Really need to stop smoking but dunno what to get :(

[KillesterBob]

Hi guys

I purchased "Similar Smokeless" cigerettes on an aeroplane recently and found them really bad.

I've tried cold turkey a few times and failed miserably. The Nicorette Inhaler is the latest thing I've tried and it's absolutely disgusting and leaves a horrible groggy taste when exhaling.

I really want to try an e-cig but any I have "tested" before (via friends/family etc) haven't really did it for me.

I'm pretty sure If I can find an e-cig that if I can feel the vapour hitting the back of my throat when I inhale, then I can at long last replace smoking with something else. But none Ive tried before did this.

Im only 27 and have a horrible smokers cough and want to stop smoking really badly but I just cant seem to do it because nothing comes close to that feeling when I feel the smoke hitting the back of my throat.

Can any e-cigs provide this feeling for me?(and of course supply nicotine)

Thanks in advane

-Bob

 

[dormouse]

Sounds like you need a fat battery model - they can use low resistance atomizers and cartomizers for a hotter hit and heat increases the TH of nicotine.

Go to Liberty-flights.com
Click the 20% off in the upper left (I had to use Internet Explorer to see it)
Click Riva 510 on the left
And look at the Riva Lite bundle - excellent deal

You could also buy a 510 drip tip there for dripping
And buy some eliquid to start (may be harsh if 100% PG but you need some to start - get 20-30ml - there are lots of real juice vendors to buy your future juices at which will likely be a PG/VG blend)

And pick up some Boge standard resistance and LR cartomizers elsewhere (like LiteCigUSA.net)

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Alternative - if you are dead set against a fat battery, then ignore everything I said above and go to Vapor4Life and look at their standard manual battery models. Manual for more control of your hit and safer from getting killed by juice drips. Their model (KR808D-1, also found in plain colors at LiteCigUSA.net) has a 3.7 volts battery and gives hotter hits than most other slim models. You will also need eliquid for topping off the cartomizers and you may need an extra charger for at work or a PCC case for recharging on the go. You will also be able to use blank Vapor4Life cartomizers and KR808D-1 standard resistance ones from other places.

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I vape both. 510 threading is the most supported 3-piece threading and it can be used as a 2-piece with mainly blank cartomizers (very small selection of prefilled). KR808D-1 is the most supported 2-piece threading, good number of prefilled and blank cartomizers, and it can be used as a 3-piece with DSE901 parts. The battery of the Riva would last about 2.5 times as long.

 

[KillesterBob]

Very informative response, thank you.

Right now though - I'm off to read up on "Juice drips"

 

[radplane]

Imo starting off you want to keep it simple. Theres so many extra options out there, its crazy. I had best luck starting off with a big battery and cartomizers (Around $2 each, so helps at the beginning with keeping a good atomizer).

 

[dormouse]

Here's about juice drips

Most people soon get annoyed using a cartridge on an atomizer - you need to add juice a lot, it can dump juice in your mouth etc
So most people end up favoring dripping and/or using cartomizers (and some use tanks on special Ego atomizers which Riva can use)

Dripping - atomizer on battery, drip tip on atomizer, drip a couple drops in, vape it, drip again, vape it (no cart at all). Some people like to mainly drip, some do it occasionally or to test new juices. Sometimes juice can leak through the atomizer to the end of the battery.

Cartomizers - a disposable all-in-one juice cart and atomizer that holds more juice and doesn't need juice added as often (if kept damp you can get 4-7 days use or more out of one). They are great. But they do have a hole in the middle of the threaded end where the air comes in when you vape. No matter how careful you are with refilling, occasionally some juice will drip out the bottom hole of the cartomizer and that hole is right above the drag sensor in an auto battery. Kill or gum up the sensor and you have killed an auto battery. The KR8 manuals also have a hole in the end but are not dependent on a drag sensor there. I've have a number of small leaks and have not killed one. The 510-threaded manuals are totally sealed metal on the threaded end.

 

[Chrissie]

Hello & welcome Bob

Lol, I've heard the Similar Smokless "cigarettes" are completely hopeless. As you already know, they aren't an electronic cigarette.

As Dormouse says go to Liberty Flights, but the UK site, not .com seeing as you are in Dublin I think their Riva 510 would really suite you. The UK site doesn't have the 20% off tab that Dormouse mentions, but if you enter the code ECR69 at check out, you will get a 15% discount. Here is a link to Liberty Flights UK Riva 510 :-

Electronic Cigarette - Starter Kits - Riva 510

You will also need to order some e-liquid with that starter kit. We need to know a bit more about your smoking habit to advise you which strength e-liquid to go for.

But yes, a good e-cig like the Riva & a good e-liquid will provide the feeling & the nicotine that you need

 

[KillesterBob]

Hi Chrissie,

I smoke a 20 pack of Mayfair Smooth(7mg Tar // 0.6 mg Nicotine) per day. Or a pack in a few hours if I'm out at the weekend.

This was more to reduce my horrible phlegmy cough in the mornings though, previous to June 2009, I smoked Embassy Number 1.

I'm still trying to understand the differences between VG and PG and what would suit me more etc - and of course I am extremlely delighted to find out that dormouse's "drips killing" statement is actually refering to the batteries and not me!!

I'm having a look at those starter packs now and am I correct in saying that the starter pack is not enough? I need to buy more stuff for it (not much of a start p[ack then eh )

 

[Sugar_and_Spice]

Hello,
A starter kit usually contains everything you need to get started, but what if you don't like the ejuice they send. My guess is you won't want to use it. Kits usually have 2 batteries, 2 attys, 2 carts and some kind of juice. You may want to order additional juice in a flavor you may think you would like. A good mix is 50/50 of pg/vg as most people don't seem to have problems with that.

sas

 

[tsbrewers]

Hi Chrissie,

I smoke a 20 pack of Mayfair Smooth(7mg Tar // 0.6 mg Nicotine) per day. Or a pack in a few hours if I'm out at the weekend.

Personally i would recommend the 24mg juice. I think it is probably the most common for people just starting. It could be a little strong but it is easy to make it weaker, or not to vape as much.

This was more to reduce my horrible phlegmy cough in the mornings though, previous to June 2009, I smoked Embassy Number 1.

Even though it hasn't happened to me, you will get that for a short time after starting to use ecigs. It is your lungs trying to get rid of the junk from smoking. It will go away after a short time.

I'm still trying to understand the differences between VG and PG and what would suit me more etc - and of course I am extremlely delighted to find out that dormouse's "drips killing" statement is actually refering to the batteries and not me!!

Don't feel bad, I laughed when I read that too. I knew it sounded like it would kill you.

PG tends to be a little thinner and helps with giving a little more throat hit. It also allows the flavor of the juice to come through better. VG is quite a bit thicker, will give more vapor, but tones down the flavor of the juice more. I think most people use anywhere from 50/50 up to about 80/20 PG/VG. Some people's bodies do not like the pg and they must use all or mostly vg. Not real common though

I'm having a look at those starter packs now and am I correct in saying that the starter pack is not enough? I need to buy more stuff for it (not much of a start p[ack then eh )

as already said, it is a starter pack. It will get you through a short period, then you will need more juice normally. Depending on the starter pack, it really can last you a while. I bought my ego-t starter pack 2 months ago and the only other thing I have needed was juice. But if it works for you, the starter pack most likely will turn in to an obsession and you will have 10 other devices in a very short time.

anyway, I hope that helps, keep asking if you have more questions.

 

[mwa102464]

For as much as you would normally spend on cigarettes dont be affraid to buy yourself a nice Mod. One of the biggest reason people quit vaping is because they are not satisfied with there original purchase and then they think it is just no good because they bought a Bunk E-Cig. Spend some cash and get yourself something nice, there are plenty of nice ones, Reo Grand, Provari, Darwin, VV Ali'i , Buzz, Omega, quite a few good quality PV's on the market today, even a Higher mAh Ego like the 1000mAh Ego would be a decent start with a good LR Atty. Key is good Batt power matched with a good Atty period in order to provide a good vape, juice is a whole another story and finding your daily vape juices could also take you a while.

 

[KillesterBob]

I have been looking around at some Riva 510 packs and have saw the price much cheaper elsewhere but the terminology used seems to be "510" with no mention of Riva.

Are these copies and not official Riva products?

 

[Sugar_and_Spice]

Hi again. Liberty-flights has a riva 510 kit for $29.99 + 2.99 shipping after you hit the 20% off link at the top of their page. don't think you could get much cheaper than that.
510 refers only to the threads on a battery. There are several models that have 510 threads. ie. The reg 510 battery which is 180 mah---which means you only get 2-3 hours between charges. If you smoke heavy this is a pita. The 510 Riva is a fatter battery a 750 mah, which holds the charge around 8-9 hours, so it is more convenient. Joye eGo(same 510 threads) have batteries that are 650mah, 900mah, 1000mah. The 510 (the threading on the battery) means parts are interchangeable except where noted on the websites.
Hope this helps.

sas
Here is a link to the UK store for Liberty-flights.....They offer 2 versions. The SE and Lite bundle.
http://www.liberty-flights.co.uk/product.asp?id=78

 

[KillesterBob]

Ok, Im going to buy the Riva 510 special addition here - > Electronic Cigarette - Starter Kits - Riva 510

I guess I need me some help on deciding on e liquids though, can I have some recommendations or type/ml and pg/vg/xo

How much of it should I buy?

Thanks again guys, you are so much help

 

[MickeyRat]

I can't agree with that at all. You're a lot better off with Riva or eGo. Those little batteries SUCK!!!

 

[Chrissie]

Completely agrees wit MickeyRat.

Bob, sorry for the delay in getting back to you. If I was you I would go for a few small bottles of 50/50 mix in different flavours & at maybe a medium to high strength to begin with. My favourite UK e-liquid supplier is Paradise Vapes -
Paradise Vape UK
James' juices are mainly mixed using his friend's, Dawn-Marie's recipes from DIY Flavour Shack.

 

[Krisb]

Basically, most juice vendors give you the option of different pg/vg ratios. Pg will give you more flavor and more th (throat hit), whereas vg gives you more vapor. I tend to go with a 50/50 blend as a like a lit of flavor and I just need that vapor!

As far as starting with ego/Riva, good place to start, but as mwa said if this does not satisfy there are mods. If you find that ecigs are for you and you like your ego/Riva but just wish it were a bit more...there are so many more levels! Many people start with egos and are quite happy to stay there, but many, like me, just find them lacking. I have the Darwin and its battery lasts 2days, has a consistent vape from freshly charged to dead and is adjustable via a little wheel to increase the wattage of vape.

Going with the Riva/ego, they use 510 threads which most mods do also, so all your attys and cartos can be used with any 510 battery. Good luck!

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[DC2]

I guess I need me some help on deciding on e liquids though, can I have some recommendations or type/ml and pg/vg/xo

How much of it should I buy?

You're never going to know what PG/VG ratio you like best until you try a few.
And you're not going to know for sure the best nicotine strength for you until you get started.
And you're certainly not going to know what flavors you like and which ones you don't until you try them.

Therefore, the best suggestion anyone can get when starting out is to try and get some variety in small sample sizes.
Get some different PG/VG ratios, maybe a two different nicotine strengths, and at least a couple different flavors.

As far as nicotine strength goes, you sound like you'll probably need something around 18mg or maybe 24mg.
So naturally, I would suggest getting at some of both.

 

[Para]

The key for me was, and still is, high nicotine content. 24mg and 36mg finally allowed me to put down cigarettes. I still get cravings for one so I keep the ejuices handy. I had hoped the cravings would have ceased by now, but they haven't.