Ive been dripping almost exclusively and have gotten the hang of it. How many drop do you put in when ur dripping? I never put more than 2, which avoids the flooding issue. I havent flooded an atomizer in months. The only time I put more (like 3 drops) is when I clean it.
Refill War: Cartomizer vs. Cartridge - weigh in and throw down
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I drip. Once I dripped I couldn't use a cart or carto anymore. Cleaner flavor, stronger draw, better all the way around. I get that it isn't convenient for some users and some situations, but I can't go back. Drip or die!
I haven't tried any significant cartridge mods like foam or PTB, but in my experience cartomizers win hands down. They hold much more juice, the flavor tends to be a little better, the filler holds up for longer before it needs cleaning or replacement, and there is substantially less fiddling and topping off. The only competition to cartos in my book is direct dripping, which probably does produce a little bit more consistency in terms of flavor and performance, but is still a bit more of a hassle and I find atomizers inherently a little more finicky than cartos. In the end, cartomizers handily win out for me.
I started on cartomizers, and had nothing else, a carto baby right off. The first company I dealt with had serious burning issues, and I mean prefilled cartos (plenty time to prime atomizer and wick) would give burnt within the first few hits and I know better than to draw it dry. Second company was much better for the most part only had burnt taste at end, but still had to refrain a lot because if you puffed too hard it just couldn't wick fast enough... *shrugs*
In any case they were convenient as hell and I had no intention of switch to anything else that would take more of my time. Then I ordered the roughstack V2 kit and to my disappointment it was a 3-piece... attys, carts and battery... put in an order right off for some 2.5 ohm 510 Boge Cartos... in the mean time I'm like "Oh well lets give these atty's a try"
Hallaluja... clean taste... NO burnt taste eva (or xtra flavor haha)... and I know many ppl swear they almost never get burnt taste but my thing is, most of us smoked analogs for decades... ummm taste buds anyone? Anyone?
In any case, I can see the filler in the carts, and it's NOT burning... and I haven't had a burnt/off flavor even once since I started atty/carts. Serious, I would implore ppl to take apart (it's easy) and take a look at a bunch of those spent cartomizers before throwing them out... not because I'm right and your wrong, because I think what's at stake is worth the time.
As far as being easier, hmmm... only because carto's hold more, but flip side carts are easier to fill and easier to check and I can also carry extra and switch out while I'm driving. BUT... what puts carts way above cartos for me? The no worry and wonder factor whether I'm smoking poly all day every day is priceless... hoping I'm not isn't good enough... knowing is the bottom line.
That said, I'm probably still going to try those carto's I ordered, heard they're supposed to be better then most cartos... but not today
Oh look, my first novel... sry about that
In any case they were convenient as hell and I had no intention of switch to anything else that would take more of my time. Then I ordered the roughstack V2 kit and to my disappointment it was a 3-piece... attys, carts and battery... put in an order right off for some 2.5 ohm 510 Boge Cartos... in the mean time I'm like "Oh well lets give these atty's a try"
Hallaluja... clean taste... NO burnt taste eva (or xtra flavor haha)... and I know many ppl swear they almost never get burnt taste but my thing is, most of us smoked analogs for decades... ummm taste buds anyone? Anyone?
In any case, I can see the filler in the carts, and it's NOT burning... and I haven't had a burnt/off flavor even once since I started atty/carts. Serious, I would implore ppl to take apart (it's easy) and take a look at a bunch of those spent cartomizers before throwing them out... not because I'm right and your wrong, because I think what's at stake is worth the time.
As far as being easier, hmmm... only because carto's hold more, but flip side carts are easier to fill and easier to check and I can also carry extra and switch out while I'm driving. BUT... what puts carts way above cartos for me? The no worry and wonder factor whether I'm smoking poly all day every day is priceless... hoping I'm not isn't good enough... knowing is the bottom line.
That said, I'm probably still going to try those carto's I ordered, heard they're supposed to be better then most cartos... but not today
Oh look, my first novel... sry about that
I've been using a 3 piece system for almost a month now. My friends all use cartomizers, and I hate to say it, but I am sold. My reasons are all to do with flavor, cost, and ease of use.
I take a puff off of my friends' and the flavor is just amazing, even with the same juices, even after extended use. I'm going to admit that much of this probably has to do with the fact that I'm pretty new to all of this and my atomizers are pretty much done. But as far as cost goes, burning out an atomizer is more expensive than wrecking cartomizers. For overzealous beginners, that is a huge plus!
My next point is that their cartos last longer than my cartridges as I don't have the time nor the energy to go through all of the little tips and tricks to keep the cartridge and atomizer going for extended periods.
Oh, and they typically only need to refill theirs once a day, while I am constantly refilling mine.
A lot of analog smokers watch me have to fumble with adding a few drops and get very turned off by the whole idea. The lack of convenience makes dripping a non-issue for me as well. I'm not even willing to try.
If I want to stay off of analogs I need flavor and convenience. This weekend I am purchasing a pack of cartos for my 510's and when those batteries go, I'm probably switching brands altogether. My current setup was good for what it was, but once you burn out those atomizers it's vaping hell. And that is what I'm stuck with till payday.
Just a little perspective from a newbie. Maybe with more experience the choice wouldn't be quite so clear cut, but as it stands right now cartomizers are the way to go for me.
I take a puff off of my friends' and the flavor is just amazing, even with the same juices, even after extended use. I'm going to admit that much of this probably has to do with the fact that I'm pretty new to all of this and my atomizers are pretty much done. But as far as cost goes, burning out an atomizer is more expensive than wrecking cartomizers. For overzealous beginners, that is a huge plus!
My next point is that their cartos last longer than my cartridges as I don't have the time nor the energy to go through all of the little tips and tricks to keep the cartridge and atomizer going for extended periods.
Oh, and they typically only need to refill theirs once a day, while I am constantly refilling mine.
A lot of analog smokers watch me have to fumble with adding a few drops and get very turned off by the whole idea. The lack of convenience makes dripping a non-issue for me as well. I'm not even willing to try.
If I want to stay off of analogs I need flavor and convenience. This weekend I am purchasing a pack of cartos for my 510's and when those batteries go, I'm probably switching brands altogether. My current setup was good for what it was, but once you burn out those atomizers it's vaping hell. And that is what I'm stuck with till payday.
Just a little perspective from a newbie. Maybe with more experience the choice wouldn't be quite so clear cut, but as it stands right now cartomizers are the way to go for me.
I mostly use cartos, occasionally carts when switching between a few juices for my weekend smorgasbord, or drip a favorite when going to be sitting at 'puter without jumping up and down to do chores etc. I also drip when I get new juices or am adjusting one I made. I don't burn cartos nor the filler, as 3 have lasted me over a month and it's quick and easy to wash them- only the drying takes time, which is why I switch between them and the devices they work/taste best on. I've lost once carto and two attys in 56 days but two cartos are about to get tossed only because they are not lasting but a day or two between cleanings.
I think everyone should do what they like best, or any combo thereof because if we cared about what crowds decide, we'd still be on analogs.
I think everyone should do what they like best, or any combo thereof because if we cared about what crowds decide, we'd still be on analogs.
I haven't read the entire thread, I just don't have the time to. Two quick points. If you use a cartomizer you really should consider a carto tank. It keeps the filler nice and wet all day long. I've dissected many old carto's from tanks and I get no burning of the filler at all. I do see very minor discoloration on the sleeve that surrounds the coil itself. Sometimes, even a tiny burn mark. It is, however, a very, very small spot. In conjunction with a larger battery mod, the convenience of leaving the house in the morning and not having to worry about power or juice has made vaping even easier than carrying around a pack of smelly cigarettes with a lighter.
Yea, I started reading the thread and got to the "oh look a butterfly" thing as I went on...my attention span is just nigh of that of an 8 year old.
I started out with the 3 piece carts and attys. Tried dripping...ended up with juice all over the battery, the table, my shirt, the dog and the kitchen sink. Went back to carts and attys. Tried the Fluval Foam stuff...worked somewhat better, but still ended up tired of refilling every 30 minutes.
Tried dripping again. 3 drops and 3 puffs was the rule I read...ended up with juice all over the battery, the desk, my computer and my shoes...
Then one magical day someone PIFd me some cartos. I read up on them and loved them. The "fiddle factor" was much less, the vapor much better, the taste was better...I was sold.
I surfed over to some web stores and ordered some CE2 Rev 5 clearos...even better than the regular cartos I tried. Especially when modded.
Tried some DCCs that were PIFd to me...loved 'em. Then I bought my eGo-Ts with the 1000Mah batts. Tried the tanks...loved the lower "fiddle factor" hated the taste and vapor. Tried a "tank mod" that requires punching another hole in the tank...leaked even worse than dripping. Juice got all over me again.
Tried dripping again...2 drops, 3 puffs...first puff was good...then juice all over everything again.
Now I'm in love with the EMDCC on my eGoT batts. TH is insane, vapes clouds...tastes wonderful. Thus far I haven't found anything better. I have Fluxomizers enroute to try and a VV box mod to try them on...but thus far the EMDCCs are the absolute best vape bar none!!
By the way...some folks just don't get the simplest things...I suppose that's me and dripping. I have yet to make it work and am absolutely sick of trying it. I will not try anymore.
I started out with the 3 piece carts and attys. Tried dripping...ended up with juice all over the battery, the table, my shirt, the dog and the kitchen sink. Went back to carts and attys. Tried the Fluval Foam stuff...worked somewhat better, but still ended up tired of refilling every 30 minutes.
Tried dripping again. 3 drops and 3 puffs was the rule I read...ended up with juice all over the battery, the desk, my computer and my shoes...
Then one magical day someone PIFd me some cartos. I read up on them and loved them. The "fiddle factor" was much less, the vapor much better, the taste was better...I was sold.
I surfed over to some web stores and ordered some CE2 Rev 5 clearos...even better than the regular cartos I tried. Especially when modded.
Tried some DCCs that were PIFd to me...loved 'em. Then I bought my eGo-Ts with the 1000Mah batts. Tried the tanks...loved the lower "fiddle factor" hated the taste and vapor. Tried a "tank mod" that requires punching another hole in the tank...leaked even worse than dripping. Juice got all over me again.
Tried dripping again...2 drops, 3 puffs...first puff was good...then juice all over everything again.
Now I'm in love with the EMDCC on my eGoT batts. TH is insane, vapes clouds...tastes wonderful. Thus far I haven't found anything better. I have Fluxomizers enroute to try and a VV box mod to try them on...but thus far the EMDCCs are the absolute best vape bar none!!
By the way...some folks just don't get the simplest things...I suppose that's me and dripping. I have yet to make it work and am absolutely sick of trying it. I will not try anymore.
Something else that needs to be factored in is how you use your cartomiser... carto tanks are increasing in popularity, I've got a number of them myself... but I find that I get 3 to 4 times longer out of a carto thanks to them constantly keeping the carto wet... the perception is, you see, that once the tank is empty, it's empty (of course it isn't there's still about 1ml of juice inside the carto), but the moment you see and empty tank you fill it back up... this pretty much guarantees that your carto is kept moist, and it'll therefore last you far longer.
I have limited patience with cartridges... I do use them on occasion, but in all honesty they don't suit me. Mostly due to the fact that when I vape I chain vape (in bursts), and cartridges can't keep up with that... you soon get dry spots, or bits of filler that start to burn.. and it imparts a flavour on the juice (in my opinion)...
Of the two, I would go with cartos everytime...
I have limited patience with cartridges... I do use them on occasion, but in all honesty they don't suit me. Mostly due to the fact that when I vape I chain vape (in bursts), and cartridges can't keep up with that... you soon get dry spots, or bits of filler that start to burn.. and it imparts a flavour on the juice (in my opinion)...
Of the two, I would go with cartos everytime...
I have been vaping away for two years now. Cartomizers were cool then back to cartidges, onto every known cart mod etc. Dripping, clearomizers, fluxomizers etc.
Now I am back to carts and the original filling, just now with LR atties. It's been months since I couldn't find the hit I was looking for.
Now I am back to carts and the original filling, just now with LR atties. It's been months since I couldn't find the hit I was looking for.
Yes cartos are disposable, they don't last forever (though some who are willing and successful at cleaning them get a bit more life out of them). Their benefits over carts are hold more liquid, generally need liquid less often, more consistent vape, won't dump all of their juice, keep your flavors totally separate, no need to clean atomizers.
I use Vapor4Life WOW carto blanks on KR808D-1 and Boge 510 carto blanks (standard resistance) on 510 manuals and 3.7v large 510-threaded devices.
I start with a pair - one of each. I easily get 2 good weeks of use out of the pair. I can usually get a 3rd week out of the Boge (again - using it 1/2 the time). So if I was only using one that would be 1.5 weeks of use fora Boge and 1 week of use for a V4L. I am a moderate vaper, not a constant vaper.
What I find gives me the most cartomizer life
- Using juices that extend the good performance - I find those are thin juices with 20% or less VG, and only clear juices that do not drop flavoring sediment in the cartomizer stuffing
- Filling well with suitable juice and letting the carto settle on different sides after filling
- Keeping the carto damp by paying attention to the flavor, amount of vapor and any unusual warmth and adding juice as needed
I use Vapor4Life WOW carto blanks on KR808D-1 and Boge 510 carto blanks (standard resistance) on 510 manuals and 3.7v large 510-threaded devices.
I start with a pair - one of each. I easily get 2 good weeks of use out of the pair. I can usually get a 3rd week out of the Boge (again - using it 1/2 the time). So if I was only using one that would be 1.5 weeks of use fora Boge and 1 week of use for a V4L. I am a moderate vaper, not a constant vaper.
What I find gives me the most cartomizer life
- Using juices that extend the good performance - I find those are thin juices with 20% or less VG, and only clear juices that do not drop flavoring sediment in the cartomizer stuffing
- Filling well with suitable juice and letting the carto settle on different sides after filling
- Keeping the carto damp by paying attention to the flavor, amount of vapor and any unusual warmth and adding juice as needed
I'm still a newb, and I've only used cartos, but I like them a lot. I can't compare them to atty's and carts though.
I have found that keeping them wet is THE most important thing to make them extend between fillings. The Taryn spin is very useful for this. If I can fill up a few cartos every 2-3 days, doing the spin to make sure they are very full and then top about once a day (with or without a spin, depending on whether it's convenient), they work very well, and I don't get any burning or dead taste.
Another thing I've found is that sometimes after using the same juice for several refills without a complete clean of the filler, the juice in the filler often gets quite thick and doesn't wick very well. If I add a couple of drops of vodka to the carto before adding more juice it really seems to thin that thick juice build up, and refresh the taste.
Like I said, I'm still a newbie, so I'm sure I've got a lot more to learn, but I like the cartos a lot.
I have found that keeping them wet is THE most important thing to make them extend between fillings. The Taryn spin is very useful for this. If I can fill up a few cartos every 2-3 days, doing the spin to make sure they are very full and then top about once a day (with or without a spin, depending on whether it's convenient), they work very well, and I don't get any burning or dead taste.
Another thing I've found is that sometimes after using the same juice for several refills without a complete clean of the filler, the juice in the filler often gets quite thick and doesn't wick very well. If I add a couple of drops of vodka to the carto before adding more juice it really seems to thin that thick juice build up, and refresh the taste.
Like I said, I'm still a newbie, so I'm sure I've got a lot more to learn, but I like the cartos a lot.
I have had great luck with boge cartos, great draw but plastic taste with orange joyetech, and have ordered 306 attys to go with direct drip for another option (prolly mostly at home).
I think combo is the way to go but I've only been doin this for 10 days and have no experience with attys yet.
I have the eGo and I LOVE vaping. My husband loves me doing it too
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I think combo is the way to go but I've only been doin this for 10 days and have no experience with attys yet.
I have the eGo and I LOVE vaping. My husband loves me doing it too
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The leaking problem with carto's in a tank that you had is due to your using Dual Coils. If you still have the tank, try a LR Boge Carto and thank me in the morning!
The leaking problem with carto's in a tank that you had is due to your using Dual Coils. If you still have the tank, try a LR Boge Carto and thank me in the morning!
No, the leaking was due to the extra hole I punched into the end of the tank. The tanks that come with the T that is...not a "real" tank. The tanks that come with it sit atop an atty with a spike that wicks the juice. I have yet to take the leap into real tanks, but the Liquinator is on my short "to try" list...with a LR Boge for sure!
Amazing the way that vaping has evolved in the two years that this thread has existed.
The old cartridges, mine are all filled with cheese and used as bait in mouse traps. Surprising how well they work.
For many the new carto tanks have been the answer, but I simply can't even imagine being stuck with one flavor in a 3-5ml tank. Same goes for the newer oversized cartos.
The one product that has changed my vaping habits the most is the drip shield. Gone are the days of only one good hit from an atty along with some that were to wet and some to dry. No longer do I have to worry about juice getting all over everything, including me. Hell I can even drip with a 306 or an old 901 now if I want without creating a disaster.
The good part is now we have choices galore. It is no longer just a world of is a carto better than a cart.
The old cartridges, mine are all filled with cheese and used as bait in mouse traps. Surprising how well they work.
For many the new carto tanks have been the answer, but I simply can't even imagine being stuck with one flavor in a 3-5ml tank. Same goes for the newer oversized cartos.
The one product that has changed my vaping habits the most is the drip shield. Gone are the days of only one good hit from an atty along with some that were to wet and some to dry. No longer do I have to worry about juice getting all over everything, including me. Hell I can even drip with a 306 or an old 901 now if I want without creating a disaster.
The good part is now we have choices galore. It is no longer just a world of is a carto better than a cart.
Cheese for the mouse trap...great idea. Wish I hadn't thrown all those used carts out now. Can you imagine what vaping is going to be like a year from now? Or ten years from now?
There have been many issues with the Liquinator. You may want to consider a Lava Tank from Jonboyusmc (if you can get one!!) or the Depth Charge from Vapor-Age. The Liquinator has had many problems with not being tight enough, cracking tubes and, unless you call them on the phone, unresponsive customer service.No, the leaking was due to the extra hole I punched into the end of the tank. The tanks that come with the T that is...not a "real" tank. The tanks that come with it sit atop an atty with a spike that wicks the juice. I have yet to take the leap into real tanks, but the Liquinator is on my short "to try" list...with a LR Boge for sure!
Just my two cents.
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