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I had some old spacers from another charger so no problem there. When I get to menu 5 I have tried holding the button on dA and tried letting go of the button an dA, the display just goes blank after about 1 second if I let go of the button. If I hold the button on dA it will just scroll to next choice when I do let go of the button.

When you use the vmax with your AB, what resistance coil are you using? I cant use the vmax on anything below about 2.5 ohms because it seems to have too much voltage even when set to 3v. The voltage calibration seems to be way off. When using vivi nova @ 2.8 ohms 3.1 volts is as high as I can set it without burning juice taste. It is producing tons of vapor @ 3.1v @ 2.8 ohms.
 

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Well I am about halfway thru my second tankfull on my new AB. The flavor is really coming on strong. Vapor production is awesome. The coil still measures 1.7 ohms, vaping on provari @ 3.7v. This works out to about 8 watts. No leaks at all. Working just great.

I noticed that the wick Chopper rolls is a bit smaller in diameter than what I normally roll for my did. Does anyone know what effect the size and mass of the wick has on preformance??? I like the pure or high VG juices and have tried several diffrent wick coil combinations over the past few months. I got turned off of the SS wicks pretty quick but have been giving them another try recently. I have some 500 mesh coming this week for something new to try.

So does anyone have any opinions on how much SS mesh is too much or too little. Obviously it needs to be small enough to fit the wick hole and tall enough for coil wraps to almost bottom of tank, but how much SS mesh do most people like???

Has anybody tried to double and twist the res wire at the top and bottom of coil ( where it goes from wick to the post ) to prevent hot spots in this area? Do I just need to spend more time working with the SS mesh and quit asking so many questions?

All opinions and comments welcome. BTW thanks again Chopper, really liking my new AB.

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Pepper I've gotten a better coil by twisting the top part of the coil wire on mine. I was getting hot spots also and a freind showed me how to do it and it worked for me. It's a PITA but it did work. Thankfully I also got new glasses so I can see it now, lol

After talking to some people in another thread I have started twisting my wire for the coil, and I love it, tho you do have to add wraps
 

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I can't unscrew the top cap for my defcon mini, and I just got it on friday after a seriously long wait for it, any ideas on how to fix this problem?

I can't understand why the cap won't screw off.It screwed on and back off several times just fine before shipping.This is a first for me about the cap not being able to unscrew off.There is no type of glue or anything like that on the cap its just press fitted.So I have no idea on how to help as I've never heard or seen this happen.
 

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If you are going to try the 500 mesh I would roll a solid wick (works much better than having a hole in the middle). I use the jack frost method and the roll tightly by hand....no paperclip or anything. If you have too much mesh in the roll you can always unroll a bit and cut it off until you get the snug fit. If it is a fairly thin wick I would do a water quench to stiffen the wick as well. The tight rolled wick will wick VG with no problem at all. I made a thin walled 500 wick yesterday and it didn't wick well at all.
Well I am about halfway thru my second tankfull on my new AB. The flavor is really coming on strong. Vapor production is awesome. The coil still measures 1.7 ohms, vaping on provari @ 3.7v. This works out to about 8 watts. No leaks at all. Working just great.

I noticed that the wick Chopper rolls is a bit smaller in diameter than what I normally roll for my did. Does anyone know what effect the size and mass of the wick has on preformance??? I like the pure or high VG juices and have tried several diffrent wick coil combinations over the past few months. I got turned off of the SS wicks pretty quick but have been giving them another try recently. I have some 500 mesh coming this week for something new to try.

So does anyone have any opinions on how much SS mesh is too much or too little. Obviously it needs to be small enough to fit the wick hole and tall enough for coil wraps to almost bottom of tank, but how much SS mesh do most people like???

Has anybody tried to double and twist the res wire at the top and bottom of coil ( where it goes from wick to the post ) to prevent hot spots in this area? Do I just need to spend more time working with the SS mesh and quit asking so many questions?

All opinions and comments welcome. BTW thanks again Chopper, really liking my new AB.

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R4nd you might try using rubber gloves or wrap a rubber band around the diffrent parts to get a good grip. Try screwing back and forth, on/off slowly. Thats the only thing I can think of to help you out. Mabee some wd40 as a last resort? if you use wd40 be sure to clean thoroughly.

Foxman, Nancy, and overall THANKS that is just the kind of info I was looking for. My 500 mesh didnt show up today and I have the AB working so good now that I dont want to make any new wicks right now, but sounds like I will try the jack frost method on a thick 500 mesh wick and twist the ends of my coil wire.

If anyone else has any ideas on how to optimize wick performance for vg I would love to hear about it. TIA
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Okay I cannot contain myself any longer.What in the world is the jack frost method?Any pictures or video's on it?Sorry but I've never heard of it.

The jack frost method is where you take the flat unrolled SS Mesh and season it before you roll it. Heat up the sheet till it glows. Go slow and do it evenly, then roll, and season the rolled mesh by quenching and burning liquid as usual.

At least that's what I understand of it.

Here's the original post about it:

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J Frost refers to the fact that you pre-oxidize the mesh before you roll it, without quenching it at all... I also oxidized it again after rolling, paying special attention to the top and bottom. The most significant advantage is that if you do not quench in water the wick will be stronger and more elastic, rather than mushy and friable.

Anyway, you can still burn off PG or juice at the very end... I also used rolling paper...

I rolled the wick first on the thinner Allen key, then I rolled it some more without any core until it fit not-too-snugly in the wick hole. If it is too snug, when it dilates from heat it will become choked.

I coil it outside the PV, over rolling paper, and I just eyeball so that the leads will sort of be in the right place. First time it worked from the first attempt, last time it took me three tries as I kept ending up too low for the positive screw... doesn't matter...

Oh, and then - I learned this after I did my DID on the ProVari - make sure you burn off the paper with an almost drained battery (~3.6 V) - you are more likely to end up with no shorts at all if you first burn the wick at lower voltages.
 
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The jack frost method is where you take the flat unrolled SS Mesh and season it before you roll it. Heat up the sheet till it glows. Go slow and do it evenly, then roll, and season the rolled mesh by quenching and burning liquid as usual.

At least that's what I understand of it.

Here's the original post about it:

Thank you and I tried it with 325 as that's all I have on hand.It seems to be working fine but will know more later after some use.Thank you for the answer and explaining it well plus the quote.
 

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I can't unscrew the top cap for my defcon mini, and I just got it on friday after a seriously long wait for it, any ideas on how to fix this problem?


One of mine came with the cap on pretty tight as well and I thought wow this must be glued on. I started to email Chopper because I thought I was going to have to send it back but I just keep moving it side to side gently from the upper most top(not the tip) and for some reason it came off.
 
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