REO Grand or Vapor Flask?

[supersport13]

Hello, so with tax return time right around the corner I'm debating on what mod to get next. I currently have a Provari 2.5 and a Cloupor 30 watt box mod, both of which I really enjoy. I use a Kayfun lite + and a eleaf Lemo. I tried dripping and its just too much for me as far as the actual act of having to drip. I like to be able to have a tank full of at least 4mls of juice. So, if you have a REO or a Vapor Flask, why did you choose that mod and how do you like it? Thanks!

 

[pianoguy]

I bought a cheapie plastic bottom-feed mod called the WetBox back in the summer of 2010 - I'd grown tired of constantly refilling cartos, so the idea of an on-board juice supply was very appealing. The WetBox worked OK for the most part, but was leaky and had a flaky switch. But I was sold on the concept. In the fall of 2010, I got wind of the impending release of the REO Mini, made of aircraft aluminum, and no leaky needle feed like the WetBox had. I was lucky enough to snag one of the first run Mini's, and it's been nothing but REO's ever since. I also got a Grand as soon as they became available a couple months later, and that has been in daily use ever since. I've bought several other REO's over the years, but just because I wanted them, not because I needed them. The Grand has adapted well over time. I started using KR808D-1 cartos with an adapter, and then moved on to 306 and 510 atomizers, and then to 510 cartos, and finally to RBA's the past couple years. I've beat that poor old Grand like a red-headed stepchild, and it never lets me down.

 

[Chelonian]

I sold my REO.

Not that it didnt work.

Just that for the money, the fit and finish wasnt up to spec.
For example, a Super T will be flawless at that price, and my REO showed scuffs and messy wiring.

For VaporFlask money you can get a SunBox.
I have one, and its dang near a work of art.

Just be ready with Babel translator when you order

I seem to be on a REO tear. No reason for it, so I'll stop ....


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[Papa_Lazarou]

Well, the reo will get you ease of use, reliability, durability, and the dripping experience without having to drip (and an all-day supply of juice).

The VF40 will get you a regulated vape (temp control, even, if you went the NI200 coil route) and have no affect on the topper solution (i.e., you could use anything).

Either would result in a quality vape. I think it might come down to whether or not you want a classic ferrari with a stick shift or an Audi S4 with paddle shifters.

 

[pianoguy]

The only REO's with any visible wires are made of wood - I have one, and the wires are tucked neatly into routed slots. These are made on a limited-run basis and are usually not available. The variable-voltage models had no exposed wiring, and are no longer available. All the others are mechanical with no wiring whatsoever.

 

[Fuzzy Bruce]

I progressed rather quickly to dripping but it can be a problem to drip and drive unless you have many stop lights and stop signs. The two Reo Grands I now use make it safe to drip and drive, actually drip and do most anything but scuba. Choice of BF atty's, dual or single coil, Mouth to lund or direct lung hits. Battery lasts for more than 6 ml of juice, pretty much all day vaping for me. Rock solid mech, no wires, probably dishwasher safe and so simple that I will probably retire all my other mods as soon as I have a couple more Reos..

 

[Marc411]

I own both and if I could only have one it would be my Reo LP Grand. No matter what device I have built the REO is my traveling partner and damn near bullet proof.

Don't get me wrong the VF is nice but you'll never find a tougher device that consistently produces an outstanding vape.

 

[Rat2chat2]

I just can't imagine vaping getting any better for me and I am 99% sure I'll never use anything else. Good luck to you at finding your happy place.

 

[Chelonian]

I look at every aspect of my mods, therefore I looked at the wiring.
It was a mess.
And the unit worked perfectly.
My gripe was that the fit and finish, along with the v drop, does not justify its price to me.
The SunBox has a better vdrop, better fit and finish.
I have seen many, if not most, clones that had better fit and finish than the REO.
If a REO cost, say, $50 less, it would make sense.
As it is, I think that its fair to ask for low V Drop and excellent finish for the price charged for what is essentially a box and switch.
My other authentics have this.

The last, and biggest, point is that you are severely limited as to what attys you can use and still squonk.

Want to use a Plume Viel? A Patriot? How about a Tugboat?
Not if you wan to use the only thing that makes using a REO with its v drop logical. 90% of RDAs are not set up for squonking.

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[muzichead]

I look at every aspect of my mods, therefore I looked at the wiring.
It was a mess.
And the unit worked perfectly.
My gripe was that the fit and finish, along with the v drop, does not justify its price to me.
The SunBox has a better vdrop, better fit and finish.
I have seen many, if not most, clones that had better fit and finish than the REO.
If a REO cost, say, $50 less, it would make sense.
As it is, I think that its fair to ask for low V Drop and excellent finish for the price charged for what is essentially a box and switch.
My other authentics have this.

The last, and biggest, point is that you are severely limited as to what attys you can use and still squonk.

Want to use a Plume Viel? A Patriot? How about a Tugboat?
Not if you wan to use the only thing that makes using a REO with its v drop logical. 90% of RDAs are not set up for squonking.

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Two things come to mind when I read both of your posts.... First is you are a definite SunBox fanboy, not that anything is wrong with that. Second would be that you think the REO is overpriced, again nothing wrong with that. Just curious, what did your SunBox cost you? What I don't get is you seem to be hung up on the wiring!! As previously pointed out, the Woodvil is the only REO produced with wires in it and that is only because of the switch in it due to wood not being a conductor of electricity at all and the wires are tucked away in a routed channel in the back of the device. The VV Grand is no longer in production as there were just too many problems with the chip that was used in it. That being said, there have been problems with all VV/VW devices on the market in the past 4yrs. None of them are dependable and they all fail at some point. This also includes the recent DNA 30 and 40 of course. The average life expectancy of a VV/VW device sold today is about 6 months tops... The life expectancy of a REO Grand is....well Rob has been making them for over 3yrs now and they are still going... Take some time to go read through the VV section of the forum.

Now if you want a device that just flat performs....then the REO Grand is for you. No muss no fuss device. Voltage drop is not a problem with the new upgraded contacts Rob is installing in them. Liquid on demand and very low maintenance. It obviously has been a while since you looked into atomizers that will fit on a grand as well, it has been over a year since people have been using their Patriot's on them. Tugboat, Plume Veil, Magma, Origen, Zenith, Veritas, Mephisto, Hobo, Odin, Mutation X, Doge, and the list goes on as to what will work on a LP REO Grand...

As far as the looks of the device, I personally could care less if it has a few scratches or dings on it. My devices have been dropped from ladders, rooftops, out of the truck, among other things and it still vapes the same as when I first received it. Try dropping your E7 off the roof and see how it vapes afterwards... Oh wait, it probably won't survive even a fall out of the truck so there's no comparison.

I too, am a fanboy of the best damn vaping device on the market today... The REO Grand by REOS Mods...

 

[Chelonian]

Not a fan of of anything.
An the Sunbox cost more, and I feel that I got my money's worth.
If you notice, I said that it worked, just that for the money charged, any device you care to name, and plenty that costs half, work with less v drop and better fit and finish.

As for other drippers working with it, notice that I said that you cant squonk with them.
If you cant squonk, there are many better choices.
I knew that REonauts were rabid, but dang.


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[muzichead]

Not a fan of of anything.
An the Sunbox cost more, and I feel that I got my money's worth.
If you notice, I said that it worked, just that for the money charged, any device you care to name, and plenty that costs half, work with less v drop and better fit and finish.

As for other drippers working with it, notice that I said that you cant squonk with them.
If you cant squonk, there are many better choices.
I knew that REonauts were rabid, but dang.


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Every atty I mentioned in my previous post has been modded to bottom feed and you "CAN" squonk with them. There are a couple out there that can't be modded for BF, but the vast majority can be and have been. I am currently vaping a Mephisto and have had the Odin, Atomic, Trident, Cyclone, Igo-L, Era, Doge, Patriot, and Zenith....all bottom feeders... You need to get out more... Your missing out on so much!!! Its all good though...

 

[Chelonian]

Sigh

So now, lets drill a hole in the bottom of drippers, making them useless for any other mod. I suppose you could block the hole when you use the dripper on something else.
But nah, I dont think I will limit myself to one device through drilled out atomiser decks.
All of this still does nothing about the v drop.

Anyways, this is a useless conversation. Talking with Reonauts is as bad as politics.


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[Rickajho]

I sold my REO.

Not that it didnt work.

Just that for the money, the fit and finish wasnt up to spec.
For example, a Super T will be flawless at that price, and my REO showed scuffs and messy wiring.

For VaporFlask money you can get a SunBox.
I have one, and its dang near a work of art.

Just be ready with Babel translator when you order

I seem to be on a REO tear. No reason for it, so I'll stop ....


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Reo? "...messy wiring"? Wiring?

Are you sure you got a Reo?

If you had a complaint about fit and finish on a Reo - welp that's a first.(I really don't know what you bought.)

 

[Fuzzy Bruce]

My vote is to get both!!

As to voltage drop, my Reo, (no wires) has less voltage drop than my other aluminum mech mod.

 

[Marc411]

Sigh

So now, lets drill a hole in the bottom of drippers, making them useless for any other mod. I suppose you could block the hole when you use the dripper on something else.
But nah, I dont think I will limit myself to one device through drilled out atomiser decks.
All of this still does nothing about the v drop.

Anyways, this is a useless conversation. Talking with Reonauts is as bad as politics.


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Only useless because your post was flawed with inaccuracies. My two Grands have no wires. I have RDA's that I purchased that were designed for bottom fed mods, six or eight I believe are available from the REOS online store. And I have found several RDA's that I really wanted and for a whopping $15 to mod I got to use toppers of my choice. More manufacturers are seeing the growing popularity of these mods and building RDA's specifically for BF devices.

Almost a year in I have had zero problems with either of my REO's and if I did there is excellent support from the Rob.

Pretty amazing to have so many choices and a consistently excellent vape.

 

[Chelonian]

Just to clear this up, and last post from me

The switch on my Grand was most certainly wired.

Also, never claimed it didnt work-quite the opposite.

Then again, so do all of my mods, and most do it with less v drop, and better fit and finish.

Calm down, and have a vape.

Different people have the right to different views


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[muzichead]

Sigh

So now, lets drill a hole in the bottom of drippers, making them useless for any other mod. I suppose you could block the hole when you use the dripper on something else.
But nah, I dont think I will limit myself to one device through drilled out atomiser decks.
All of this still does nothing about the v drop.

Anyways, this is a useless conversation. Talking with Reonauts is as bad as politics.


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Redacted

Just to clear this up, and last post from me

The switch on my Grand was most certainly wired.

Also, never claimed it didnt work-quite the opposite.

Then again, so do all of my mods, and most do it with less v drop, and better fit and finish.

Calm down, and have a vape.

Different people have the right to different views


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My atty's aren't worthless after being drilled for bottom feed because I only vape on a REO Grand....

Why all the fuss about voltage drop.? It's probably been well over a year that you had a VV REO Grand... There have been some modifications to the REO line now and voltage drop is not a problem anymore. The voltage drop is in the .2v range vaping a .33Ω coil. There aren't many devices out there that can get even in the same ballpark as the grand, and I know the SunBox isn't one of those either....

You need to lay the hate to the side dude and talk about something else you know nothing about....

 

[opensec]

China is coming up with a regulated bottom fed mod pretty soon, just wait

 

[Izan]

China is coming up with a regulated bottom fed mod pretty soon, just wait

Sold out:

Box Mod bottom feeder FireBox Cigaverte - Cigaverte
18500 Firebox Squonker


Reviews tended towards: meh...

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