Really , Mt Baker .

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ChurchMouse

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Not true, I buy hubbies juice from a supplier (one 30ml at a time) and every order I've been getting a 5ml sample bottle included. :)

Some other vendors I've used do this, and it's great. I wish more did. But MBV gives you a full 15ml bottle of juice, which you can request and customize in the comments at checkout. Nic level, pg/vg ratio, the only difference is no flavor shots. Or you can take a random flavor of their choosing. So they're not just tossing in a 3ml or 5ml sample, but mixing you an extra custom bottle...for free. As far as I can tell, they don't even stock bottles smaller than 15ml.

You just have to spend $15 on their products. That's pretty generous. And if they started sending on every order whether it met the $15 or not, costly. Can you imagine the people who would put in daily small dollar orders of a coil, or an iclear 16, and get a constant supply of free liquid? "That guy that posted on ECF didn't have to spend $15...why should I?"

I'd say the OP is the potential loser here. Mt Baker is an awesome vendor, fresh juice, great customer service, and incredibly low prices with a range of options. I can see why it'd be annoying to realize I' was .03 shy of a free 15 ml bottle, but to put it all on the vendor like they've done you wrong is a bit much. If you'd have just bought the hawk sauce you'd have gotten a free bottle of something else, so 5 15ml bottles for under $20.

That said, since it is pretty easy to come just shy of that 15 bucks I think Mt Baker would keep people happy with a pop-up at checkout. Something like 'did you know if you spend xx more you could get a free sample?'. Might keep random complaints like this one down anyway.

That pop-up is a good idea. :thumbup:
 
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$15 is $15.. Your downing Mt Baker Vapor when it was 100% your fault... Wow...

No other company even gives out FREE bottles...

Not true... I've been ordering ejuice regularly, twice a month since mid-Feb, from MyFreedomSmokes. Since about the end of March or so, they've been sending along a 3ml sample of something. It's 12mg so I can't vape much of it or it would make me sick, and some of the samples are flavors I LOATHE... blue raspberry went straight into the trash. But one or two of them have been real winners, which I wouldn't have known if they hadn't thrown in the free sample. No, I couldn't vape much of the 12mg Apricot, but it was tasty enough that I bought a small bottle of the 6mg Apricot on my last order, and it's just as good, and now I have some 6mg Apricot for evening, and 9mg apricot for daytime. Because they sent me free samples -- twice they sent Apricot, so I had enough to mix with some 6mg to make a decent amount of 9mg. There's no dollar amount required, and in fact they don't advertise the free samples at all -- I guess they only do that for loyal repeat customers, which I definitely am.

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I just reread the op's post, He wrote " i bought three to try and requested a small sample of Hawk Sauce but only if possible ."

It sounds like he had no clue about MB giving a 15ml bottle of juice of your picking and your mix. He was only asking for a "small sample" that isn't out of the norm to ask. How many of you have gone to the deli and asked for a "small sample" of deli meat? I know I have before I wanted to commit to that purchase of meat :)

Now before you all say, Well we don't go to a furniture store and ask to take a small piece home to sample, (however you do sample it by trying it out at the store :) )
 

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Maybe i'm at fault but i decided to place my first order for some Baker juice , i bought three to try and requested a small sample of Hawk Sauce but only if possible .


I got my order today and when i opened it i had my three bottles with a little note that said we only give a sample if your entire order is $15.00 or more , my total order before tax was three penny's shy so no sample.

For a first time orderer i was left with a bad taste in my mouth , yes i suppose $15.00 is required but three pennys shy , c,mon especially if your looking to make a good first impression .

I know many love them but you would think for a first time customer they could of taken three penny's out of the (give a penny take a penny cup) especially when attempting to win over a customer who plans on spending quite a bit once i find a juice supplier i like.

A big :nah: for first impressions since i was completely unaware that you even had to reach $15.00 , three stinkin penny's , nice job Baker.

I did my first order of $75. and I never got a gift. it was my first time ordering but no whining here.
 

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It's a huge error on the vendors part if i'm honest, i know that it's $15 plus for the free sample and that it's probably hard coded into the checkout software but let's look at what's happened. The buyer has been left disappointed, he hasn't tried a new juice, he might not order from them again. Who's the real potential loser here? I know that it's either spend an extra 3 pence or let them off 3 pence but still, this has potential future sales loss written all over it. Buyers market, make your move.


Someone who gets it . For a new customer a good will gesture would of helped, this decision will probably cost them hundreds over the years if i was to continue buying from them , very very stupid move over three cents, especially for an unfamiliar and somewhat confused first time customer.

Let me get this straight. You ordered some juice from a vendor, and asked for a free sample, not knowing you could get one if you spent 15.00. You did not find out about the free sample if 15.00 is spent until you received your order.

I do not know of any juice makers that give free samples just for asking. How can you be mad at a company for not granting your wish, and then letting you know how you can get free juice going forward.

I have never ordered from them, but I do know their juice is supper cheap.

The nerve of some people.

I said IF i can get a free sample i would like to try Hawk sauce .

there is no error.the first thing you learn when you have a job where you deal upfront with customers
is the phrase the customer is always right is wrong.
it used to mean something.
The customer is always right - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
now day's its just an excuse for people to act like the donkey's behind that they are.
he could clearly have added a flavor shot and been ok,or ordered something else for that matter.
once he hits enter its done.the order cant be changed.thats another clearly stated policy
on mt. bakers sight.
personally i wouldn't want a customer that would have me violate not one,but 2 company policies.
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mike

I couldn't agree more , thats a BS motto for sure BUT if you don't live by it management will be on your ... saying live by it , the reason that BS motto even exists is to prevent the loss of a customer at any cost, period.

Employess and management suck it up and are supposed to put up with all types of customers regardless of who's right or wrong . You didn't think that motto was meant to be true did you lol, i certainly hope not but all businesses follow it.


Get real, there is a cutoff for a reason - so there's no hard feeling about who got what. If they give you a break, do they give the guy who came up 7 cents a break too? How about 9 cents? The guy who comes up 14 cents feels cheated b/c some guy 11 cents short got a sample and on and on...get the point? The $15 cutoff draws a very clear line in the sand that leaves no interpretation.

No you don't make a habit out of it , i bet it's very rarely an issue actually , but when you have the chance to make an impression on a potential customer you do not quibble over three cents , thats a NO BRAINER . How does the next customer know the one before him got a break on three pennies, he doesn't.

It's a judgement call , who has more to lose , Baker will lose a hell of a lot more than i will as i have plenty of B&M's down the street from me. When you weigh the advantages against the potential disadvantages most SMART vendors would want to lock down a potential long time customer than cut out a free sample over three cents.

QUOTE=Buggainok;13388322]I order all my juice from Mt. Baker Vapor because I like their juice, it's so reasonably priced, and they ship very quickly. The free sample is just icing on the cake, and a very nice bonus that they don't have to offer, but they do.

E-commerce is the same as regular commerce. Buyers and sellers need to know the terms of service when they do business. Mt. Baker Vapor states their policy pretty clearly, and that is their policy. You can't run a successful business if you are second guessing yourself, and making exceptions all the time.

I'm a golden oldie, and old school in many ways as a result. Some folks today always feel that they are the exception to the rule, and that the rules should not apply to them. It's been my experience that people like that are setting themselves up for a lot of frustration and dissatisfaction in life.

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Where do you come off with the above stuff , i said i was disappointed when Baker cut off a sample over three pennies instead of attempting to lock down a future customer.

Imo it's a very poor business decision, and it is by the way and i don't care who agrees or doesn't agree , it's a unwise move, period.

I happen to be very satisfied with life , i work hard and never think i'm entitled to anything so please be more careful with your words , i said i was disappointed thats all , others have said they would be as well , do your words apply to them.
 
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I would have just given the sample for a first time purchase. 3 cents isn't very much. But I can't really fault Mt. Baker either. The threshold is $15, and you didn't meet it. If I were you, I'd order more only if I liked the juice, and make sure I hit $15 each order.

As far as no one else giving free samples, that is just plain wrong. Most vendors don't give out a 15ml bottle, especially with every order. But many give samples. The Vapor Room gives out 15mls with your first purchase and 3ml bottles after that. AltCig, Mr. Vape, And Maddcatt Vapors give a free sample with every order. Those are just off the top of my head. There are many more.
 
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Oh, for Pete's sake.

MBV's already ultra-cheap, they offer one million flavors, and they provide superfast shipping to boot. Their fan base is mammoth. Why on earth should this established, popular company hand out freebies with every weensy little order? I don't even like their product, and even I think this is completely out of line.

:facepalm:

But then, I don't understand this crazy sense of entitlement Americans seem to have. It's just incredibly weird to me, and it seems to be getting worse every day.
 

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Buyers market, make your move.

^^^ Somebody gets it. ;) It sure is, by the way.


But to the OP, I'm sure Mt. Baker, having the great prices they do, could not continue to offer such great deals if they were also giving out free sample bottles willy nilly, 3 cents here, 5 cents there, you know, there has to be a cut-off point and they have probably coded that into the ordering software.

More overhead costs and it gets passed on to us, the customer.
 

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I think I'm going to straddle the fence a little on this one.

I think there is nothing wrong with the OP having the feeling he does about the transaction, and sharing it.

But I also think as the thread has gone on - well, it really is a bit much.

Here's my reasoning -

Mt Baker has a reasonably good reputation, I'd call their prices very competitive, if not downright cheap. They provide all the mixing options you could reasonably want on most flavors. Their "expensive" Gwar juice is still only $10.99 for 30ml. The fact that they do the 15ml samples with only a $15 order is amazing to me - maybe I don't shop around enough. I placed my first order with them today, and am amazed to realize that I paid 14.95 for 30ml of so-so juice from a local B&M this weekend, while from Mt Baker I'll be getting 75ml of juice for just over twenty bucks, shipped.

I can understand why you are upset they didn't throw in 3 more pennies, but if you'd bumped up one of your bottles to 30ml, that would have cost you $2.50 more and netted you 30ml more juice (15ml on the flavor you bumped, and then the 15ml sample) - which is pretty darn good no matter how you look at it.

I get that you didn't realize the situation, and I do agree that it would have been a nice gesture on their part.

But I think continuing to harp on not getting the free $5 bottle of juice that you didn't meet the conditions to get is at least as offputting as them not kicking it in, though I may be somewhat biased by the fact that I find their sample policy to be so darn generous in the first place.

Edit: just some very minor rewording
 
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Wait, somebody gives a free 15 milly with their order? And all you have to spend is 15 smackers? Holy smokes batman, count me in!!

I have the memory of an elephant, or is that an Orca? Anywho, I will not be making that 3 penny mistake, you can bet on it!

Thanks for making this thread. Sorry, you got slighted--I'd be a little ...... too, but also embarassed.

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I think you're all missing what he was getting at....lol

He was only asking for a small sample. of a hawksauce. I am giving him the benefit of the doubt that he didn't know about the 15.00 spending to get a 15ml bottle of free juice. Heck I didn't even know about it the first time I ordered from them.

I usally just order one 30ml bottle at a time with vendors and when I first started vaping, I would always put in the comment box asking if possible to get a small sample...

I know back in 2010 when I attempted to vape, there was one company who put the 5ml samples in with my 30ml bottle, and to this day they still do.
 

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I think you're all missing what he was getting at....lol

He was only asking for a small sample. of a hawksauce. I am giving him the benefit of the doubt that he didn't know about the 15.00 spending to get a 15ml bottle of free juice. Heck I didn't even know about it the first time I ordered from them.

I usally just order one 30ml bottle at a time with vendors and when I first started vaping, I would always put in the comment box asking if possible to get a small sample...

I know back in 2010 when I attempted to vape, there was one company who put the 5ml samples in with my 30ml bottle, and to this day they still do.

I can't speak for everyone else, but I totally get all that, and I'm certainly not intending to dogpile on the guy.

But the value factor with MBV just seems so very, very, uncommonly high - in the end them not nudging him over $15 and him complaining about it cancel each other out to me. Yes, lots of vendors throw in samples, it's a common practice and reasonable to ask for, but for MBV it seems to be a big part of their brand identity - a free 15ml when you spend $15... He didn't know, and it's unfortunate - but it's only *just* unfortunate enough to qualify for that word, IMO.
 

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Seriously? You're whining about a free sample you didn't get? Can't see you as a spoiled brat, sorry, not nitpicking.

They don't have to give samples at all, it's something they generously do. And for someone to complain that they didn't get something that they didn't buy is ridiculous.
I agree.

And it's not just free samples, either.

I can't even count the number of recent threads with titles like "I Hate China," in which some angry little person goes on a three paragraph rant because his $11 FastTech clone isn't as good as the $240 original. Or the guy who's throwing a major fit because some juice costing 47 cents a gallon doesn't taste like ambrosia from heaven, or didn't arrive before tea time of the same day.

:unsure:

What's with people nowadays?
 

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No other company even gives out FREE bottles...

You've ordered from all the hundreds/thousands of juice-makers out there? :blink:


If you had, you'd know that my exclusive juice supplier automatically throws in a free sample with every order, regardless of $ amount..

Granted, it's only 7.5ml (I measured), but sometimes they'll also just upgrade a 15ml or two up to 30ml each...


You can even request a particular flavor & nic strength for your free sample, and 9 times out of 10, you'll get exactly that..

Give 'em 2 possible flavor choices, and 10 times out of 10 you'll get it -- or both!
 
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