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SB verses GG

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  1. Vaughanie

    Vaughanie Super Member ECF Veteran

    Apr 26, 2009
    Yeah, I've managed to source Noalax from the GG U.K. supplier (who has just started supplying it). So thumbs up, guys... As it turned out it wasn't an failure problem on my GG, just that in swapping to and 18650 v battery from a CR2 the spring wasn't long enough to push the battery to the end. I've now resolved this with spacers, so I'm a happy bunny again. :)

    I'm holding off on the SB for the time being. Prodegy 2 has my attention as does the GLV 5v. However, I'm awaiting delivery of a GGTS which will do 5v with an AC/DC unit and 6v and 7.2v on specially designed atomisers which promise great vapour production and flavour with less risk of frying atties at higher voltages. So I'm looking forward to trying those particularly on the Auto Feeding System.

    GGs avoids battery 5v because of the the requirement of putting capacitors and wires inside which will at some point likely lead to problems. I can see the logic really. Keep the device as simple as possible and you're less likely to have issues down the road. The moment you start putting wires and capacitors in these devices you're asking for problems as we've seen with non-mechanical switches in some of the PVR mods.

    However, I think I'm prepared to take the risk for a pure 5v battery device if it's cheap for the often mentioned "sweet spot". That and I'm still tempted by ownership of other devices - although I'm wondering if this is a severe case of gadgetitis <G> It's still nice to have a different PVR to reflect your different moods and to colour match the particular outfit you're wearing that day, perhaps lol etc.

    Laudie, am I struggling for an excuse here for my apparent rampant weakness for consumerist nonsense?
  2. WhatAClumsyGirl

    WhatAClumsyGirl Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Nov 1, 2009
    Mtns of Tennessee
    Just my opinion here..but i wanted to add...I had a Silver Bullet...thought I had too many mod's and sold it. I MISS IT...The Silver Bullet had a smooth unique vape that the other's don't. I don't know what it is about it...but I want another...and plan on purchasing one very soon. Good luck to you.
  3. randyc

    randyc Senior Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Apr 26, 2009
    Florence SC
    The SB is definitely the best. I have both the SB and the BB. I vape 6 volt with the BB and 3.7 with the SB. I never have problems with attys or with the switches. About once a week I clean the threads and reapply NOALOX. I tend to be a little partial to the SB I think because a charged battery lasts at LEAST a full day.
  4. CatVTTV

    CatVTTV Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 26, 2009
    Tyne & Wear, UK
    I own both the SB and the GG Trans and GG Grant, all are excellent PV's.

    There is no such thing as the perfect PV as yet, everyone of them has something that isnt perfect.

    I use all of them in rotation, I love the GG's for their beauty, and there is no denying that, and I love the SB for its simplicity and reliability, but would I recommend one above the other? no, absolutely not, as PV's they are brilliant, all of them.

    Its down to each individual to decide which is right for them.

    GG runs at 3.7v and 6v as does the SB.

    I have had problems with the caps on the GG, removing them, but that was my own fault for not cleaning often enough.

    These days I clean them with Bicarbonate of Soda, as I dont have NOALOX as yet, and that does the job just fine.
  5. WhatAClumsyGirl

    WhatAClumsyGirl Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Nov 1, 2009
    Mtns of Tennessee
    Pet...that avitar picture totally cracks me up...
  6. VapnRealtor

    VapnRealtor Moved On ECF Veteran

    When you get the chance definitely get the Noalox its amazing how great it works and you wont have to deal with the maintenance nearly as much.

  7. CatVTTV

    CatVTTV Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 26, 2009
    Tyne & Wear, UK
    Thanks Clumsy.. you can tell the folk that work in animal rescue...hahaha, we have that weird humour...haha

    I recently got some stuff from a Metal Fabricator, and its made by Locktite, which was good, but cant source it online, but I see that Lisa over at Cloud9 now has some, so will get some of that Noalox.
  8. IdolLurker

    IdolLurker Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Dec 13, 2009
    Florida USA
    Oh your "technopaloosa for dummies" really helped. I most certainly appreciate your detailed explanation and now the "light" came on!! This should be published in wikipedia - I've read it a couple of times now.

    So believe it or not I still have a couple of other questions...:confused:

    Is it better or not to have a switch that somehow adds yet another variable if there is a resistor if you want to stay at 5 volts? Will this help to save the attys from getting too much power and blowing out? I have also heard they are developing a high voltage atty for some of the mods. Do these new high volt attys actually take the extra voltage and heat ok so they last longer?

    Note: Quote above was just an excerpt. See original post by The_janty_Misfit for the complete fantastic details.
  9. grimmer255

    grimmer255 Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    Another mod collector :). And your absolutely right each mod brings its own unique signature to the table. But the one I use the most is a secret....
  10. Wolf

    Wolf Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 10, 2009
    Kingston, WA, U.S.A.
    I got my 18650 batteries yesterday. I'm wondering why I would ever want to go up to 6v when the 3.7v produces soooo much vapor. I'm sure I will try it eventually, but am so content with my SB at 3.7. The flavors are so much better. I can't wait for my other new flavors to come in. :thumbs:
  11. VapnRealtor

    VapnRealtor Moved On ECF Veteran

    Back when I got my SB I thought the same too cause going from a standard 510 ecig to the SB at 3.7 you'd think how can anything be better. After reading a bunch I was curious and decided to test it out 1st by getting some Energizer disposable.Since then I understood and agreed to the hype I was reading about higher volt vaping. It makes for a warmer much more taste and an even bigger clouding vapor that is much more satisfying to me.

    Some people claim of burnt taste with 510's but I only get that when its time to add more juice for the most part HV vaping increases the flavor for me no matter what atty I'm using as long as I keep it well juiced.

    The only negatives about it for me are higher juice consumption and atomizer life. I' have yet to blow an atty with lower voltage but PV's claimed as either 5 or 6 in my experience blow attys much more. I even got 2 HV 901's and it lasted just over a week with my Prodigy V2(I dropped the other which bent it so I threw it out) The truth is attys are like light bulbs or amp tubes some blow quick while others last a much longer time.

    It would be great if someone would come up with a longer lasting 510,901,801 atomizer. One guy supposedly has but its propriety for his device only and is not able to be taken out.
  12. Wolf

    Wolf Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 10, 2009
    Kingston, WA, U.S.A.
    With ya there. I use 801 attys. I like the amount of juice they hold. I probably would have tried the 6v vape, but the batteries I bought don't seem to fit. Don't ask, I don't have them handy. If they truly won't work, I'll try selling them on the classified thread.
  13. TommyGunBC

    TommyGunBC Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Jan 28, 2009
    Vancouver B.c.
    Why have just one , I love my SB but it needed a greek friend so I bought a GGT to keep the SB and the other pv's company :D
  14. Wolf

    Wolf Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 10, 2009
    Kingston, WA, U.S.A.
    Thinking of adding a BB to my collection. I think the purple. Maybe the black for hubby.
  15. AnglVapin

    AnglVapin Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 16, 2009
    Cajunland - Louisiana
    It certainly worked for me! Outstanding post! Thank you! ;)
  16. jlmanno

    jlmanno Super Member ECF Veteran

    Nov 15, 2009
    Pittsburgh, PA
    J M excellent post. you break it down to the simplest of terms. nicely done, happy vaping!
  17. acezzz

    acezzz Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Sep 19, 2009
    Has anyone ever had or seen this happen with a SB? This scares the hell out of me. I guess this is why the SB has the warning about stacking batteries.
  18. peace pipe

    peace pipe Full Member

    Jan 25, 2010
    I'm new to this environment and have alot to learn, but I have questions.
    That last pic of the battery is that a cr2?
    I feel its up to the consumer to make get all the information needed to operate these devices and I feel its the consumers "responsibility" to make the judgment call on using the proper batteries . If a manufacture states not to use un-protected batteries then its up to the consumer to decide if they want to be "responsible " for the safety of themselves and not to mention other around them.
  19. cddz

    cddz Supplier's Manufacturer - Offline ECF Veteran

    May 14, 2009
    Newark, Ohio
    It has happend(LiFePo4), the units SB/BB are vented under the switch. Use good sense if you are stacking cells(not recommended) test each cell after charging to ensure the cells are balanced(voltage). Keep them in sets. Keep your atty connection clean, and be alert. There is a great source of battery information stickied above this thread, be sure to take 10 mins and read it. You will feel smarter :p
  20. Vaughanie

    Vaughanie Super Member ECF Veteran

    Apr 26, 2009
    You wouldn't want this to happen on an enclosed metal cylindrical p.v with no vents, because they strike as a potential pipe bombs with unprotected CR2 batteries in series.

    Furthermore, if the metal is thick, as it is on some of these mods, would you even notice the batteries were heating up before it was too late?

    I'd personally take the rocket (with vents) over the pipe bomb, but hey, it's a lifestyle choice :) .

    At least S.B are being responsible not encouraging and not selling CR2 batteries with their device. However, people evidently do take risks.
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