Regular Atty Drippers (A Dying Breed?)

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Mr.Mann

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I am really glad I found this thread. Thanks for all the help.

You know what? When I read that and a few others that have said the same, I am happy to have made the thread. Maybe we can get some vapers vaping instead of getting twisted up in wires anc caught up in mesh! LOL. I know, I know: rebuilding your own wick is heaven on earth, but I am already part of a dying breed, no need to rush the afterlife. :laugh:
 

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We aren't dead yet. Lol.

Not by a long shot.

Oh, and let me tell all the posters a dirty little secret I have learned from my on-going talks with liquid vendors (I do that a lot!) I've sort of "interviewed" my favorite vendors ranging from (most notably) Nick at GoodeJuice, Wlad at Ahlusion and Donnley and Vapenstein at W2V. I, someone who likes to think of himself as a liquid guy, would say those are some high quality juice makers. Well, guess how all of them choose to vape their juices? ViVi Nova? Not hardly. Cartomizer? Yeah right. Genesis? Nope. RBA? Close, but no cigar. Regular Ole attys? Yep, you got it right! Ding ding ding.

As far as I remember, Don at BWB does too. My point is that we buy this juice, and the makers of it have tried all this other stuff and they all vape the liquid they make, that we buy, out of regular attys. If that doesn't tell you something, you didn't read what I typed, or you just don't care.
 

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Not by a long shot.

Oh, and let me tell all the posters a dirty little secret I have learned from my on-going talks with liquid vendors (I do that a lot!) I've sort of "interviewed" my favorite vendors ranging from (most notably) Nick at GoodeJuice, Wlad at Ahlusion and Donnley and Vapenstein at W2V. I, someone who likes to think of himself as a liquid guy, would say those are some high quality juice makers. Well, guess how all of them choose to vape their juices? ViVi Nova? Not hardly. Cartomizer? Yeah right. Genesis? Nope. RBA? Close, but no cigar. Regular Ole attys? Yep, you got it right! Ding ding ding.

As far as I remember, Don at BWB does too. My point is that we buy this juice, and the makers of it have tried all this other stuff and they all vape the liquid they make, that we buy, out of regular attys. If that doesn't tell you something, you didn't read what I typed, or you just don't care.

Imagine that. Juice makers using regular attys.

I doubted that I would be buying any rebuildable attys, for a while anyway. I am definitely not in any hurry after reading that.
 

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Hope the FDA does not ruin are party.

I started out with 808/901 style carts and atomizers four years ago. When I got back into vaping most recently I went straight after Boge LR 510 atties, just for dripping. I still have a couple laying around... I *learned* the art of RDA re-wicking because the threat posed to big tobacco and big pharma is growing at a far faster rate than it was a few years ago, and they are answering that growth with more and more biased "studies" and dollars to the lobbyists. I don't think of myself as paranoid but I do believe that e-cigarettes are in the greatest danger from extreme government regulation that I've seen in the last four years, and I don't think it's over yet folks.

Long story made short, unless you have a couple hundred "old school" atties laying around it *might* be worth your time to either stock up now, while you can, and/or give in and pick up a few RDAs. When companies like Reo Mods starts blowing out cheap, Phoenix clone RDAs at $4 each how can you not? I still like my old school dripping atties but when one dies and I throw it in the can I *always* think of it's replacement value... a couple of dollars OR 10 cents for new wick and wire on an RDA?

Just my $0.02 worth.
 

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Long story made short, unless you have a couple hundred "old school" atties laying around it *might* be worth your time to either stock up now, while you can, and/or give in and pick up a few RDAs.
I bought about 80 of the standard 510 atomizers back in 2009 when the FDA first tried to ban electronic cigarettes.
I still have about 65 of them left at this point, so I figure I'm set for at least a decade.

But lately I've been considering getting a couple of IGO-S atomizers just in case.
If I do, I'll put them in Vapeageddon stash and hope I never need them.
 

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I bought about 80 of the standard 510 atomizers back in 2009 when the FDA first tried to ban electronic cigarettes.
I still have about 65 of them left at this point, so I figure I'm set for at least a decade.

But lately I've been considering getting a couple of IGO-S atomizers just in case.
If I do, I'll put them in Vapeageddon stash and hope I never need them.

I know, right? Sometimes I'll just start breaking in a new atty because I feel like it. I have had one Joye go for months on in and look back at me like, "is it time to rebuild me?" LOL

Got plenty of attys to last me until I decide I don't give a damn. That may never happen, so I guess I am straight.
 

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I have had one Joye go for months on in and look back at me like, "is it time to rebuild me?" LOL
My longest lasting 510 atomizer went for 8 months before kicking the bucket.
It may help that I only use 3.7 volt batteries to do my dry burns, just to make sure I don't accidentally pop them.
 

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Awesome tip! Really. Awesome.
Yeah, the classic cleaning method below recommends using higher voltage...
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/tips-tricks/69834-my-atty-resurrection-method.html

And higher voltage would probably make a thorough dry burn take less time, but pulsing is not my thing.
When I use 3.7 volts to dry burn I can sit on the button as long as I want or need without worrying about popping the atomizer.

It make take a couple of rounds of rinsing and burning, but we're only talking 10 minutes instead of 5 minutes.
And you only need to do it maybe once every week or two.
 

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I have to admit i started my care low volt burning after, get this, stacking two 18350s to dry burn my hh357. I was dryburning it forEVER with single battery and it kept producing much vapor. It was not very dirty at ALL but sometimes i get in a cleaning mood, you know? It was well beyond time for any apor to still come I THOUGHT. So i bumped things up as described and held the button down longer and longer. Of course i popped that atty. it really hung in there though, why i will buy it for my 5 volt vaping devices. But thats not all. I rebulit one time my Phoenix mini clone RBA and it seemed due for cleaning. A little early in my book so, remembering my prior stupidity and absolutely dreading building another one i took its top off to clearly watch things, put it on a cheap unregulated 3.7 volt ego and just watched get to red and stopped, allowed to cool and did again. After the third time it looked better. It was very interesting for me to be able to see it all so well. Kind of from black thickesh looking coils to lite grey skinny ones. With so little effort really. I also wanted to spare the silica. I still dont understand why the silica doesnt burn.
My main motivation was so i didnt have to rebuild. For thse who have to see feel and all that in order to earn you can use a magnifying glass set up for seeing better for premades.
 
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This is why the silica wick doesn't burn...
Silicon dioxide - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Some people think it does, and that is what led to the whole debridging thing.
But they were wrong.

D2, you have got to explain to me why it is that when I used to vape W2V tobaccos and the atty would clog something terrible, how it was that after I debridged it, and removed the problematic wick, that it started working again, arguably better than before. Are you saying it was "wrong" meaning the atty didn't work anymore (which it did, and never stopped), that the thinking is flawed (which is different than "wrong"), or that it is bad karma for the atty (which it may be, but it's second life begins once it's debridged.) :laugh:

Obviously I am just jiving you, but have you ever debridged an atty and had disastrous, wrong, results? What did you do, or better yet, when an atty did die on you, what caused it? Did you debridge and then it die? I have brought attys back to life that died a natural (no particulate matter) death by debridging.
 

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All I know is the wick doesn't burn.
:)

And no, I have never debridged an atomizer, because it will hold less drops and might start leaking.
Not to mention that you can destroy it if you aren't careful.

I see no benefit in any of that.

Since I have no need to debridge, nor can I ever see where I would have such a need, I haven't done it and don't ever plan to.
 

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D2, you have got to explain to me why it is that when I used to vape W2V tobaccos and the atty would clog something terrible, how it was that after I debridged it, and removed the problematic wick, that it started working again, arguably better than before.
Based on your explanation of what happened, I can only hazard a guess...

I can imagine scenarios where the wick might get built up gunk on it, just like the wick that the coil is wrapped around.
And if that built up gunk on the wick gets too thick, it could block airflow to a significant extent.

Again this is just a guess.
:)
 
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