Ruyan e-pipe vs. DSE601 e-pipe

[howard]

I did a search for more information regarding these two models. But only came up with a thread that was a year old and did not relay much in terms of the differences between the two items.

I know that the DSE601 has been reviewed before. And it seems that it was purchased via "Heaven Gifts", to the best of my knowledge only they offer the "Ruyan e-pipe".

I'm curious if anyone has had any experience with the "Ruyan e-pipe" and/or compared it to the DSE601. In the sample picture they appear almost to be the same item.

It was also mentioned that there were many knockoffs of the DSE601, so I'm curious what the lifespan/craftsmanship/durability of either of these two e-pipes.

And a recommendation on where it would be more reliable to order these from. I'm currently contemplating between "Heaven Gifts" & "Eastmall" both suppliers from China. The US suppliers seem to charge a tad more, but I have not factored in the cost of S&H, so only more research will confirm this.

Thanks in advance.

 

[jim420]

Sorry...I only have been using the DSE601, but I have been happy as a clam with it. Reliable, batt and cart last a good long time, and it has a good "heft" to it.
Why mess with a good thing?

 

[jim420]

I have found a U.S. supplier that when you consider shipping charges and time lag from China, seems worth it to me...I'll PM the link to you (I wouldn't want to accused of advertising)...But I have dealt with Heaven Gifts and they are reputable in all that I have dealt with them. The shipping charges and time to get here are my only issues, and they aren't responsible for that.

 

[howard]

I have found a U.S. supplier that when you consider shipping charges and time lag from China, seems worth it to me...I'll PM the link to you (I wouldn't want to accused of advertising)...But I have dealt with Heaven Gifts and they are reputable in all that I have dealt with them. The shipping charges and time to get here are my only issues, and they aren't responsible for that.

Ah, thanks. I replied to your PM, inquiring about whether or not you've had a good experience with ecigarettecigar.com in the past, but it seems you've already answered that question here on the thread. Thanks, I'll definitely keep them in mind when I make my purchase.

I'm still rather curious how the "Ruyan e-pipe" performs against the "DSE601" though.

And to be honest, I was kind of hoping to make a lump sum purchase from one vendor instead of having to wait for multiple packages.

Other items I'm looking to buy were:
M401 atomizers + batteries + maybe some empty cartridges
510 atomizers + batteries + some empty cartridges

It's unfortunate that not one supplier that I've come across appears to have all the items I need. Although I'm more inclined to go with Eastmall since they're having a sampler special going on now.

 

[bri1270]

From what I can gather, the Ruyan E-Pipe is made of real wood, and carries a 5 year warranty. The DSE601 is probably plastic and carries a one year warranty (From Heaven Gifts). I can't see any other discernible differences between them. Wayne at HG is absolutely fantastic and does in fact honor his warranty with no questions asked. I typically order all of my spare parts from him as well as liquids.

Shawn at LitecigUSA also has the DSE601. He recently had the counterfeit model, but quickly replaced them with the true DSE. Unfortunately, his warranty is only 14 days, which is good enough to cover any out of box issues. He currently has them in stock.

I ordered a 601 from Litecig and I ordered a spare atomizer from HG. That way I have a one year warranty on one of the atomizers anyway.

Of course it does look like David Yang is now carrying everything you want to buy and he has a good liquid deal and free shipping on orders over $200, so that might be your best bet.

 

[howard]

From what I can gather, the Ruyan E-Pipe is made of real wood, and carries a 5 year warranty. The DSE601 is probably plastic and carries a one year warranty (From Heaven Gifts). I can't see any other discernible differences between them. Wayne at HG is absolutely fantastic and does in fact honor his warranty with no questions asked. I typically order all of my spare parts from him as well as liquids.

Shawn at LitecigUSA also has the DSE601. He recently had the counterfeit model, but quickly replaced them with the true DSE. Unfortunately, his warranty is only 14 days, which is good enough to cover any out of box issues. He currently has them in stock.

I ordered a 601 from Litecig and I ordered a spare atomizer from HG. That way I have a one year warranty on one of the atomizers anyway.

Of course it does look like David Yang is now carrying everything you want to buy and he has a good liquid deal and free shipping on orders over $200, so that might be your best bet.

Actually, HG also has the DSE601 atomizer in "rose wood". You may be right though, perhaps the original item is plastic but should you decide to upgrade or replace the atomizer. It's an option.

Yes, David Yang had pretty much all the items I was looking for....Unfortunately... the lowest 8mg liquids are out of stock at this moment. Hopefully they'll re-stock in a few days. I'm not entirely in a hurry.

Thanks for clarifying the noticeable differences between the two models.

 

[bri1270]

It's purely a guess on my part based on the information given in regards to the Ruyan E-Pipe and the lack of information provided for the DSE.

RUYAN rose wood e-pipe is meticulously crafted from the best rose wood. You may clearly see the noble and elegant wood grain with color from light yellow to purple red. You can even smell the fragrance of the rose wood.

The "Rose Wood" atomizer is listed under the DSE601 spare parts as well, and it does not have a description.

I'm sure someone that owns the 601 can chime in.

Why not buy 36mg liquid and cut it down to 8mg? That would actually save you some money in the long run.

I actually have a little seller's remorse. I recently sold off my entire 510 inventory because I was tired of doing the supplier shuffle for parts and cost...now David has them and they're reasonably priced. I used the funds from the sale of my 510 gear to purchase the 601, 601 atomizer, some juice and a few 801 atomizers.

 

[howard]

Why not buy 36mg liquid and cut it down to 8mg? That would actually save you some money in the long run.

That's actually quite sound advice, unfortunately I'm new to this whole thing and I don't know if I want to risk poisoning myself . I absolutely abhor needles and it seems like cutting this sort of material requires somewhat of a lab(granted cheaper) setup.

I might entertain the idea of going with 18mg of Eastmall's liquid special but I'll give it another 2 or 3 days before I make my decision.

Thanks though, for all your clarifications & suggestions. Much appreciated!

 

[asidrave]

the 601 pipe bowl is indeed made of real wood...

as far as a difference between the ruyan pipe and the 601...price and warranty...build quality must be very similar. im sure those who own a 601 can vouch that the 601 is well crafted.

i really enjoy using my 601...it has become my primary device and it works great

 

[asidrave]

here are 2 reviews on the 601.

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/video-reviews/15490-dse-601-e-pipe-review-asidrave.html

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...cigusas-dse-601-e-pipe-video-review-demo.html

 

[howard]

the 601 pipe bowl is indeed made of real wood...

as far as a difference between the ruyan pipe and the 601...price and warranty...build quality must be very similar. im sure those who own a 601 can vouch that the 601 is well crafted.

i really enjoy using my 601...it has become my primary device and it works great

lol, I don't question that. In fact, your video review was what I was referring to earlier. That look on your face when you vaped from it the first time, was priceless. It's also what's motivating me to get one. I'm just trying to figure out which would be a better/worthwhile investment.

 

[asidrave]

lol, I don't question that. In fact, your video review was what I was referring to earlier. That look on your face when you vaped from it the first time, was priceless. It's also what's motivating me to get one. I'm just trying to figure out which would be a better/worthwhile investment.

that is a great question...i dont know of anyone here with a genuine Ruyan e-pipe.

i can say this...for the most part...everyone here who has a 601 enjoys it...i have not yet read a thread or a reply of some sort bashing or disliking the 601.

 

[howard]

To be honest, I'm leaning more towards the DSE601. For the price point, it seems like a worthy investment. I know that things are prone to break and over time, wear and tear usually sets in.

From what I've read, the Ruyan e-pipe has a longer/better warranty but it also means using only their proprietary cartridges(although I'm sure other suppliers have them), I'm not sure how they'd make that determination. At that price point it seems a tad bit excessive. Plus, having to ship the item back & forth to China seems like a drag.

Hopefully someone will chime that owns a Ruyan e-pipe. The "ebony" version seems nice in all it's glory but I doubt anyone would spend the money on it. Anyone that doesn't have deep deep pockets.

 

[bri1270]

the 601 pipe bowl is indeed made of real wood...

as far as a difference between the ruyan pipe and the 601...price and warranty...build quality must be very similar. im sure those who own a 601 can vouch that the 601 is well crafted.

i really enjoy using my 601...it has become my primary device and it works great

Thanks for the clarification Raul. I was making assumptions based on the descriptions at Ruyandirect.com, and reaching for a reason other than simply warranty for the increase in cost of the Ruyan over the DSE.

I just bought the DSE601 based on your video review. I have no doubts about the build quality and I totally expect it to become my primary device.

Howard - All you need in order to cut the 36mg liquid is some USP grade PG, then simply dilute the 36 with the PG...no lab necessary. I use 10ml bottles to keep the math simple, and I typically use 2.5 to 3ml of 36mg to 7.5 to 7ml of PG. That puts me somewhere between 9 and 11 mg. and to be honest the only reason I use that much is for flavor. I have found that with some liquids (like Turkish Blended from Heaven Gifts) I can use 1-2ml of liquid to 8-9ml of PG and still get adequate flavor. I'm to the point now that nicotine content is secondary and flavor is most important.

 

[howard]

Howard - All you need in order to cut the 36mg liquid is some USP grade PG, then simply dilute the 36 with the PG...no lab necessary. I use 10ml bottles to keep the math simple, and I typically use 2.5 to 3ml of 36mg to 7.5 to 7ml of PG. That puts me somewhere between 9 and 11 mg. and to be honest the only reason I use that much is for flavor. I have found that with some liquids (like Turkish Blended from Heaven Gifts) I can use 1-2ml of liquid to 8-9ml of PG and still get adequate flavor. I'm to the point now that nicotine content is secondary and flavor is most important.

Sound good. Perhaps I'll give that a try if David doesn't restock on the 8mg liquids.

After reading your directions it seems easy enough. Hopefully it's easier done than said.

Thanks for providing such detailed instructions.

 

[howard]

I just ordered a genuine Ruyan pipe from Ruyandirect (or Heaven Gifts or whatever it's called).

Please be sure to get back to us on what you think of the product. I'm really quite curious.

Btw, good luck with your business. Economy will slowly but surely recooperate eventually.

 

[bri1270]

Wyz - You must be doing the math all wrong if you think smoking would be cheaper. You need to project the savings over time...even if it takes you a couple of years...you know like Wall Street or the banks. Just continue to buy whatever you want knowing that eventually it will either even out or you'll be ahead of the game.

Honestly though, I considered the Ruyan Pipe just to see what the difference is, but couldn't bring myself to do it.

I do look at it as a yearly expense, and I was slated to spend between $2.5K and $3K on cigarettes this year depending on how much I smoked and cost/tax increases, so as long as I stay lower than $2,500 I'm feeling okay.

 

[bri1270]

I asked Wayne at HG what the difference is between the DSE601 and the Ruyan. Here's his response:

RUYAN products are always much more expensive because the quality is much better. They are also more reliable.
RUYAN e-pipe is better in quality than the DSE601 e-pipe. But DSE601 is better in vapor production.
RUYAN e-pipe comes with 5 year replacement warranty, while DSE601 comes with 1 year replacement warranty.

 

[maskgeek]

Better in quality but less vapor than the DSE601? What does that mean?
I also ordered an e-pipe from them and will get it soon.

 

[lovebird]

I have vaped thru Ruyan e-pipe for one month. Its vape is fine.
I ordered DSE601 the day before yesterday to compare them.