not sure if you're asking me why I started when I didn't smoke or if that's just part of your example but I started bc a friend of mine does and I tried hers,liked the taste and bought my own then started having fun with it buying juices. It didn't cause a nicotine issue bc I almost never buy anything with nicotine in it,if I do it's never more than 3mg or I get really sick & light headed. Plus I eat a ton and when I say a ton I mean well over 3,500 cals a day and vaping helps me eat less junk food. I figure even though some of the juices might not be the healthiest thing in the world they're still better for me than binging on thousands of calories of junk food.

 

[Bunnykiller]

the way I see it.... you either are like them or youre not like them. If you are like them, then they have a new person to add to their list of "friends"... its all about being liked by others.... they need to be liked/accepted... and if you are not like them, then you wont like them and wont be their friend thus they feel snubbed... if you even look like you are going to snub them by not liking their viewpoint, they turn on you so they wont get their feelings hurt from you not liking them....

aint human nature a trip ???

 

[DelilahDeMonika]

the way I see it.... you either are like them or youre not like them. If you are like them, then they have a new person to add to their list of "friends"... its all about being liked by others.... they need to be liked/accepted... and if you are not like them, then you wont like them and wont be their friend thus they feel snubbed... if you even look like you are going to snub them by not liking their viewpoint, they turn on you so they wont get their feelings hurt from you not liking them....

aint human nature a trip ???

Lol well I do have chronic rbf so maybe that has something to do with it

 

[Lessifer]

Makes sense for the people who aren't being nasty about it,the ones getting their panties in a twist still make no sense. Not sure if you're asking me why I started when I didn't smoke or if that's just part of your example but I started bc a friend of mine does and I tried hers,liked the taste and bought my own then started having fun with it buying juices. It didn't cause a nicotine issue bc I almost never buy anything with nicotine in it,if I do it's never more than 3mg or I get really sick & light headed. Plus I eat a ton and when I say a ton I mean well over 3,500 cals a day and vaping helps me eat less junk food. I figure even though some of the juices might not be the healthiest thing in the world they're still better for me than binging on thousands of calories of junk food.

People can be really nasty about it, part of it is the fear, part is the hobby, part is the group mentality and part is the anonymity of the internet and society in general being less civil. As for you vaping when you haven't smoked, I have no issue with it. I figure you're still someone who isn't smoking because you vape. Nicotine has it's merits, and you're free to enjoy whatever recreation you choose

 

[tony7432]

dont give those people any attention or thought, do what you like long as it doesnt hurt anyone or yourself and your enjoying the time spent doing it. i started vaping because the tobacco tax is really high here in sydney, australia so i did not want to spend $25 on a single stick of cigar for only 90 minutes or $65 for a 250g of hookah shisha because i also enjoy smoking hookah, so i started vaping as a alternative to cigars and hookah but truth be told even if there was no high tobacco tax i dont think i would go back full time to cigars and hookahs, i really enjoy vaping and its something my wife also enjoys doing with me..it has brought us closer together..

 

[Rixsta]

I'm afraid this is just human nature, not really a reflection on vaping, just a reflection of self minded idiots.

 

[Spencer87]

Yea, I saw a vape shop worker Vaping and never smoked. I was a little surprised... I think maybe it is because, we used vaping to get off smoking... Had we not tried to get off smoking, we wouldnt be vaping, ergo, if we never smoked, we would never need vaping....

but thats why we started
I honestly couldnt care less why you vape... its a hobby. Just can understand the other side of it, but sympathize more with you.

 

[Rabbit Slayer]

Simplest answer I can think of is, because people.

 

[Mooch]

I'm afraid this is just human nature, not really a reflection on vaping, just a reflection of self minded idiots.

I agree. For some, there's no better way to feel better about yourself than to find a reason to put somebody down. It's easy to do, doesn't cost any money, and makes the person feel superior to someone else. I think it's just basic human nature.

Having said that.....
It's a spectacular waste of time as it will never address the reason why someone needs to do that, just gives them a quick superiority hit, and seeing it makes me mad as hell. How the heck can someone have so much free time in their frakkin' life that they can do something as incredibly useless as putting down someone else for a lifestyle choice they made!?! What?!?

Soooo....valid reasons? Not sure if this is something anyone should consider to be valid but the reason, I think, is that it makes them feel better because they got to judge somebody as being less smart, less something, as they are. Powerful medicine to some.

 

[issy]

I'm afraid this is just human nature, not really a reflection on vaping, just a reflection of self minded idiots.

This. Very likely, these people are like this in many other ways in their lives. A lot of people are. I like to live by "live and let live," and I'm constantly reminded every day how most people seem like they've never even heard that quote. Oh well.

Perhaps another question would be...why do you care that they care? I've had to let go of it over the years...When we care that they care, then it gets to us. Harder said than done.

 

[crxess]

Vaping is just a thing. No different than many things in life. People think they deserve it or people think others should keep. Some think a thing shouldn't be and others think it should be for everyone.

Quite frankly I think it is the People that are the problem, not the thing.

As for me - I really don't care .
Do what you enjoy
Enjoy what you do.

 

[McFeely]

I only care what others do when it puts vaping in a bad light.
I care when people are flip about battery safety
I care when people "Vape where they want" mostly the attitude, and blowing huge clouds or blowing their vapor in people faces in non smoking areas.
I don't post much in the forums anymore as people tend to jump on you when their opinion doesn't match yours.

I enjoy vaping and would rather not have to hide it or pay the government to do it. ie (banned completely or taxed ridiculously)

 

[Rixsta]

On a light note and forgive my humour, it is no way meant to offend but if that is you in your avatar pic, then I'd be too afraid to say anything to you, you'd probably knock me out..
Joking apart, it's best to just rise above those type of people, harder said than done sometimes but better not to give them the satisfaction

 

[DelilahDeMonika]

This. Very likely, these people are like this in many other ways in their lives. A lot of people are. I like to live by "live and let live," and I'm constantly reminded every day how most people seem like they've never even heard that quote. Oh well.

Perhaps another question would be...why do you care that they care? I've had to let go of it over the years...When we care that they care, then it gets to us. Harder said than done.

It's more of a curiosity then a care really,I do think it's silly but I don't feel upset by it. Plus those sorts of judgments are so much less valid than other ones that I get,I do & say fair amount of things people disagree with & most of them I can understand the judgement...doesn't mean I care lol but I can understand it. This was one I didn't understand so I was curious. idk if being curious means I care,maybe it does in a way but not the omg I'm so offended how dare you type of way. More of a what in the world does it matter way lol.