Reuleaux RX200 Velocity RDA. Im BURNING WAY TOO MUCH LIQUID!
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Why not?
I run Dual coils at .8ohm. That's 2 nice size 1.2ohm coils with plenty of wicking area for excellent flavor production....................@30w
So actually only running 15w per coil
That is almost Tootlepuffing an RDA
Why not?
I run Dual coils at .8ohm. That's 2 nice size 1.2ohm coils with plenty of wicking area for excellent flavor production....................@30w
So actually only running 15w per coil
That is almost Tootlepuffing an RDA
AAhhhh a .3 dual @ 42 watts, and his goal is to ?
Im BURNING WAY TOO MUCH LIQUID!
Hmm.. general rule of thumb, the more you vape, the quicker the juice is used; therefore, the bigger the clouds you blow, then obviously that's your juice gone. Gawd I'm just awful
To conserve juice you could build higher ohms, and even maybe change devices, to tootle-puff, but then this is not what you went for.
To conserve juice you could build higher ohms, and even maybe change devices, to tootle-puff, but then this is not what you went for.
Sounds like we're headed in the right direction and I'm glad you found something that works for you now
The Velocity RDA is known to be a great atty and I believe it can be tuned down well for less power while still making very nice flavor. I've had one for a few weeks but I haven't actually tried it until now.
Normally I set up for around 40 watts using dual coils with either 27 or 24 gauge Kanthal as that seems to be my sweet spot. I can get a good vape with those builds between 35-45 watts. Tonight I decided to try the Velocity at lower power for its first build and went for 30 watts.
Here's the build in SE. Dual coils using twisted 31 gauge Kanthal aiming for 0.5 ohms. I didn't think I could do this with my 27G Kanthal and I had the 31 gauge, so I went with that. I'm vaping it now at 30 watts and IMO it's very good. It ended up at 0.6 ohms, but I'm inexperienced with twisted builds and also vertical coils so that's what I'm blaming for the inaccuracy
. Here are a few shots of the build.Non-contact coils (I like that for better flavor):
Wicked with Koh Gen Do:
The lower air slots are not opened wide and the upper are closed. I opened the slots a little more after a while:
I'm really liking this vape at 30 watts. Similar flavor and TH I'm used to with my typical 90% PG juices at 40 watts. It isn't as aggressive a vape as I'm used to in that it doesn't vape as fast, but I'm going to give it some time and see how it goes. I will also see how the twisted wire stands up over time. I'm pretty sure it will reduce my juice consumption if I stick with it
A similar build could probably be done using 27 gauge Kanthal, but it wouldn't be the same. Ultimately it's up to you to try things and see what works best for you. The devil is in the details
Dual coils can be used to increase power without burning juice, or to reduce the heat flux at a given power level. Either way, if that's good for someone it will work well for them
Just a little correction. You are running dual 1.6ohm coils to create a single .8ohm circuit, which you are running 30watts through. You aren't running 15watts per coil, that's not how it works, it is one circuit with 30watts runing through the whole thing.Why not?
I run Dual coils at .8ohm. That's 2 nice size 1.2ohm coils with plenty of wicking area for excellent flavor production....................@30w
So actually only running 15w per coil
That is almost Tootlepuffing an RDA
Yep, thinking about 2 builds at once. Yes, 2x 1.6 for my .8ohm and 2x 1.2 for my Magma .6ohm build.
I have 6 Magma's for flavor testing
You miss the point. Op's Update:
From .22ohm TO .3ohm
From 100w TO 42w
A significant reduction in consumption by the numbers.
Still plenty of room for improvement.
*single VS. Dual
Single .5ohm build 30w = Nice vape
Dual @ .5ohm / 30w = Much nicer Vape, less heat per coil, more overall flavor, same power consumption.
No different than asking Why 26ga instead of 32Ga...........Why watts/Volts over TC ......... preference.
Dual coils can be used to increase power without burning juice, or to reduce the heat flux at a given power level. Either way, if that's good for someone it will work well for them
Dual wicks go through more juice ........................
Yep, thinking about 2 builds at once. Yes, 2x 1.6 for my .8ohm and 2x 1.2 for my Magma .6ohm build.
I have 6 Magma's for flavor testing
You miss the point. Op's Update:
From .22ohm TO .3ohm
From 100w TO 42w
A significant reduction in consumption by the numbers.
Still plenty of room for improvement.
*single VS. Dual
Single .5ohm build 30w = Nice vape
Dual @ .5ohm / 30w = Much nicer Vape, less heat per coil, more overall flavor, same power consumption.
No different than asking Why 26ga instead of 32Ga...........Why watts/Volts over TC ......... preference.
Agreed on the single coil, that should yield pretty damn good results.................
Sounds like we're headed in the right direction and I'm glad you found something that works for you now
The Velocity RDA is known to be a great atty and I believe it can be tuned down well for less power while still making very nice flavor. I've had one for a few weeks but I haven't actually tried it until now.
Normally I set up for around 40 watts using dual coils with either 27 or 24 gauge Kanthal as that seems to be my sweet spot. I can get a good vape with those builds between 35-45 watts. Tonight I decided to try the Velocity at lower power for its first build and went for 30 watts.
Here's the build in SE. Dual coils using twisted 31 gauge Kanthal aiming for 0.5 ohms. I didn't think I could do this with my 27G Kanthal and I had the 31 gauge, so I went with that. I'm vaping it now at 30 watts and IMO it's very good. It ended up at 0.6 ohms, but I'm inexperienced with twisted builds and also vertical coils so that's what I'm blaming for the inaccuracy
Non-contact coils (I like that for better flavor):
Wicked with Koh Gen Do:
The lower air slots are not opened wide and the upper are closed. I opened the slots a little more after a while:
I'm really liking this vape at 30 watts. Similar flavor and TH I'm used to with my typical 90% PG juices at 40 watts. It isn't as aggressive a vape as I'm used to in that it doesn't vape as fast, but I'm going to give it some time and see how it goes. I will also see how the twisted wire stands up over time. I'm pretty sure it will reduce my juice consumption if I stick with it
A similar build could probably be done using 27 gauge Kanthal, but it wouldn't be the same. Ultimately it's up to you to try things and see what works best for you. The devil is in the details
I've gone to Lowe's a few times looking at smaller bit kits and contemplated building on spaced coils for a little while now. All the bits I own are way larger than I need and drywall screws with very spaced out threading, so I'll have to pick something up and give it a shot.
The build I put on my alpha ohmega Rebuildable tank was just a couple more wraps, coming out at a .4 dual, 26g, koh gen do wick (VERY long to tuck into those pockets. Like 1/2 an in.) just around 30 watts and it's really nice. I think I've found my preferred resistance. With the Reuleax I'll have to charge my batteries annually lol.
I tried adding photos but file size is too large :/
Just a suggestion, instead of going back and forth on whose preference is better, how about explaining why you feel that way and which does what to support your theory so people can check it out for themselves.
*single VS. Dual
Single .5ohm build 30w = Nice vape
Dual @ .5ohm / 30w = Much nicer Vape, less heat per coil, more overall flavor, same power consumption.
I've wondered about this for a while now actually. Wouldn't dual coil use more battery amps to create the same 30w since there is more coil mass, ie two coils vs one there by increasing overall power consumption as it relates to battery life?
I'm the wrong one to ask, friend. BUT - and I hope I can explain this accurately as I picture it in my head- both coils, are in the same circuit, as it reads on an ohm meter, you have ONE number of resistance. A good video to watch to understand this, as he explains it a LOT better is, "Understanding sub ohm & vaping smart, battery safety, ohms law, and voltage drop." by Big Lou East Coast ... Something.
No Amperage increases with Resistance Drop or voltage increase(?). .5ohm is .5ohm.
2.0ohm is 2.0ohm.
(1) .5ohm coil, (2) 1.0ohm Coils, (4) 2.0ohm coils <in parallel> are all .5ohm total resistance.
Lets do the math another way....
I have this spool of wire that will give me 0.1 ohms per wrap. So if I want to build a 0.5 ohm single coil I'd need a whole whooping 5 wraps.
If I were to take the same exact wire and build me a 0.5 ohm DUAL or parallel build I'd need 10 wraps per coil to achieve 1.0 ohms per coil and 0.5 ohms in parallel.
The dual coil build has 4X the surface area and mass of the single coil build requiring more power to heat up and vaporizing more juice.
If you want less juice consumption use less surface area and less power.
I have this spool of wire that will give me 0.1 ohms per wrap. So if I want to build a 0.5 ohm single coil I'd need a whole whooping 5 wraps.
If I were to take the same exact wire and build me a 0.5 ohm DUAL or parallel build I'd need 10 wraps per coil to achieve 1.0 ohms per coil and 0.5 ohms in parallel.
The dual coil build has 4X the surface area and mass of the single coil build requiring more power to heat up and vaporizing more juice.
If you want less juice consumption use less surface area and less power.
In my experience there is much more to it than that. Dual coils at say 30 watts will go though about the same amount of juice as a single coil at 30 watts, but it's not the same vape. These setups will have some combination of different heat flux, heat capacity, wire gauge, you get the idea.
I've found the biggest factor for juice consumption is power applied. Yes, there are other factors too, but the number of coils did not make much difference when I experimented with it.
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Good to hear that. Vape on
I have never found that totally possible on an internet forum, but it is a great idea
crxess nailed it for VV and mechanical mods.
For variable wattage and TC mods resistance is irrelevant, it's all about the watts. Set 30 watts and any build that can be handled by the mod's voltage regulator will draw about the same power from the battery. Differences in this scenario come from differing voltage regulator efficiency at different voltage outputs.
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