No worries about the kind words. Like I said there are VERY FEW of you out there. By YOU I mean family guys working out of their homes to build an internet vaping business and actually adhering to the logical principle, without customers, there is no business. EVERYBODY out there in the vaping biz is selling almost the exact same things. It's prices of course, but right there with prices are how customers are treated after a sale has been made. The business owner standing behind their products, even the ones they bought from some faceless person in China. Stand behind what you sell, treat the customer with respect and offer a fair price. There are way too many BIG GUYS out there who, even in their forums, talk down to their customers or possible customers.
Granted our dealings are extremely limited but reading and watching I can tell you give a crap. By all means make a wood Gripper. Myself I have a personal limit $ wise when it comes to a PV. If it's in my range, there is a GOOD chance I'll get one. I am a hoarder when it comes to PV's and equipment. I have quite a few RBA's and over this winter, my off season, I will sit and start learning. The Atom Bomb is on my list when the funds are there if only because I am curious about it's origins. When someone takes a product and improves upon it, I am intrigued. When they take TWO products, I am Sherlock Holmes on a rampage.
I will only mention first names because I respect the forums guidelines. That brings me to my apology. I forgot to leave out my signature the last posts. I try to remember whenever I go to someone's site that sells equipment to not use that one and when I am on a juice site I try not to use my fave juice signature.
I am by no means a BIG GUY when it comes to spending, but since I quit smoking my ex-g'friend just told me I am about 5k in the hole when it comes to cigarette savings. I am careful where my money goes. Chopper you have Joined Norm "Tully Mars" Tanner's elite so now there's 5. (Got one hell of an ego don't I?) Eric, Carole(with an E), Angela and a guy I call Mave cause I don't know his name just his rep. That's where my equipment $ goes. UNLESS there's a sale so good that I will not insult you guys by asking you to match it. (That is how I found you. Damn those prices on the vmax and Gripper kicked and are still kickin .....) I'm scrounging pennies before the 31st.
You mentioned in a PM to me about your "situation". We are in almost the exact same boat. I just don't have a biz. My step family does and I work for them for now. I mentioned to Eric a while back. It's folks like you that inspire folks like me and others. You guys are building the American Dream. You found a niche, the products and a way to reach the people that want/need those products. You guys cleaned out a closet, room, garage, basement or whatever. You put hard earned money out to take a chance on something you believe in and you remember what it's going to take to keep building that dream. RESPECTING the people that are sending YOU their hard earned money. Never forget "YOU NEED THEM MORE THAN THEY NEED YOU" and you'll be fine.
This is turning into a novella and I am sorry for rambling. I gotta go. Sorry I blabbed so long.