Non Smokers beginning to pick up vaping?
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I started with 12mg juices back when I had my MVP2. I used the nicotine to calm me down. But once I started dripping, I quickly dropped down and now only vape 0 nic juices. The breathing required to vape with my set up helps me relax from anxiety and stress and etc now.
I vape pretty much daily.
Before I picked up vaping, I smoked hookah socially with a group of friends every few days. But now that I've picked up vaping, I usually just vape while they all take hits off the hookah. I also had the occasional pack of cigarettes every once and a while.
I think of it like this: if I didn't know about vaping when I made the "decision " to start "smoking", I would be on cigs right now throwing money and years of my life away. I knew I was going to get into the "act of smoking" either way, I'm just glad I found vaping first.
Interesting, let us enter a world in the future when vaping is the norm and tobacco smoking is basically non-existent. There would still be adults who vaped nicotine induced liquid and they would be doing it besides what any government told them they could do because gov't has historically never been able to control anything the people want to do.
So, what about the children. Well, let's look back then instead of the future. Has any government or parent been able to stop people from doing what they want to do? No, prohibition fails miserably every time. Nicotine is in this world, people like nicotine, people will use nicotine until this world ends.
So do your worst Big Brother...it doesn't matter. We'll find a way without you.
I don't know. I'm torn on this issue. On the one hand, as someone who struggled the last few years trying to quit I find it odd that people would start just because it's enjoyable or gives you a nicotine rush. Is it because it's becoming cool? Why not chew the gum then if all you want is nicotine?
On the other, I'm a hypocrite because the "it's enjoyable and gives you a nicotine rush" is exactly why I smoked.
So in the end I guess I just don't give a .... what other people do. Just as long as they don't become one of those douche bags that go into non smoking restaurants and blow huge obnoxious clouds and make us all look bad and gives politicians more ammo to shut it all down or make it harder for the people that use it as a way to quit smoking. I mean I love vaping, and I loved smoking, but I don't love vaping enough to have to get all my .... on the black market.
On the other, I'm a hypocrite because the "it's enjoyable and gives you a nicotine rush" is exactly why I smoked.
So in the end I guess I just don't give a .... what other people do. Just as long as they don't become one of those douche bags that go into non smoking restaurants and blow huge obnoxious clouds and make us all look bad and gives politicians more ammo to shut it all down or make it harder for the people that use it as a way to quit smoking. I mean I love vaping, and I loved smoking, but I don't love vaping enough to have to get all my .... on the black market.
It's the new cool thing. Plus it's a good ice breaker. A buddy who didn't smoke start vaping after 3 girls in two nights came up to me wanting to try my ecig. It's good for getting the awkward herpes question out of the way as well.
I started vaping shortly after smoking was banned indoors at bars, good times.
I started vaping shortly after smoking was banned indoors at bars, good times.
Thanks tj! I've been looking for data that compared youth smoking and vaping and this is the first time I've seen it
The problem with a graph like that is it doesn't tell the sample size which makes it as easy to say that teenage use is up 300% as it is to say it's up 3%. Our AG stated in a hearing last month that teenage use was up 500% as if that was a cold hard fact. When in reality it was nothing but manipulated stats. (and yes, I called them on their BS)
Now I need to buy a larger Seagate before I can download anymore studies/surveys
(thought I could get it all on a 2T external HD ......... silly me)
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Did you know that you were going to start smoking cigarettes and actively pick up vaping instead, as an alternative, or was it more of an unconscious thing? I guess what I'm asking is do you know for a fact that you would have picked up cigarettes instead?
I definitely wouldn't recommend it to a non smoker just because we don't know what the health impact of vaping is yet. I don't think it's as bad as smoking but without the data no one knows. So I would rather see them pick up vaping than smoking but I wouldn't recommend either.
How much data will ever be enough??????
I have well over 100 studies downloaded.
You might like looking here if you would like to do some reading this weekend.
Cigarette électronique : toutes les études scientifiques en un clic !
Just reading the abstracts will give you a good idea of what's going on so far.
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It wasn't so much of me waking up one day and suddenly deciding "I'm gonna start smoking now", it was a gradual process that led to me one day deciding to pick up a vape rather than cigarettes.
I guess I wasn't completely a non-smoker before I picked up vaping. Like I said, I did hookah every so often, and had a pack of cigarettes every few months that would last me like 2 or 3 weeks. I think I've been pretty well informed about the dangers involved with smoking cigarettes, hookah, and now vaping. Regardless, I knew that I enjoyed smoking, or rather - the act of smoking, so I picked up vaping as an alternative to hookah and cigarettes.
Do I recommend non-smokers to pick up vaping out of the blue? No. But in my case, I knew I would end up doing it anyway, so I chose vaping
Because no one has yet stated the obvious: Non-Smokers and even youngsters who take up vaping... the responsibility for that happening can be given 100% to the ANTZ. It is 100% sqaurely on them.
I'm not saying I have any opinions about if it's good or bad that this "group" or that "group" of folks might or might not start vaping. I *am* saying that non-smokers of all ages who take up vaping do so absolutely completely because of the ANTZ.
The ANTZ made darn sure e-cigs couldn't be marketed for smoking cessation. They made darn sure no health claims could be stated or implied. They made absolutely certain that ecigs would never have a customer base limited to those who want to stop using tobacco or to choose harm reduction. They did this, not us.
I'm not saying I have any opinions about if it's good or bad that this "group" or that "group" of folks might or might not start vaping. I *am* saying that non-smokers of all ages who take up vaping do so absolutely completely because of the ANTZ.
The ANTZ made darn sure e-cigs couldn't be marketed for smoking cessation. They made darn sure no health claims could be stated or implied. They made absolutely certain that ecigs would never have a customer base limited to those who want to stop using tobacco or to choose harm reduction. They did this, not us.
From my experience, those who picked up vaping (especially cloud blowing) who were never "smokers", are, in fact, smokers. Only not of cigarettes.
I get that impression, as well. I am surprised no one that I know of is selling THAT flavor of e-liquids, yet...
So I'm someone who has never smoked, nor has ever wanted to smoke, but I vape.
At first I vaped 0mg nic just for the flavor. It's relaxing, tasty, and 0 calories.
Now I vape 6mg nic because the nicotine helps me focus, eat less, feel happier, etc.
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At first I vaped 0mg nic just for the flavor. It's relaxing, tasty, and 0 calories.
Now I vape 6mg nic because the nicotine helps me focus, eat less, feel happier, etc.
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While this may have been covered, most non smoking vapers probably would have been smoking otherwise. How I really wish that vaping was around back when I started smoking. It could have saved me 25 years of misery.
I went from running marathons as an early teen to not being able to run a block, just a year or two after my first Marlboro.
I went from running marathons as an early teen to not being able to run a block, just a year or two after my first Marlboro.
I guess I'm in the position of being someone who started vaping as a way to not start smoking again. When I was in college, I smoked almost a pack a day. After graduation, my wife and I decided to quit, and I put down the smokes one day and that was the end. Never struggled or anything.
But for me, I always missed the act of smoking. Apparently I didn't need the nicotine, but I craved the relaxation of having a cig. After a lot of research, I decided that I would try vaping. It was that, or buy the occasional pack of smokes. And I know that smoking is awful for me, so the vaping is a much better alternative for me.
I generally vape 0mg nic liquid. I enjoy the flavor and find I don't even need to lung inhale to derive enjoyment. So I vape like I'm smoking a cigar. Get all the flavor and enjoyment, and none of the nastiness of analogs. When I'm having a particularly bad day, I may vape a little 3mg nic juice. It's a treat. And I do it instead of having a drink.
So for me, I'm smoke free, basically have no alcohol and vape instead. I'm happy with that!
But for me, I always missed the act of smoking. Apparently I didn't need the nicotine, but I craved the relaxation of having a cig. After a lot of research, I decided that I would try vaping. It was that, or buy the occasional pack of smokes. And I know that smoking is awful for me, so the vaping is a much better alternative for me.
I generally vape 0mg nic liquid. I enjoy the flavor and find I don't even need to lung inhale to derive enjoyment. So I vape like I'm smoking a cigar. Get all the flavor and enjoyment, and none of the nastiness of analogs. When I'm having a particularly bad day, I may vape a little 3mg nic juice. It's a treat. And I do it instead of having a drink.
So for me, I'm smoke free, basically have no alcohol and vape instead. I'm happy with that!
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