Ruyan vs DSE601

[sandy]

Wow, bummer Sandy. Maybe I just got lucky with my 601? I noticed the tendency to leak into the bowl with the first one I had, so I soon developed the habit of "hanging up the pipe to drip dry" overnight. I've had no leakage problems with the bowls I bought to replace the one I dropped and cracked. I have been alternating them to even out the wear, so even though I'm approaching The Dreaded One Month Mark, they'll probably last thru December. I see no reason why they won't go longer still. I think the extra attention I have to give the 601 is a fair exchange for the drastically reduced price. It's really almost no effort at all considering all the crap I had to go through to keep my super-mini going much less producing a consistently decent vape.
However, given your experiences I'm going to start setting a few bucks aside towards the purchase of a genuine Ruyan. If the 601 is heaven, then the Ruyan should be Heaven with Bacon & Beer!

you are the passionate pipe-vaporer and if you continue with the daily treatment with your 601 you will be able to make the pipe last perhaps even over the 2 months, I really keep my fingers crossed...

I admit, I'm the lazy one amongst the vaporers. So I just leave my ruyan with batt and full cart laying around somewhere and forget about it (sometimes for 2 days), while I'm vaping my 510s. I could never do this with my 601.

sandy

 

[Walrus]

Does the Ruyan use the same type battery and mouthpiece as the 601 as well? I've been using the 601's for a while... but the price drop on the Ruyan has got me interested.

 

[sandy]

Does the Ruyan use the same type battery and mouthpiece as the 601 as well? I've been using the 601's for a while... but the price drop on the Ruyan has got me interested.

yes they do fit. The orig. battery which you get whith the ruyan last much longer than any dx pipe batt. Don't ask me why, I don't know.

sandy

 

[jboze]

Some very interesting posts here. I can definitely attest to the 601 leaking into the bowl and leading to cracks. I even took the care to drip dry it every night (except for maybe 2-3 nights) and it started to crack in less than a month. Still works fine, but it's become a pain in the ... and the carts aren't wicking well enough for me.

The only thing I'd be worried about with the Ruyan pipe, is that the warranty is void if you use non-Ruyan carts/liquid. Not sure how they can determine that, but would suck to have to send it back after a week or two of use and have them tell you that your warranty isn't valid.

 

[sandy]

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The only thing I'd be worried about with the Ruyan pipe, is that the warranty is void if you use non-Ruyan carts/liquid. Not sure how they can determine that, but would suck to have to send it back after a week or two of use and have them tell you that your warranty isn't valid.

I discussed this warranty issue with Wayne from HG (Heaven Gifts). If there happens to be a faulty manufacturing which is usually found after the first few days there is no problem with warranty and immediate replacement.
I believe that if a ruyan is defective then from the beginning.

sandy

 

[Walrus]

And according to Heaven's Gifts site, the Ruyan carries a 5-year warranty! Yeah, how they'd know it's not Ruyan liquid I couldn't tell ya.

I've pretty much decided to order one. Now I gotta choose between the original and the rosewood.

 

[sandy]

And according to Heaven's Gifts site, the Ruyan carries a 5-year warranty! Yeah, how they'd know it's not Ruyan liquid I couldn't tell ya.

I've pretty much decided to order one. Now I gotta choose between the original and the rosewood.

I really hope you'll enjoy yours like I do mine. Would be glad to hear from you once you got it.

sandy

PS: I do wonder why there aren't other people here with a ruyan....

 

[Walrus]

I really hope you'll enjoy yours like I do mine. Would be glad to hear from you once you got it.

sandy

PS: I do wonder why there aren't other people here with a ruyan....

Price, probably. When I first got started on the 601's, the Ruyan was over $300. If it were still that high, I'd probably not be getting one now. The drop to $150 sold me on it. I hope I have as much luck with mine as you've had with yours. I'll probably be hitting it hard, though. I still have couple of extra 601 atomizers sitting in my storage bin though

 

[Thyestean]

hmm glad I read this thread. I've been thinking about getting my father a 601 for christmas to try and get him vaping instead of smoking. Guess I'll have to look into it more before the time comes

 

[sandy]

Price, probably. When I first got started on the 601's, the Ruyan was over $300. If it were still that high, I'd probably not be getting one now. The drop to $150 sold me on it. I hope I have as much luck with mine as you've had with yours. I'll probably be hitting it hard, though. I still have couple of extra 601 atomizers sitting in my storage bin though

There are official ruyan agencies all over the world who sell them for over $300. I know some folks who bought both (expencive one and the wayne ruyan) they say there is absolutely no difference in wood or technical quality between them neither outside nor inside.

Ruyan China claims that the ruyan from Wayne has not the same quality (?) what ever this means. Other suppliers assert that with the original Ruyan there is the possibility to replace only the atty inside. That makes no sense for me as you can't by the atty as a spare part or so and you still have to send back the whole pipe if there is a problem because only the ruyan agent has technicians who can replace the atty

Well, it may be right, that the ruyan pipe sold by Wayne (HG) does not have this replaceable atty, that doesn't make it less attractive.

sandy

 

[McCordRM]

My only concern with the pipe is that every review I've read or seen on Youtube states
there's a serious loss of flavor. Anyone know if making a stronger juice helps get past
that?

 

[sandy]

My only concern with the pipe is that every review I've read or seen on Youtube states
there's a serious loss of flavor. Anyone know if making a stronger juice helps get past
that?

Perhaps this helps: I use Turkish Blend, Kent and M*boro liquids, and these are really mild flavoured tobacco liquids, in all my e-cigs (510/801 and pipe). All liquids taste different with different e-cigs depending on atty size IMO. If your only concern is a loss of flavor (which I cannot confirm with my pipe) you can choose a stronger flavoured liq. you just have to try out.

Edit: The original ruyan prefilled carts have a strong flavour but you don't get that huge vapour after exhalation as compared to other conventional pipe carts.

sandy

 

[breakfastchef]

My only concern with the pipe is that every review I've read or seen on Youtube states
there's a serious loss of flavor. Anyone know if making a stronger juice helps get past
that?

The draws on the DSE601 can be 'airy' and tend to mute some lightly-flavored liquids. My preference is flue-cured tobacco and RY4 flavors for my DSE601. Some users enjoy Johnson Creek Teneessee Cured and mint flavors for their devices.

 

[route]

i do have both pipe's 1 from HG and 1 from a ruyan suplier and there is a different's between the 2 pipe's.
the one from HG give les taste as the original one.
also the atomizer is completly different.
i prefer my original one, do the HG ones is much better then the 601

 

[sandy]

As I already mentioned I'been vaping my ruyan pipe 1 year now and there is only one liquid I use in it: the RY2 or so called PowerPuff. This liquid gives huge clouds even in the ruyan pipe and the flavor has a good tobacco touch (not sweet).

 

[DallasEd]

No one has touched this thread since last December, but here we go…..

I’ve been using the 601 since the first of April. Here it is almost the end of May and I’ve already burned out the first one and I’ve started on my second 601 with a third one in reserve.

So I bit the bullet and bought a Ruyan. Paid $250 total including shipping to Texas from China. I know it came from China because it was packed surrounded with a Chinese newspaper. (How the heck do they read that stuff?)

It seems like a better pipe than the 601. The body is a little narrower at the bottom of the bowl and the Rosewood has a waxed finish on it rather than a lacquered finish. Really nice to look at. Beautiful. The large end of the stem that fits over the cart has some embossed Chinese script on it and there is some script etched on the brass band that’s in-between the stem and the bowl. I have no idea what they say. There is also an etched serial number on the brass band. The stem fits really nice over the cart holder. I have not had a problem with the stem falling off my 601, but the stem on the Ruyan fits even better. Nicely machined precision.

Inside the bowl, it looks like the battery compartment is surrounded by a stainless steel sleeve. The top jewel cap screws on and off very easily. If you blow into the stem, the air will not pass through to the bowl like on the 601. I don’t know if it’s because of the sleeve or what, but if you can’t blow through the bowl from the stem, I’m guessing the leakage problem that plagues the 601 will not occur. That feature alone should make it perfect for dripping. The 3.7v battery from my 601 works just fine in this Ruyan pipe. (I’m vaping with it right now as my new Ruyan batteries go through the initial 12 hour first charge). The carts from the 601 fit just fine in the Ruyan as well.

The bad points that I’ve noticed as of this first day of ownership of a Ruyan pipe are this:

There is no green LED to tell you if the battery is getting weak. Having had a lot of experience with the 601, this should not be much of an issue. The inhale activated switch has a cut-off at about 2-3 seconds. Not a big deal as you still get a pretty good hit. I suppose it saves wear and tear on the atty. The flavor from my usual menthol juice is a little bit weaker than from my 601 and you don’t get as much air in the draw. I’m not sure if this has anything to do with the flavor reduction or not. I use Strictly E-Juice menthol 24mg which has a good throat hit so the flavor reduction is minimal - it might be an issue if you’re vaping some of the weaker tobacco flavors. It’s nothing I can’t get used to. I have emailed SEJ to ask if they can mix me a juice with more menthol, but I’m not holding my breath over that one. (After not having smoked an analog in over a month now, I can actually hold my breath!) So I may have to do the DIY route and get some menthol crystals to add to the juice - I need that BIG throat hit. I have not tried the carts that come with the pipe as I only vape menthol.

All-in-all, I’m happy. It may cost more up front, but if it will last a year like they say, it’s almost half the cost of spending $70 very two months for a new 601 pipe.

That’s my review.

Ed Williams
Dallas, Texas

 

[MusicBox]

Thanks for that. I am very keen to hear how you go with the Ruyan.
I had a 601, which I loved dearly and lavished attention on. Every night I would back blow through the bowl and leave it inverted to drain juice.
The problem was that as much as I loved that thing, I could never relax and enjoy it. If I was out and about I would have my hand in my jacket pocket constantly checking to see if the atomizer had decided to turn itself on. Or to check that it hadn't decided to spontaneously eject a fair portion of juice into the pocket. I had to have a bundle of napkins with me all the time to wipe up the leaks and be prepared to fiddle with it when the juice decided to stop flowing.
All of this was with the originally supplied pre-filled carts. Which I liked (crazy I know) and still have a pile of just waiting to go.
I inspected this thing every night and even made a stand so that it would drain at the best angle.
One morning, out of nowhere, I went to use it and the bowl had split so badly that the threads had fallen out making the whole thing useless.
The experience lasted just less than a month and even though it was maintenance hell, I still miss her greatly.
Please do come back and update this as I am considering getting a Ruyan towards the end of the year and am very keen to hear your ongoing feelings about it.
Also would be interested to know where you got it. It seems to be an elusive beast.

Thanks again for a great review.

 

[DallasEd]

So far, no complaints. I'll probably post back in a few weeks to give this pipe a chance to prove itself.

I got it at e-cigarette-web.com

$230USD plus shipping.

Ed.

 

[DallasEd]

OK, well, this sucks, actually it doesn't suck. I think the atty is burned out on my $230 pipe less than 30 days in. I've emailed the web site where I got it asking about the warranty.........

I'll keep you posted.

For now I'm back on the 601.

Ed.

 

[DallasEd]

Well, I've been spending the last 30 days trying to get my money back on my ruyan pipe to no avail.

I won't be suggesting to anyone that they spend the extra money and get a ruyan pipe instead of the 601. Also, don't buy anything from E-Cigarette Web.com.

Ed.