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Newtovaping94

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There are several regulated mods out there which take external batteries - some have the option to charge them inside the device but I think people tend to remove them and charge them in dedicated chargers.

Vamo and Sigelei are examples of regulated mods that have external batteries.

Isticks and MVPs have built in batteries that cannot be removed and the device is plugged in via USB.

(There are loads of other examples out there I just picked a couple of popular ones).

Hope this helps


It helps indeed ( long ago I had a USB style refillable vape from vaporfi ) which is long gone now.

I was just curious about how to identify a safer mod and vaporizer device as " regulated " and what to look for?

Thanks again


I guess to reword it a bit how can I tell it is regulated if the people at the store don't know anything, lol

I'm assuming regulated just means you can't toast or explode the battery during use
 
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I just wanted to ask upon my arrival back on the 3rd of may, what type of things should I specifically look for in regards to safer regulated devices?
I ask because I don't trust these people at all now so I want to come prepared, I don't care if I get big smoke clouds as long as it is a safe reliable smoke with peace of mind.

Thanks again
Short circuit protection, reverse battery protection, low resistance protection...
Something like this: Sigelei Mini 30W - Black Box Mod
 

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It helps indeed ( long ago I had a USB style refillable vape from vaporfi ) which is long gone now.

I was just curious about how to identify a safer mod and vaporizer device as " regulated " and what to look for?

Thanks again

Look for mods that say they are vv (variable voltage) or vw (variable wattage). I like mods that do both - my main mod I use is the istick 50w. My first mod was the itaste vv4 which is and ego style vv/vw mod. The itaste would fit and work well with the clearomizer you have.

Also there is the basic Ego batteries which are regulated but not vv/vw, these will work with that clearo too. There are vv ego batteries too - Vision Spinner and the Ego Twist.

Most non-regulated mods will say they are 'mech' mods.
 
Howzit,

Reading your posts about getting sold a mech mod as a 1st device just blows my mind and the fact that the people who sold it you KNEW you were a newb is even worse. I totally agree with ratchat and I am actually pretty upset(enough to write a response) to learn that they would be so irresponsible and careless just to make a sale. Personally, I would NEVER go back to that store. Furthermore, I would STOP using that mod you got until you are more familiar with the safety concerns of that type of device. As mentioned, a vv/vw device or any regulated mod would be a wiser first choice. I started off with an ego twist vv battery and a kangertech mini protank3 which is virtually foolproof and pretty safe for a newb. They are both quality products that I still own and still work perfectly which my wife has now started using as she is interested in vaping too.

That being said, I am fairly new to vaping as well but have been lucky enough to have a few friends who knew their stuff and could point me in the right direction when I was a newb. I am by no means an expert but I can make a few suggestions to someone who is just starting out as I was there not too long ago...

First of all, shopping online beats any physical store in my opinion. Better prices and selection(with reviews) to name a few pros but a few obvious cons would be having to wait for shipping and you cant physically hold or try anything before buying. However, there is so much info about anything and everything vape here on ecf as well as awesome peeps who can give you sound advice unlike those azzholes at the shop you went to... There are a bunch of shops around me that I go into occasionally to sample and buy juice but it is almost always cheaper to get stuff online.

My personal experiences were first with an ego twist vv battery and kanger miniprotank3 which I loved as a first ecig. Then I tried an Aspire k1 glassomizer which blew away the kanger in terms of flavor and was stuck on that for awhile but was looking for something more powerful since I started vaping to replace smoking analogs.
Next was a Smoktech zmax mini device which was a vv/vw capable of doing 6v/15w which was a huge step up from a 4.2v ego twist. That with the Aspire k1 kept me happy for months but now I am just getting interested in rebuildables and vaping at higher amps/wattages but still don't yet feel comfortable on a mech so I'm gonna stick with a regulated mod for now... Keep the mech you have as you will most likely want to take your vaping to the next level at some point...

Let me say that I am one to really do my research on anything and everything and I've learned that there are some serious risks involved with vaping at lower ohms and that many things can go wrong without the right info and knowledge. At the same time though, it is relatively safe as long as you know what you are building and the requirements needed for the equipment you are using. I still have a lot to learn but am getting confident that I have enough knowledge to enter into the realm of rebuildables and mechs but am still gonna take it slow and (hopefully) safe.

I would suggest starting with a reputable site like MVS(myvaporstore) and possibly look into getting an ego-type battery paired with a clearomizer of some sort as it is basically plug-n-play meaning there is nothing to build or test first. Just fill the juice, charge the battery and you're good to go. The only maintenance required is to change out the atomizer every so often and buy more juice. Do your own research and/or ask questions is my advice and don't always trust the first thing you read.

Hope I have helped a bit and wish you luck!

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Hello New and welcome to the forum. While many have quit cigs using basic starter equipment (myself included), If I had it to do over again knowing what I now know I would have started with better vape gear.

If you're willing to make an investment in vape gear I'd suggest an iStick 30W (2400 mah) or 50W (4400 mah). They are very user friendly. Both are "pass thru" recharging and range in price from $35 to $50. The other option for a mod is to get a brand where the batteries can be removed and charged on a battery charger, independent of the vape mod. The downside is the additional cost of a separate battery charger, and additional batteries. The ipv 2 is a nice example . I wouldn't suggest buying a mod that is under the 30 watts needed for growth into sub ohm tanks (thinking down the road should you desire).

I've used a few different starter tanks similar to your CE 4. What I consider my first great tank was the Aspire Nautilus Mini ($28). 5 pack of coils ($15). Online shopping is easier on the wallet than the local vape shops in my experience. You can check these links for products. ---

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Good luck in your journey.
 

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All i can say is WOW! i cant believe they sold you a mech as your first, what a bunch of jerks! they would never see me again good juice or not. clearly they have no concern for your safety, people like that are bad for the vaping world, i say open your browser and start shoping online, most items from most places will be at your door in a couple of days, hope everything works out for you, Happy Vaping!
 

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ICR batteries are no longer recommended for any vaping use, especially not for a mechanical.
I would not use it at all, not one vape.

Regulated means power output to the delivery device is regulated via a chip, a mech is not, most if not all regulated APV's also have built in protection circuitry.
If the shop doesn't know something as basic as this I'd stay away from them.
What they sold you could become dangerous in seconds if one tiny little ' thing ' goes wrong.

It is way past obvious the people at the store know less than jack doodlely squat about vaping if they dont know what a regulated mod / apv/ device is.
 

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ICR batteries are no longer recommended for any vaping use, especially not for a mechanical.
I would not use it at all, not one vape.

Regulated means power output to the delivery device is regulated via a chip, a mech is not, most if not all regulated APV's also have built in protection circuitry.
If the shop doesn't know something as basic as this I'd stay away from them.
What they sold you could become dangerous in seconds if one tiny little ' thing ' goes wrong.

It is way past obvious the people at the store know less than jack doodlely squat about vaping if they dont know what a regulated mod / apv/ device is.



Yeah and oddly enough I had an electrical vape in my right hand and this mechanical vape in my left for the same exact PRICE and they still said there is no difference ( and they did pick out the mechanical and hand it to me first, it was only me who inquired about the electrical at all. ) So it wasn't about the money it was just plain stupidity on their part ( and somewhat on my part )

I'm not using it at all currently, I'm going back to the store with my wife on the 3rd of may and demand they switch it out for the electrical. I can then get a proper battery after that for the electrical one.

I appreciate everyones input and you guys probably saved me from an exploding vape and I can't thank you enough. However I am in an unfortunate situation, where I am located currently there is only that one vape store and if I choose to do online shopping I am going to have to wait 3+ months just for the customs to clear because of my location so it is not possible for me to shop online unfortunately. I'm just going to take the education you guys have given me here and make my next trade out or next purchase from them an educated one.

Trust me if I could never go back to that store I wouldn't, I just have no choice and have a huge dependency on tobacco so I have to quit and get on Vaporizers.

Thanks again
 

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Yeah and oddly enough I had an electrical vape in my right hand and this mechanical vape in my left for the same exact PRICE and they still said there is no difference ( and they did pick out the mechanical and hand it to me first, it was only me who inquired about the electrical at all. ) So it wasn't about the money it was just plain stupidity on their part ( and somewhat on my part )

I'm not using it at all currently, I'm going back to the store with my wife on the 3rd of may and demand they switch it out for the electrical. I can then get a proper battery after that for the electrical one.

I appreciate everyones input and you guys probably saved me from an exploding vape and I can't thank you enough. However I am in an unfortunate situation, where I am located currently there is only that one vape store and if I choose to do online shopping I am going to have to wait 3+ months just for the customs to clear because of my location so it is not possible for me to shop online unfortunately. I'm just going to take the education you guys have given me here and make my next trade out or next purchase from them an educated one.

Trust me if I could never go back to that store I wouldn't, I just have no choice and have a huge dependency on tobacco so I have to quit and get on Vaporizers.

Thanks again
Is there anything else you can tell us about the electrical mod?
 

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Is there anything else you can tell us about the electrical mod?

Sadly not much, I'm kicking myself for not buying it though.

It was a metallic color like this mechanical but it had a screen on the front that lit up orange with the settings 1 - 5 that could adjust, it had the button nicely placed on the upper side which felt comfortable unlike the mechanical that has the button on the bottom area to make contact. It came with a clearomizer similar to the shorter one I have pictured above and the lady told me that the clearomizer is not customizable like the mechanical one was.

It came with the same battery and external battery charger as this mechanical did that I listed too.
Other than that I don't know much. I'm assuming since it had a screen and electrical placed button for activation and settings it has to be a regulated vape, I will end up replacing battery though when and if I do get it.

I'm just staring at all my E liquid.. Lol

Oh and it had 2 tiny red buttons near screen to adjust the settings. It was same cost as mecanical, 50 bucks.
 
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There were some good suggestions by the other peeps regarding your mod. Perhaps make a list of devices you want and bring it in to see if they have them since its obvious they aren't very knowledgeable.

That guy that recommended at least a 30w regulated mod such as the istick or ipv is right on since you will be investing in and preparing for your most likely step up to a stronger vape.

I myself have looked at those 2 devices and the istick will not require you to buy any batteries/charger same like the MVP3. The ipv looked good too but I ended up getting a Sigelei mini 30w simply due to its smaller size. They all basically do the same thing just depends on what you are looking for

Its a bummer that you are forced to go back to that shop but at least you are now armed with proper info.

Aloha
 

Newtovaping94

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There were some good suggestions by the other peeps regarding your mod. Perhaps make a list of devices you want and bring it in to see if they have them since its obvious they aren't very knowledgeable.

That guy that recommended at least a 30w regulated mod such as the istick or ipv is right on since you will be investing in and preparing for your most likely step up to a stronger vape.

I myself have looked at those 2 devices and the istick will not require you to buy any batteries/charger same like the MVP3. The ipv looked good too but I ended up getting a Sigelei mini 30w simply due to its smaller size. They all basically do the same thing just depends on what you are looking for

Its a bummer that you are forced to go back to that shop but at least you are now armed with proper info.

Aloha

Yes I will be armed with information I am listing from here and the dangers of mechanical vaping for new people.
They may even learn a thing or two and save someone else from the same mistake. Worst case I educate them with what you guys have taught me and just keep the mechanical for the future.

It is my knowledge that all electrical vapes are regulated? So if it's electrical I'm safe ? I'm just making sure sorry for any redundancy.
 

Newtovaping94

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Yes, most regulated mods are safer. Have you checked their website?

So all electrical are regulated right off the bat?

I tried to check their website and was unable to do so, they only had a website open in AU and I'm currently in asia and could not locate their asian counterpart store.

The Australian store didn't have any of the vapes that I saw earlier today. Thanks again brandon
 

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So all electrical are regulated right off the bat?

I tried to check their website and was unable to do so, they only had a website open in AU and I'm currently in asia and could not locate their asian counterpart store.

The Australian store didn't have any of the vapes that I saw earlier today. Thanks again brandon
Regulated, more or less, refers to the control you have of your vape. Some eliquids taste better at a higher voltage/wattage, some at a lower voltage/wattage. Ideally, you would want a regulated device that has some built-in protections. Not all devices are made the same. Most regulated devices made nowadays have a lot of protection features so that your device can last. A common problem that we used to have with regulated devices was the lack of reverse polarity/battery protection. What that means is if you put your battery in backwards the circuit board would fry itself, destroying the device instantly. Keep a look out for that. Also, know what the device can handle. Hopefully it comes with some type of user manual to let you know.
 
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