Seeing More Newbies going sub-ohm... Scary stuff.

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Then I'm very blissful. But to each their own. I don't care what other people do. I'm just a wimp.

It's too bad people pushing regulated mods have made you fear sub ohming. Sub ohm vaping is safer than things you do everyday, like driving a car, taking a shower or eating a steak.
 

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I studied alot before i bought my mech, first build i did was sub ohm micro though. .7ohma nd that is where I have pretty much stayed, besides my .5 dual coil builds. Dont see a need to go lower.

my friend use to run a .3 coil on a efest 18350 and that same RDA with no name 18650 batteries. Freaking scary that an experienced vapor would set up a coil like that for someone new to mechs. His battery actually vented and he had to throw his mod in a cooler. I told him multiple tiems not to run it but dumb ... at that vape shop set it up for him and he trusts that guy more. He is now using sony 30amp batteries and a little safer, still staying around .3 normal wraped coils.
 

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Was it "adolescent" when people started using LR cartos? It's the same concept.

The jealousy of the sub ohm vapor is puzzling to me.

I can't speak for anyone else but I'm not jealous at all. And no AVD person has scared me. I guess I'm just content with what I have and don't have the time to rebuild and also am not much of a DIY. People get defensive about sub ohming which I don't get? Why not just do what you prefer and let others do the same?
 

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sorta off topic but the theory is the same ... I reload and shoot revolvers, and when I was at the range a newbie shooter next to me brought out his revolver and started bragging how his would do this that and the other ( he had a SW 38 ) while all along he was belittleing mine ( SW 44mag). He then proceeded to load his up and wrap his hand around the gun with his left hand firmly holding the cylinder. Luckily I caught him before he could pull the trigger. He looked at me with disgust and almost became indignant when I told him he shouldnt hold his gun in that manner. So I grabbed one of his unused targets asked to see his gun... I placed the target along side of the cylinder pulled the trigger and promptly blew a 3" long hole in the target from the tiny little gap between the cylinder and barrel.... then I told him that would have been your hand if I didnt stop you.... he said thank you and then spent the next 90 minutes learning gun safety....
 

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I can't speak for anyone else but I'm not jealous at all. And no AVD person has scared me. I guess I'm just content with what I have and don't have the time to rebuild and also am not much of a DIY. People get defensive about sub ohming which I don't get? Why not just do what you prefer and let others do the same?

I was commenting on you calling yourself a "wimp." Somebody got it into your head that sub ohming is inherently dangerous. People get defensive about the practice when other posters call them "adolescents."
 

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sub ohming is not the norm in vaping, and for us here at ecf in particular, I think we do have to be carefull in the new members forum, to avoid giving the misperception to new vapers that sub ohming is the norm or perfectly safe for the average person.

As the number of new vapers double each year, the number of incidents are going to double.

There's a financial incentive to go subohm and mech and even drip, so its understandable that many new vapers will take an interest in it, but they need to make that choice themselves not be encouraged to start off that way without any knowledge or experience.
 

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Was it "adolescent" when people started using LR cartos? It's the same concept.

The jealousy of the sub ohm vapor is puzzling to me.

Not really. Kodiak was saying the whole cloud chasing thing seems to him like an adolescent thing. People don't use a low res atty to chase clouds.
 

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sub ohming is not the norm in vaping, and for us here at ecf in particular, I think we do have to be carefull in the new members forum, to avoid giving the misperception to new vapers that sub ohming is the norm or perfectly safe for the average person.

As the number of new vapers double each year, the number of incidents are going to double.

There's a financial incentive to go subohm and mech and even drip, so its understandable that many new vapers will take an interest in it, but they need to make that choice themselves not be encouraged to start off that way without any knowledge or experience.
There's no evidence of this. The evidence suggests ego batteries are far more dangerous than sub ohm set ups. Maybe we should warn people about egos and pass thru's.
 

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sorta off topic but the theory is the same ... I reload and shoot revolvers, and when I was at the range a newbie shooter next to me brought out his revolver and started bragging how his would do this that and the other ( he had a SW 38 ) while all along he was belittleing mine ( SW 44mag). He then proceeded to load his up and wrap his hand around the gun with his left hand firmly holding the cylinder. Luckily I caught him before he could pull the trigger. He looked at me with disgust and almost became indignant when I told him he shouldnt hold his gun in that manner. So I grabbed one of his unused targets asked to see his gun... I placed the target along side of the cylinder pulled the trigger and promptly blew a 3" long hole in the target from the tiny little gap between the cylinder and barrel.... then I told him that would have been your hand if I didnt stop you.... he said thank you and then spent the next 90 minutes learning gun safety....

I think that's a good analogy; that's exactly what the topic is about; 'newbies' who don't know the safety aspects and just start off doing stuff they shouldn't be doing without knowledge, experience or at least caution.
 

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Not really. Kodiak was saying the whole cloud chasing thing seems to him like an adolescent thing. People don't use a low res atty to chase clouds.

Then he doesn't understand sub ohming. It seems most people don't. Even if people are chasing clouds, it's a hobby. How is that adolescent?
 

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There's no evidence of this. The evidence suggests ego batteries are far more dangerous than sub ohm set ups. Maybe we should warn people about egos and pass thru's.

Had to read a few times before I guessed you read something into what I said that I never said.
 

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KODIAK™;12498611 said:
It's all about the clouds. Don't understand it myself. An adolescent thing I guess.

I can't speak for anyone else but I'm not jealous at all. And no AVD person has scared me. I guess I'm just content with what I have and don't have the time to rebuild and also am not much of a DIY. People get defensive about sub ohming which I don't get? Why not just do what you prefer and let others do the same?

I didn't know it was odd for people to defend themselves after being put down.
 

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Where are these sub ohming incidents that are going to double? The vast, vast majority of "incidents" are related to egos and pass thru's, not sub ohming.

Here is what I said:
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sub ohming is not the norm in vaping, and for us here at ecf in particular, I think we do have to be carefull in the new members forum, to avoid giving the misperception to new vapers that sub ohming is the norm or perfectly safe for the average person.

As the number of new vapers double each year, the number of incidents are going to double.

There's a financial incentive to go subohm and mech and even drip, so its understandable that many new vapers will take an interest in it, but they need to make that choice themselves not be encouraged to start off that way without any knowledge or experience.

I never claimed anything about sub ohming incidents.

The statement you are referring to is about incidents involving new vapers and not specifically about subohming.
 
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