REO. How, What, Why.

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When the beetle is finished I guess I will have to give the reo a trial run, along with a pro-vari. You zealots talk me into everything on here. (truth be told though the little reo may benifit my wife with her dripping)

Just be forewarned, trial runs in the Ville have a tendency not to stay trial for very long :)
 

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I dont find dripping a hassle at all, at least not enough to warrent that kind of price tag though. Unless they have gone down since I last looked. A local B&M has them for around 180.00

So you don't try to drive and drip at the same time? Or work and drip at the same time? Or...?

The price might seem high - and at a B&M that is more than you would pay if you got it from Reosmods - but considering that buying a Reo stops the mech mod chase for the latest/newest/"improved" buying and spending dead in it's tracks for most of us... That and selling all the other stuff that "Sorta works. But not really so I'm gonna buy 'this' and see if 'this' works any better than my 15 other mechs and attys." It's worth it. A lot of people sell off all their other "stuff" in short order.

The thing is pretty much indestructible. They have been run over by cars - and a lot worse - and survive just fine.

If you manage to do something really, REALLY bad and damage the switch or collapse the battery spring due to a dead short, replacement parts are readily available - which is a royal PITA for a lot of people chasing parts that they can't get for a lot of mechs.

No threaded tooby parts to create conductivity problems and voltage drops. Oh - no stripped or seized threads either.

No one has ever cut themselves unscrewing a Reo. (No threads - remember?) Certain mechanicals require more care than should be necessary to prevent that from happening when you want to change a battery.

You do need a bottom feed RDA. But since a great working RDA design isn't built around needing bigger and bigger juice wells and large wicks getting a working build is a lot simpler. This guy is modding attys to work with bottom feed: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...-supplier-forum/581604-catfish-atty-mods.html

The feed system just - works. Everything is self-contained. You just squeeze the bottle through the feed window and go. It's a one handed dripping experience. Since the feed bottle holds 6 ml it can get most people through an entire work day without needing to refill. How many minutes can you go without needing at least two hands to drip a regular RDA?
 

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So you don't try to drive and drip at the same time? Or work and drip at the same time? Or...?

The price might seem high - and at a B&M that is more than you would pay if you got it from Reosmods - but considering that buying a Reo stops the mech mod chase for the latest/newest/"improved" buying and spending dead in it's tracks for most of us... That and selling all the other stuff that "Sorta works. But not really so I'm gonna buy 'this' and see if 'this' works any better than my 15 other mechs and attys." It's worth it. A lot of people sell off all their other "stuff" in short order.

The thing is pretty much indestructible. They have been run over by cars - and a lot worse - and survive just fine.

If you manage to do something really, REALLY bad and damage the switch or collapse the battery spring due to a dead short, replacement parts are readily available - which is a royal PITA for a lot of people chasing parts that they can't get for a lot of mechs.

No threaded tooby parts to create conductivity problems and voltage drops. Oh - no stripped or seized threads either.

No one has ever cut themselves unscrewing a Reo. (No threads - remember?) Certain mechanicals require more care than should be necessary to prevent that from happening when you want to change a battery.

You do need a bottom feed RDA. But since a great working RDA design isn't built around needing bigger and bigger juice wells and large wicks getting a working build is a lot simpler. This guy is modding attys to work with bottom feed: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...-supplier-forum/581604-catfish-atty-mods.html

The feed system just - works. Everything is self-contained. You just squeeze the bottle through the feed window and go. It's a one handed dripping experience. Since the feed bottle holds 6 ml it can get most people through an entire work day without needing to refill. How many minutes can you go without needing at least two hands to drip a regular RDA?

While I don't entirely dissagree, I don't entirely agree with you either. I personally don't have the need to drip in the car (mvp, iclear x.1 stays with me for the car) Although the rare occasion where I do need to, I don't have any issues with it, nor does the two hands to drip thing bother me in any way shape or form. Everyone is different when it comes to their own needs for convience, or their ability to adapt. Again with the mechanical aspect I don't have any of those troubles, I don't cut myself, I don't fight my mechs, and I do enjoy getting and trying different things out. I plan to get a REO at some point main largest concern is whether its truthfully worth the cost given that I don't particularly give a hoot for any of the convience aspect as that literally affects me to a 0th degree. I understand the voltage drop etc is not there, but on the flip Its really not a noticed problem on my current set ups. I don't know, again not downing the REO in any way shape or form, I fully intend to try one out, just voicing my thought process on pros-cons along with just the general jist of not everyone falls into a particular catagory.
 

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Your already a REOnaut, you just don't know it yet :lol:

It's really one of those things you just have to experience before you can know.

Another benefit I forgot to mention is maintenance. With all my tubes I would spend hours cleaning, polishing, etc. Now maintenance for all 4 of my Grands takes about 20 minutes if I take my time. Just remove the battery and bottle, get some hot, soapy water and a toothbrush and go to town. I rinse it off then take some 93% isopropyl alcohol and pour it into the switch area to dry it out. Wipe it down and your good to go.
 

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when it comes to vaping, there are really only 3 different ways to get the juice to the coil

1st is auto feeding. this would be all of your tanks and clearo's... just about anything that holds a significant amout of juice and vapes through it is an auto feed system

2nd would be direct dripping, this is of course, feed it a little bit, vape it a little bit, feed it a little bit, vape it a little bit, repeat as necessary

the 3rd way is bottom feeding or more accurately manual bottom feeding, which is what the reo is... in a BF you feed juice up to the atty and it fully saturates the wick and sometimes even the whole coil but then it retracts this juice so the end result is a fully saturated yet non flooded vape, which is about as good as it gets.... auto tanks can have their sweet spot but are going to be limited in how powerful of a vape you can experience simply because auto feed is not going to be able to really keep up with wicking consistently at high wattage without getting finicky or just simply not being able to keep up. dripping can allow you to vape at the same kinds of higher wattage too but then you have to drip drip drip, and dripping can sometimes wind up being over saturated or even flooded if you drip too much and start to dry out if you don't dip enough

bottom line is a perfectly saturated but not flooded coil is going to give an optimum vape.

if you're the kind of guy who vapes at like 8-12 watts with a 30-32 ga coil then there are plenty of auto feeding tank setups that may serve you better, but if you're into a more powerful vape then tanks can start to become a limiting factor, dripping can be a hassle and nothing beats just squeezing the bottle a bit each time you want to replenish your wick/coil... it's really as simple as that. manual bottom feeding, or "squonking" is dripping without having to drip, and has the added bonus of evacuation of the chamber after each squonk so you don't wind up with the problems you'd have dripping even in a dripper with a relatively large juice holding deck, so in that way bottom feeding is actually superior to even dripping... truth is for those who really know vaping, a bottom feeder is hard to beat and nothing will be as consistent or fool proof.
 

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now that I think of it and just for the sake of accuracy, there is also a 4th way that a coil can be fed, and that's with a genesis tank setup because technically it doesn't really fall under any of the other categories. a genny is a cross between a tank auto feed and manually feeding it by way of the "genny tilt", and does have many who also favor this kind of vape, and it can be a good vape at higher watts too, but the biggest drawback there is it leaking unless kept upright at all times...
 

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when it comes to vaping, there are really only 3 different ways to get the juice to the coil

1st is auto feeding. this would be all of your tanks and clearo's... just about anything that holds a significant amout of juice and vapes through it is an auto feed system

2nd would be direct dripping, this is of course, feed it a little bit, vape it a little bit, feed it a little bit, vape it a little bit, repeat as necessary

the 3rd way is bottom feeding or more accurately manual bottom feeding, which is what the reo is... in a BF you feed juice up to the atty and it fully saturates the wick and sometimes even the whole coil but then it retracts this juice so the end result is a fully saturated yet non flooded vape, which is about as good as it gets.... auto tanks can have their sweet spot but are going to be limited in how powerful of a vape you can experience simply because auto feed is not going to be able to really keep up with wicking consistently at high wattage without getting finicky or just simply not being able to keep up. dripping can allow you to vape at the same kinds of higher wattage too but then you have to drip drip drip, and dripping can sometimes wind up being over saturated or even flooded if you drip too much and start to dry out if you don't dip enough

bottom line is a perfectly saturated but not flooded coil is going to give an optimum vape.

if you're the kind of guy who vapes at like 8-12 watts with a 30-32 ga coil then there are plenty of auto feeding tank setups that may serve you better, but if you're into a more powerful vape then tanks can start to become a limiting factor, dripping can be a hassle and nothing beats just squeezing the bottle a bit each time you want to replenish your wick/coil... it's really as simple as that. manual bottom feeding, or "squonking" is dripping without having to drip, and has the added bonus of evacuation of the chamber after each squonk so you don't wind up with the problems you'd have dripping even in a dripper with a relatively large juice holding deck, so in that way bottom feeding is actually superior to even dripping... truth is for those who really know vaping, a bottom feeder is hard to beat and nothing will be as consistent or fool proof.

Now that was factual. And a bit swaying, I wasnt aware it sucked the juice back down, I was picturing my heavy handed .... just squeezing the juice into the atty, and over filling it. Maybe..MAYBE...if I can get a couple of things sold off I will grab one sooner rather than later.
 

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main largest concern is whether its truthfully worth the cost given that I don't particularly give a hoot for any of the convience aspect as that literally affects me to a 0th degree.

I can't speak to whether YOU will think it's worth the cost. However I will tell you that after much research & a couple years of trying products & such (and getting bored of all the necessities surrounding clearos & my kayfun) I got my first REO....and then after trying it out for a couple weeks I sold all my other stuff & got another. That's pretty much all I use now. I do still like to use a mech & other drippers sometimes when I'm vaping special eliquids that I don't want to load into a REO bottle and vape all day (it's like a treat). But I have stopped searching for the perfect vape because I found it.

Whether you decide to pick on up or not, I do hope that you get a set up that's your idea of perfect.
 

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when you squeeze the bottle you are adding pressure to the bottle as it displaces which forces the juice up, but when you release the squeezed bottle it then creates a vacuum as it resumes it's shape, sucking everything right back down. you can squonk till you see juice just start to bleed from the airhole, then let it go and it will retract everything except whatever the wick sucks up
 

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I can't speak to whether YOU will think it's worth the cost. However I will tell you that after much research & a couple years of trying products & such (and getting bored of all the necessities surrounding clearos & my kayfun) I got my first REO....and then after trying it out for a couple weeks I sold all my other stuff & got another. That's pretty much all I use now. I do still like to use a mech & other drippers sometimes when I'm vaping special eliquids that I don't want to load into a REO bottle and vape all day (it's like a treat). But I have stopped searching for the perfect vape because I found it.

Whether you decide to pick on up or not, I do hope that you get a set up that's your idea of perfect.

see thats where I screw myself up, everything I upgrade to winds up being perfect...for a little while.. and my wife gets very very irritated that I become bored, or need to "upgrade" all sorts of things all the dang time. My audio gear has gotten to the point that I think I could out-do best buys selection of home stereo equipment.
 

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I bought a Reo from the ECF classifieds last week and will be putting most of my other high end gear for sale this weekend. I find it to be such a versatile device that I don't see a need for the pile of equipment I've accumulated. Many attys can be adapted to work on the Reo. I can build a 1 ohm coil and use it all day at work without changing batteries and the 6 ml of juice lasts all day. In this mode it takes the place of my regulated mod/Kayfun set up. When i get home i slap on a different atty with a lower ohm build and it works like a dripper without the dripping. No device is just right for everyone but for me it fits all my vaping needs

I have 3 attys that have been modded to fit the Reo and i'll probably get a few more.

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I bought a Reo from the ECF classifieds last week and will be putting most of my other high end gear for sale this weekend. I find it to be such a versatile device that I don't see a need for the pile of equipment I've accumulated. Many attys can be adapted to work on the Reo. I can build a 1 ohm coil and use it all day at work without changing batteries and the 6 ml of juice lasts all day. In this mode it takes the place of my regulated mod/Kayfun set up. When i get home i slap on a different atty with a lower ohm build and it works like a dripper without the dripping. No device is just right for everyone but for me it fits all my vaping needs

I have 3 attys that have been modded to fit the Reo and i'll probably get a few more.

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Does the tobh require modding, and how difficult is it. I have had a love affair with this RDA since I got it. I typically vape around .5ohms, rarely swap coils or change that aspect, and go through 12-30 ml per day of juice.
 

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see thats where I screw myself up, everything I upgrade to winds up being perfect...for a little while.. and my wife gets very very irritated that I become bored, or need to "upgrade" all sorts of things all the dang time. My audio gear has gotten to the point that I think I could out-do best buys selection of home stereo equipment.

lol that's funny (I get what you're saying about the stereo equipment as my hubby is like this too). For me, this is has been another benefit of the REO in that Rob is always putting out different new things that can go with it, like different styles/color doors, upgrade kits, low profile mods for larger atties & new atties. I haven't found myself even thinking I'm bored of this device yet & it's been half a year so for me that's pretty good.
 

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Does the tobh require modding, and how difficult is it. I have had a love affair with this RDA since I got it. I typically vape around .5ohms, rarely swap coils or change that aspect, and go through 12-30 ml per day of juice.

Yes it does. All attys need to be able to feed e-liquid from the bottom. The Tobh is a clone with a hole drilled through the center post to the level of the deck. The horizontal holes drilled at deck level. Some newer attys like the zenith are being shipped with a bottom feed option. You can look around on ECF and find help with the modding
 

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I've got a spare Reo and RM2 that I'd part with.

Also, if you PM redeyedancer (Rob) and ask him if he has a blem in the color you want. They are about $120 and I dare you to find the blem. Rob's standards and 2nd to none, can you find the blem, I can't.

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The change it will have on the way you vape is astounding, it truly replaced smoking and vaping is no longer a hobby. You get a Reo, mass quantities of your favorite liquid and you will use it every day and it will never fail you. (unless you forget that the button is locked after you've been schlicking the door up and down and squonking)

If something does go wrong (because you tinkered with it), it can be fixed for 20 bucks with a repair kit at home or sent to maine and itll come back new.
 
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Bottom line is that bottom feeders are the way to go. Dripping is the best vape, and a feeder takes the hassle out of it. To me dripping was required for low sub ohm builds, with a reo you couldn't go very aggressive in the Ohm department in the past, so I built my own bottom feeder. Now the reo has been outfitted for sub ohm builds and lp'ed for use with any atty so I think it's the best available.

Here's my bottom feeder BTW, not a reo.

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