SE, NJoy vs FDA -- Discussion

[The Wiz]

Thanks for the link Bill! I'll continue to risk my health with e-cigs as opposed to going back to smoking.....even though the powers that be think I shouldn't. After almost two years of vaping I think I know more about the state of my health than they do!

Nice piece of news!
Wiz!

 

[Our House]

Groups like Campaign for tobacco-Free Kids said the decision will lead an unsafe level of nicotine in products. The group's president, Matthew Myers, said the ruling will have harmful implications for public health.

"While the court found that the FDA could regulate electronic cigarettes as tobacco products, it will take the FDA time to assert jurisdiction over these products and issue regulations governing them, leaving these products unregulated in the meantime," he said in a statement. "This ruling invites the creation of a wild west of products containing highly addictive nicotine, an alarming prospect for public health."

We've had a wild west for the last 6-7 years and there hasn't been a shootout yet. Public health has NOT been suffering. What evidence -- other than his own unfounded assertions -- does this man have that things will be different over the next 2 years?

 

[Lazerrred]

Thank you Julie, Elaine, Bill, Jerry, and everyone involved. This is great news to win this one battle of the war. On another note, does anybody know or have any insight on any recovery of seized shipments by the FDA? (I apologize if this is not the right place to ask this).

I largely agree with Julie's assessment of the situation.

If FDA continues seizing or blocking e-cigarette imports (or interstate shipments) of any company's products, that company could take legal action against the FDA to enjoin (I think that's the right term) the agency from seizing or blocking their shipments (and probably demand a return of seized products). <snip>

 

[JustJulie]

Nothing new on the docket. In case anyone is wondering, yes, we still need to check the docket to see whether the FDA intends to try to appeal this decision.

Hope everyone is staying warm.

 

[jj2]

Nothing new on the docket. In case anyone is wondering, yes, we still need to check the docket to see whether the FDA intends to try to appeal this decision.

Hope everyone is staying warm.

Thank you and the same to you.

 

[JustJulie]

Thank you and the same to you.

You're welcome, JJ. And I'm trying to stay warm, but it's no easy task. But seeing as you live in the midwest, too, I expect you know exactly what I'm talking about.

By the way, completely forgot to mention that Kevin at VapersPlace did another special edition last night, this one talking about the Court of Appeals' decision: Special Edition DC Court of Appeals decision against FDA 12/12/2010 - kevbow | Internet Radio | Blog Talk Radio.

 

[jj2]

I got out a little bit today but plan on staying in tonight!!!
The bad thing, I heard it was suppose to be colder tomorrow and more snow on the way.
I want Spring!!!

 

[JerryRM]

Thank you, Julie. No snow here yet, but it will be coming soon enough. Did I mention that I hate snow ??

 

[JustJulie]

Thank you, Julie. No snow here yet, but it will be coming soon enough. Did I mention that I hate snow ??

You're right about that . . . the snow will be coming soon enough, Jerry. You can't avoid snow in Rhode Island.

 

[CJsKee]

Hey, Julie...I listened to the show last night and you ladies and Kevin did a great job!!! Everyone should give a listen. Thanks for all you do!

 

[Vocalek]

My daughter-in-law in southern Virginia is doing a snow dance. She is upset that they closed schools all around Bedford County, but no snow there.

 

[JerryRM]

My daughter-in-law in southern Virginia is doing a snow dance. She is upset that they closed schools all around Bedford County, but no snow there.

Elaine, we don't have any snow here yet, but when we do, I will be happy to send it you.

 

[Vocalek]

Elaine, we don't have any snow here yet, but when we do, I will be happy to send it you.

No, no, no. Not to me! Send it to Bedford County VA, not Fairfax County. Thanks.

 

[The Wiz]

Hey, Julie...I listened to the show last night and you ladies and Kevin did a great job!!! Everyone should give a listen. Thanks for all you do!

Julie.......Sorry I missed the show(I think it's in your blood now...LOL)!

Once again thanks for the daily updates!
Wiz!

 

[DC2]

What is this "snow" you all speak of?

 

[Vocalek]

What is this "snow" you all speak of?

Leave it to somone who lives in Mexico to ask that question.

 

[Exylos]

Elaine i have been watching and reading this forum for a while and never realized you are in VA, I am from Accomac I know its eastern shore, But living in Germany I am a bit home sick, So any news you want to pass along please feel free.

 

[Vocalek]

Elaine i have been watching and reading this forum for a while and never realized you are in VA, I am from Accomac I know its eastern shore, But living in Germany I am a bit home sick, So any news you want to pass along please feel free.

Be glad too. We used to spend a week on Chincotique Island every summer.

 

[Exylos]

I grew up doing pony pinning, I am actually from the town of accomac, just an hour away.

 

[JustJulie]

Nothing to report on the docket . . . actually, nothing to report at all . . . except winter hasn't officially started, and I'm already sick of the cold.

And, no, I do not want to hear from all of you people who are enjoying moderate to warm temperatures right now. Not at all nice to rub salt into the wound.