Replacing cartridge wool

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Sereno011

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I was referring to a used sheet. But new or used it should still be cleaned before hand. Sorry if that wasn't clear. It is a good point though as they do contain chemicals you don't want to be inhaling. I figure a light dowsing in rubbing alcohol or vinegar followed by a rinse should be sufficient though. Admittedly I just used dish washing detergent. I'm not aware of any craft stores that sell this type of fabric but if anyone out there knows please share.
 

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I was referring to a used sheet. But new or used it should still be cleaned before hand. Sorry if that wasn't clear. It is a good point though as they do contain chemicals you don't want to be inhaling. I figure a light dowsing in rubbing alcohol or vinegar followed by a rinse should be sufficient though. Admittedly I just used dish washing detergent. I'm not aware of any craft stores that sell this type of fabric but if anyone out there knows please share.

Thought so, but, you never know.......LOL
 
Yes I am using the coffee filter paper in the same way, making a loose roll of it that leaves a hole down the center which allows air to get down to the bottom (basically the same thing as using the straw idea really) I haven't needed to change the paper for a week now....I just keep topping it up and unlike the tea bag it doesn't seem to hang onto the 'oily' part of the juice. That's in a penstyle atomizer cart though.
Pete - now that this topic has evolved and been tested quite extensively, perhaps you can start a new thread summarising the best method.
 

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Pete - now that this topic has evolved and been tested quite extensively, perhaps you can start a new thread summarising the best method.

I am not sure about that Kinaba....there just doesn't seem to be any method that works for everyone. I guess everyone needs to try them all and see which one works the best for them, I only wanted to get away from vaping polyester and getting the burnt plastic taste......but a lot of people say they never get the burn't plastic taste and so don't believe there is much risk of vaping any polyester anyway. In that case the Fluval and the straw idea is probably the best.
 

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Hi.

Just wanted to let you all know, I've made what I think is a major breakthrough. Check out this link:

The Body Shop - Facial Buffer Sponge

Also available at Bodyshop outlets and, if you're lucky like me, from your girlfriend's impossibly huge stash of skincare products. It's a very porous sponge made of some sort of polyester material. It seems the porosity and structure is just perfect for holding e-liquid, and it looks surprisingly similar to the stuff that's in new carts. And while £2.90 is a bit much for a sponge you don't need much of it to fill a cartridge. I reckon this gives you a good-as-new cartridge for something like 5p, good for quite a few refills.

The only potential downside is that the sponge is either scented or the material has a natural smell to it. It's a very subtle smell, sort of "wooden", but you really need the sponge right up against your nose before you even detect it. Either way it's hardly harmful since it's meant to be an exfoliating scrubbing sponge, i.e. whatever produces the smell might easily get in your blood if you use the sponge as intended, and I personally can't detect it while using the sponge in a cartridge.

If anyone wants to give it a go, what I do is soak the sponge in water for an hour or so (just because why not), press it between some sheets of tissue paper to get most of the water out, then leave it to dry completely. Then I cut off a rectangular piece about 8x15 mm with the sponge's thickness of about 16 mm, and divide it in two so I get two pieces of about 8x15x8 mm. Then I apply a bit of liquid before inserting it into the cart, just to get the surface area covered, gently guide it into the cart and top up with more liquid.

I can get something like 20 drops in there, there's no dripping, and I can vape it dry as well. The liquid doesn't visibly dissolve the sponge, but the sponge does eventually lose its ability to take liquid. I only take that as a good sign since it means it deteriorates exactly like the stuffing in new carts. I'll certainly be doing this from now on.
 

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I'm not sure if this is good advice or not. I honestly haven't read every post in this thread, so I don't know if something similar has been mentioned. I was attempting to refill a cartridge with polyfill for the first time. I know many of you have complained of loose threads and I was having a hard time with it as well. I noticed on manufactured cartridges they seemed to be a bit stiffer on top and I thought they might have been heat treated. I left my polyfill poking a bit outside of the cartridge and grabbed a lighter (that I haven't used in 2 days thanks to my e-cig!) I turned the flame down and barely touched the polyfill. There wasn't even any smoke. It condensed a bit on the end, but became flat and NO loose threads. I poked it down into the cartridge and Voila! I just tested and it has no strange flavor whatsoever.

I hope this isn't ridiculously ......ed, although this is the internet and I'm sure you've all heard much worse.
 

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Greetings.
I am currently a fan of the tea bag method: the draw is fabulous, filling and topping up are quick and easy (even more so if you use a syringe), and the cart stuffing process is ridiculously simple. I tend to fill carts with liquid in a batch of five or six, swap them out with full ones as they need topping up, and then top them up (with syringe) in a batch, so I can't really claim that a cart needs to be re-stuffed every x days. My best (conservative) estimate is that a single tea-bag stuffing would be good for maybe two days of continuous use. If that seems very short, bear in mind that it only takes a minute (two max) to prep a tea-bag stuffing plug and the only tool required is a part of sharp scissors.

I use these empty (Finum brand) tea bags here. I am a long-time fan of Upton Tea and everything they sell: Upton Tea Imports: Teaware - Cup/Mug Filter Bags (AI42)

Here is a brief summary of my procedure for stuffing 510 carts with tea-bag material:

1. Trim and discard the side seams. The fastest way to this is to fold the bag in half one or more times, just to shorten the length that you need to cut thru with scissors (think of strings of folded paper dolls to get the visual).
2. Cut the bag in half parallel to the side seams that you just removed. When unfolded, you should have two long strips of material, enough to fill two carts. I usually tear off and discard about two inches off of each strip to get the right amount for a 510 cart.
3. Start at one end of the strip and begin folding the paper up into a plug. I use my fingers back and forth to do a sloppy accordian pleat, as I feel that the pleats result in an airier structure than rolling it up like a carpet. Make your pleats roughly as wide as the intended mouthpiece.
4. Tidy up the plug into a shape and size to fit your mouthpiece, then trim a small bit off of one end to make it flush for the bottom end of the mouthpiece.
5. Slide the plug into the mouthpiece all the way, then pull it out about 1 mm, and trim the excess off across the open end of the mouthpiece. Tuck the plug back in, and you're done.
6. Fill that baby up with liquid--the fastest and best way IMHO is to fill from the bottom up using a syringe.

Please give a holler if I've been unclear or if you have any questions.
 

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I have had trouble finding the teabag material around here. Probably the easiest thing to find has been the polyfill, and I've had a lot of luck with that.

I thought I would try following the directions and videos on the forum to stuff an old 510 Cartridge, and it came out well, I think. Here are my directions with pictures following. They are just meant to augment directions already online.

First, get a bag of plain 100% polyfill polyester, from a hobby store or hobby department of a mega-store. (Picture 1) Open the bag and pull out a little polyester. Uncompressed, you should have a little ball maybe an inch in diameter. Now, I think it’s a good idea to have most of the fibers going the same way, and right now they are going in all directions. Here is how I try to improve this: Grab the ends of the ball in either hand, and pull it apart into two pieces. Put the pieces together on top of each other and repeat the process over and over (say 5-10 times) until it looks like the “direction” of the polyester threads is generally straight, going from one end to the other.

Now roll the polyester briskly between the palms of your hands, like you might do to turn a ball of dough or clay into a cylinder. You should end up with something that looks like Picture 2.

Now, get an Exacto style hobby knife, or a sharp razor or scissors (small cuticle scissors work well for this kind of detail work and are less dangerous than a razor). Evenly cut off one end of the polyester where it begins to taper. This must be done quickly and firmly or the threads won’t all get cut evenly. See Picture 3.

Now remove the stuffing from an existing empty or old dried-out cart using tweezers or (my favorite low-tech standby) an unbent paperclip as in Picture 4. Use it as a length guideline to cut the other end of the polyester off so it is the exact same length as the existing cart stuffing, see Picture 5.

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Roll the polyester a little tighter with your fingertips, and stick the end in the cartridge. Carefully use your fingertips and the old standby (paperclip) to carefully push the new polyester stuffing all the way down into the cart. Clip away any stray polyester threads that may be sticking out with a scissor or cuticle scissor. Attached picture shows the resulting stuffed 510 cartridge.

Add some eLiquid, and your newly stuffed cartridge is now ready for vaping!
 

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So I'm guessing its not a "good" thing that I've been washing (really just rinsing and squeezing) and re-using my original 801 filler since July 10???!!!

I have noticed that now my batting is quite stiff... But then again I'm a constant re-dripper!

Anyone thing this is a bad idea?

I'm thinking of pulling into the next grocery store I see to pick up some tea bags!

I'll make my decision in the next 30 min if anyone thinks I should!

Thanks.
 

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So I'm guessing its not a "good" thing that I've been washing (really just rinsing and squeezing) and re-using my original 801 filler since July 10???!!!

I have noticed that now my batting is quite stiff... But then again I'm a constant re-dripper!

Anyone thing this is a bad idea?
Bump - good idea?
 
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