Recycling Vapor & Saving Money

[spacenoob]

Hey guys & gals;

Long time reader, first time poster. I apologize if this has been talked about already, but nothing came up in my search.

I'm trying my best to bring down the monthly cost of my E-cigs, trying different atomizers and juice blends, etc. I currently use an E-go Twist with low res 306 atomizers (with bridges) that I drip with (mostly 50/50 liquid). I used to use low res 510 cartomizers (similar to Boge, but off-brand), and I would go through them way too quickly - not to mention the flavor is extremely muted.

I think my setup would be perfect for the occasional vaper, but I vape almost all day every day (I work from home and have been tobacco free for a little over 6 months).

Sometimes when I'm drinking water while vaping, I exhale the vapor into my glass and occasionally I'll breathe it back in - getting a second hit from the same vape.

I'm wondering if you guys do the same, and if you think its a good or bad idea.

Do you think we're wasting the liquid by breathing all that vapor out? If so, then how many times should you breathe in the same vapor before it's not worth it anymore?

Another way to do this would be to exhale into a bag and then breathe it back in. (not very appealing)

Also, if you have any other suggestions for saving money on atomizers or liquid, please let me know

Maybe I just need to find a cheaper liquid/atomizer vendor or start mixing my own liquid.

spacenoob

 

[vappour]

Bit late for April 1st isn't it?

On the other hand if on the 1% chance you are serious, I suggest you go see a doctor!

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[Off Topic]

If you want to save money. Go DIY.

I get flavor concentrates from smokeforpennys.com. It has the flavor/sweetener mixed together. I just add nic, pg and vg to get it where I want it. It was a lot of cash up front, but in the long run, it's dirt cheap.

 

[Off Topic]

Some people use cartos and clean them when they start tasting funky.

I just toss my cartos after a week or so. I'm lazy.

 

[spacenoob]

If you want to save money. Go DIY.

I get flavor concentrates from smokeforpennys.com. It has the flavor/sweetener mixed together. I just add nic, pg and vg to get it where I want it. It was a lot of cash up front, but in the long run, it's dirt cheap.

I think this is what I'll have to do. Thanks for the info :]

Was it hard to learn how to mix it?

Bit late for April 1st isn't it?

On the other hand if on the 1% chance you are serious, I suggest you go see a doctor!

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I'll make an appointment as soon as I can. Thanks for your insight.

 

[AttyPops]

Some things to save $$ but they do unfortunately take minor up-front investment:
1) The DIY e-juice thing like OT said.
2) Use a rebuildable tank, like the Vivi Nova

Juice costs can be less that 20 cents per ml with DIY. A new coil is about 10 cents with a V.N. if you get the wire and wick materials and wrap it yourself. (that's someone else's estimate). They are also easily cleaned.

If you don't want to go the V.N. route... try an atomizer and dripping. Least juice waste, atomizer should last at least a month with cleaning. Also, avoid overly dark or overly high VG juices... both gunk up coils faster.

Lastly, 3) invest in a mod with swappable batteries and a battery charger. The batteries are like $5.00 each then.

 

[CGlassford]

I think there was a discussion a long time ago about how much/little nicotine was actually still in the vapor after exhaling. It was more of a topic about "second hand vape". I wouldn't think there would be enough to make it worth the trouble.

 

[spacenoob]

Some things to save $$ but they do unfortunately take minor up-front investment:
1) The DIY e-juice thing like OT said.
2) Use a rebuildable tank, like the Vivi Nova

Juice costs can be less that 20 cents per ml with DIY. A new coil is about 10 cents with a V.N. if you get the wire and wick materials and wrap it yourself. (that's someone else's estimate). They are also easily cleaned.

If you don't want to go the V.N. route... try an atomizer and dripping. Least juice waste, atomizer should last at least a month with cleaning. Also, avoid overly dark or overly high VG juices... both gunk up coils faster.

Lastly, 3) invest in a mod with swappable batteries and a battery charger. The batteries are like $5.00 each then.

Wow, I like the sound of those prices!

I have been interested in the vivi nova but i've heard good and bad things. I might have to just try it out and see how it goes.

My favorite flavor so far is French Vanilla (which is a very dark and thick juice) - is it possible to find that flavor in PG form, or is it the flavor that makes it thick?

I have the Ego Twist - which I am a huge fan of (regulated variable voltage is awesome!). How would something like the provari benefit me over what I have?

Thanks for the awesome tips, AttyPops :]

I think there was a discussion a long time ago about how much/little nicotine was actually still in the vapor after exhaling. It was more of a topic about "second hand vape". I wouldn't think there would be enough to make it worth the trouble.

That's what I was afraid of. I'll try to find that topic. Thanks!

 

[spacenoob]

Just in case anyone else was curious about this, I found this quote. Not sure about how trustworthy it is, but it's enough to convince me not to recycle the vapor :]

"Inhaled nicotine in cigarette smoke is over 98% absorbed 6, and so the exhaled mist of the e-cigarette is composed of propylene glycol, and probably contains almost no nicotine;"

 

[AttyPops]

If you can afford ask about a provari (one of the best e-cigs IMO) you don't need my tips on saving $$$. lol.

The tanks and RBA's are normally not recommended to newbies... but in the case of being broke and saving $$, it can pay off with perseverance and patience. The 2.5 version (or later?) is not a problem. Most of those complaining are pushing other tanks and/or frustrated newbies (IMO. Let the rants begin! ) There's very little to go wrong with them... and they are a tinkerer's dream for $15.00. You can buy stock heads for ?IDK...$3.00? too if you don't want to wrap your own. Make sure you avoid knock-offs which are a source of complaints.

See the vendor list on the 1st page. Many sell DIY supplies including flavorings...french vanilla included. The one I have is PG based and is light yellow (but turns most e-juice red/orange/pink. lol)

Also see the DIY section and read up:
DIY E-Liquid

 

[klynnn]

I am into cost efficiency, but reusing vapor is a bit much for me. The diy route is the way to go.

 

[spacenoob]

If you can afford ask about a provari (one of the best e-cigs IMO) you don't need my tips on saving $$$. lol.

The tanks and RBA's are normally not recommended to newbies... but in the case of being broke and saving $$, it can pay off with perseverance and patience. The 2.5 version (or later?) is not a problem. Most of those complaining are pushing other tanks and/or frustrated newbies (IMO. Let the rants begin! ) There's very little to go wrong with them... and they are a tinkerer's dream for $15.00. You can buy stock heads for ?IDK...$3.00? too if you don't want to wrap your own. Make sure you avoid knock-offs which are a source of complaints.

See the vendor list on the 1st page. Many sell DIY supplies including flavorings...french vanilla included. The one I have is PG based and is light yellow (but turns most e-juice red/orange/pink. lol)

Also see the DIY section and read up:
DIY E-Liquid

Thanks for the info & link! I've learned a lot from this thread. I'm not sure if I would classify myself as a tinkerer, so maybe its not for me. I might try anyway since it's not too expensive and could potentially save me money.

Yes the provari is expensive, and yes I am asking how to save money, but if there is a good enough reason to use a provari over my Ego Twist then please let me know. I'm not poor, I just want to reduce my monthly spending on this endeavor. Especially because I vape so much.

Does the provari make atomizers last longer than my Ego Twist? The only problem I've noticed with the Twist is that after dropping it more than a few times, it has come apart slightly where the battery connects to the button/510 connection (fixed by pushing it back into place). But I see that as a personal problem and not a problem with the device. I just need to be more careful :]

Again, thanks for your replies! I really appreciate it.

 

[dirtyrigger]

I'll exhale my hits into a glass of ice water, occasionally re-hitting it. But that's just an old hooka trick i learned back in the day, it kinda looks cool just chillin in the glass, no other reason.

 

[napdog]

Bit late for April 1st isn't it?

On the other hand if on the 1% chance you are serious, I suggest you go see a doctor!

 

[AttyPops]

It's all trade-offs.

1) The provari... I really don't know of many/any unhappy provari owners. Voltage/amps are not created equal across all e-cigs. That said, the Twist batteries are 25.00 and are just fine. They may break... but you'd have to break about 10 of em to approach the cost of the provari. Also I'd be afraid of paying that much and losing it/breaking it. However, if you check the provari specific area in APV discussions you'll find that they all recommend it. In fact, it has many great features and is designed/built well. I take the "cheap sunglasses" route ...because I sit on or lose the expensive ones . The provari will put out the amps you need, has a swappable battery, will tell you the ohms of the atty/carto, has over-amp/short protection. Will it change the vaping experience with the same carto? Probably not (you can adjust it and the twist...probably can get identical performance by adjusting one or the other -/+ .1 volts). It would be better for dual-coil stuff due to its ability to put out more amps (I think...check specs).

2) You don't HAVE to be a tinkerer to use a Vivi Nova. Just get the standard replacable heads for $2.80 or whatever. The thing is...with tanks of all kinds, or RBAs.... you kinda have to have some experience with e-cigs to know how they work, what works well, and most importantly....when it does something you don't like...what's wrong and why. It's just experience. Which is why I (and others) say "Get good at one or two things for a few months". When you know what works...then you know what "vape to chase".

3) Juice. The vendors put a lot of effort into making recipes that they consider top notch. DIY will save money. It won't necessarily get you the best "pickle chiffon pie" flavor.

Vanilla...you can DIY. Other recipes...depends. See DIY section. (Hint: try Lime with a drop of tart-and-sour added in for DIY.)

So it's all trade offs. I'm broke. So I go with savings 1st...mostly. Others, not so much. You can get some good deals just by watching the sales and learning how to care for equipment will increase it's life.

 

[damthisisfun]

How about using a straw and exhaling in a 2 liter empty bottle. Re-inhale. May work. I thought very little nico was absorbed compared to cigs and most is exhaled - but maybe it oxidizes into something else...........who knows......

 

[CommaHolly]

oh my god, even my husband isn't this cheap

He only makes me breathe the vapor in once,,,,,,,,,,,,oy vey.

 

[AttyPops]

Just had to add a note about the re-inhale thing.......

It's OK to use a bag/bottle and re-inhale IF YOU'RE HYPERVENTILATING....then you need the higher carbon dioxide. Otherwise...a glass is probably a bit safer...but in general....be smart and skip it. Or watch "Apollo 13" 1st and understand/research what excessive CO2 levels get you.....

Most of us, being former smokes, could probably use all the oxygen we can get. Just say'n. Not that it is probably even close to the effect we had with CO and cigs...but WHY?

(I think the OP was joking a bit and/or making conversation...I hope.)

 

[damthisisfun]

If it is reusable/recyclable - why not? Lmao

 

[kerswills]

VIVI novas are ok. Replacing the head is better than buying a new set up.

DIY is a nice way to save money and can be quite the hobby. Not all french vanilla flavorings are dark or thick. You will have to find the one you like. There are some great DIY vendors out there. Wizardlabs, onestopdiyshop, ecigexpress, and so on. Most of them have DIY Kits you can buy that have everything you need including flavors to get started for 30-40 dollars.

I do not see how a provari (great device btw) will help you save money over the eGo you already have.

Good luck

Wow, I like the sound of those prices!

I have been interested in the vivi nova but i've heard good and bad things. I might have to just try it out and see how it goes.

My favorite flavor so far is French Vanilla (which is a very dark and thick juice) - is it possible to find that flavor in PG form, or is it the flavor that makes it thick?

I have the Ego Twist - which I am a huge fan of (regulated variable voltage is awesome!). How would something like the provari benefit me over what I have?

Thanks for the awesome tips, AttyPops :]




That's what I was afraid of. I'll try to find that topic. Thanks!