I feel that same way about gun control. I grew up thinking that meant controlling your aim, breathing and footing...
Regulated boxes killing mechs? Not so sure anymore...
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i like that^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 
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I think between the laws being passed and the tax factor in general, high end mods will die with the fad that vaping has become.
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Nah.
If only 20-something's vaped, Id agree.
But quite a few "seasoned ex smokers" vape.
Those aren't "fad" folk. I smoked the same brand for 30 years.
We don't vape to be "trendy".
I prefer the consistency of regulated devices and with the current power output of these devices, they have me shelving my mechs.
Having said that, I will always own a couple of mechs. Their simplicity, sleekness, and more importantly ... ruggedness will always keep them in my stable of devices.
Vaping like many things in life has become cyclical. They might make a comeback in the future. They may never have the same appeal as they once did, but I don't see them completely going to the way side yet.
Having said that, I will always own a couple of mechs. Their simplicity, sleekness, and more importantly ... ruggedness will always keep them in my stable of devices.
Vaping like many things in life has become cyclical. They might make a comeback in the future. They may never have the same appeal as they once did, but I don't see them completely going to the way side yet.
Sorry been away from my thread for a while. Wasn't my intention to insult reg mod users, or start a debate as to which is better.
Just opining on the popularity of mechs these days with the high wattage arms race going on. I don't have access to the classifieds here, so I can't comment on the drop in demand on high priced authentics, but let me tell you I go to FT and watch the clones sell like crazy.
The simplicity, durability, and yes, looks are what draw me to mechs over regs. But if you want a regulated box more power to ya, nothing wrong with that.
Just opining on the popularity of mechs these days with the high wattage arms race going on. I don't have access to the classifieds here, so I can't comment on the drop in demand on high priced authentics, but let me tell you I go to FT and watch the clones sell like crazy.
The simplicity, durability, and yes, looks are what draw me to mechs over regs. But if you want a regulated box more power to ya, nothing wrong with that.
Mechs and RBAs set the bar for performance.
Think they are dying?
The new Ego One is basically a mechanical
Mod with training wheels.
Kanger bet the farm on the sub tank. A quasi RBA that comes with .5 ohm coil heads.
Think they are dying?
The new Ego One is basically a mechanical
Mod with training wheels.
Kanger bet the farm on the sub tank. A quasi RBA that comes with .5 ohm coil heads.
I also assume, and could be stretching here, mech users would be more easily able to navigate upcoming regulation issues with the mods being so similar to flashlights. Just amend your search to "Nemesis Cree LED tactical flashlight" lol
I literally cannot see any kind of direct vape product regulating legislation coming anytime soon, especially with the fact that theyre just a 510 connector and a button
The only thing that separates a mech mod from... from well a lightswitch, is the 510.
You cant really envision a legal ban on 510-sized screw threads can you?
Or high-amperage buttons?
Or metal tubes?
Because theres really nothing left to legislate past that
What would define a vape from a metal tube and a button?
The only thing that separates a mech mod from... from well a lightswitch, is the 510.
You cant really envision a legal ban on 510-sized screw threads can you?
Or high-amperage buttons?
Or metal tubes?
Because theres really nothing left to legislate past that
What would define a vape from a metal tube and a button?
IMO, they won't regulate mods themselves, because like you said, the parts to build them are readily available and used in many different applications. They can however, regulate the juice and ingredients used in them....particularly the nicotine. I see ridiculous taxes and regulations in our near future...so that our government officials can "protect" us from the (exaggerated) "dangers" and "unknown effects" of vaping products. There's too much money being made and taken from big tobacco to allow it to continue without getting their share of the pie. Same old play from the same old playbook.
you said it^^^^^^^^^^big tobacco is behind the scene all the way, they are loosing money and they want in on the action, by lobbying the Gov w/all kinds of cash and mis-information to tax jooze and ingredients/cleor's you can almost bet it will be cheaper to by tobacco if they get what they want.....also big tobacco is making cig-alikes now....and any veteran Vapor that used to smoke 2 or more packs a day knows you cannot quit tobacco using them, so it's back to tobacco again.....these guy's are smart they are setting themselves up for a win-win situation...just my 
First off, I use both a regulated and a mechanical mod on a daily basis. I like both, for different reasons.
I'm one of those vets who advise a new or intermediate vaper looking for advice on their first APV to lean towards a regulated mod over a mechanical mod strictly from the safety factor. With the advent of high wattage regulated mods recently, there's really no reason to go with a mechanical unless it is purely from an aesthetic factor.
Mechs regained their popularity primarily because of the sub-ohm craze, because the regulated mods at the time couldn't run them. Now the newer high wattage mods can run sub ohms, and run them safer than a mechanical mod ever could.
I'm one of those vets who advise a new or intermediate vaper looking for advice on their first APV to lean towards a regulated mod over a mechanical mod strictly from the safety factor. With the advent of high wattage regulated mods recently, there's really no reason to go with a mechanical unless it is purely from an aesthetic factor.
Mechs regained their popularity primarily because of the sub-ohm craze, because the regulated mods at the time couldn't run them. Now the newer high wattage mods can run sub ohms, and run them safer than a mechanical mod ever could.
Regulated boxes are great for sitting at home and dialing in your perfect vaping experience, however with how a lot of the boxes are built they will break easily if they take a thrashing. I refuse to take my sigelli 150 to work but I take my Pegasus mech every day
Ive got a couple mech mods and an istick 50. Bith serve their ourposes, but next step i think will be an unregulated parallel box mod to get the things i like about both. That form factor, that battery life, that simplicity, reliability,better looks than a robot dong, etc
I have used many of both mech and box modz. Since I purchased my REO, that is all I use now. It is a mech but is very easy to use and trouble free. No more regulated box modz for me. My mechs will sit and collect dust until I feel like using a tank but that feeling will most likely be far and few between.
Im new to mods i got a box had it for a few weeks n moved to mech mods got a manhattan buster i like the buster better i think new vapers feel safer with regulated mods and then ease their way into mechs at least thats what i did
Mechs are popular because they don't break.
No electronic parts to fail.
Extremely durable devices.
User serviceable with very basic tools and skills.
Its really not all about aesthetics.
Yeah they look cool, but that's not why they have such a huge following, it's a bonus.
I posted this in another thread recently:
Pro's for a Mechanical APV:
Ability to sub-ohm. Early regulated devices were not designed to sub-ohm; recently the higher wattage regulated APV's can vape sub-ohm, but with all of that power the same effect can be obtained with normal resistance coils.
Durability and longevity. With no internal electronics to fail, a mech is considered to be a more durable choice over a regulated APV.
Aesthetics. Many prefer the simple and elegant appearance of a mechanical.
Simplicity. A mechanical is simply a glorified battery holder, fire button, and 510 connector.
Cons for a mechanical APV:
Pro's for Regulated APV's:
Cons of regulated APV:
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I use both a regulated tube mod and a mechanical tube mod, on a daily basis. I like both, for different reasons. I'm not particularly a fan of the box mods.
Pro's for a Mechanical APV:
Ability to sub-ohm. Early regulated devices were not designed to sub-ohm; recently the higher wattage regulated APV's can vape sub-ohm, but with all of that power the same effect can be obtained with normal resistance coils.
Durability and longevity. With no internal electronics to fail, a mech is considered to be a more durable choice over a regulated APV.
Aesthetics. Many prefer the simple and elegant appearance of a mechanical.
Simplicity. A mechanical is simply a glorified battery holder, fire button, and 510 connector.
Cons for a mechanical APV:
No processor protection circuitry. This feature protects against many short circuits, reverse battery protection, over-heating, over-discharging the battery, etc. Without this feature, YOU THE USER must be constantly aware of potential dangers of short circuits. The vast majority of mechanical mods use a bottom-firing switch; IMO these may result in a potential auto-firing event if the APV is set down on its bottom or placed in a pocket. Some of these have a locking mechanism to prevent auto-firing, but who locks their fire switch each and every time they stop vaping?
The quality of the vaping experience will gradually and progressively decline over the course of the battery used between charges.
The only way to change the vaping experience is to change the atomizer (coil) resistance (ohms).
The quality of the vaping experience will gradually and progressively decline over the course of the battery used between charges.
The only way to change the vaping experience is to change the atomizer (coil) resistance (ohms).
Pro's for Regulated APV's:
Protection circuitry against short circuits.
Power regulation. You can increase or decrease the voltage or wattage to suit your vaping preference. It will also keep your chosen power output constant regardless of the charge on the battery.
Built-in voltage and resistance meters.
Some regulated mods use a built-in, rechargeable (non-removeable) battery using a common USB charging cable.
Power regulation. You can increase or decrease the voltage or wattage to suit your vaping preference. It will also keep your chosen power output constant regardless of the charge on the battery.
Built-in voltage and resistance meters.
Some regulated mods use a built-in, rechargeable (non-removeable) battery using a common USB charging cable.
Cons of regulated APV:
Often not as durable as a mechanical mod, because of the internal electrical components.
Until the advent of the more recent high wattage APV's, they could not power sub-ohm.
Aesthetics. Often not as physically attractive as many of the finer mechanical mods.
Until the advent of the more recent high wattage APV's, they could not power sub-ohm.
Aesthetics. Often not as physically attractive as many of the finer mechanical mods.
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I use both a regulated tube mod and a mechanical tube mod, on a daily basis. I like both, for different reasons. I'm not particularly a fan of the box mods.
Even though a gradual power loss is felt with a mechanical, it will last longer than a similarly powered regulated mod.
The regulated mod will pull more power to keep the output level of the device at the target power setting, thus expending battery power much faster than a mechanical.
The regulated mod will pull more power to keep the output level of the device at the target power setting, thus expending battery power much faster than a mechanical.
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