Selecting the correct juice density.
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If I were locked in an empty room for 24 hours with 2ml of 10mg liquid and a new e-cig atomizer...
I've got 20mg of nicotine available. No matter what I do, I can only possibly consume 20mg of nicotine in that 24 hours. Period.
I've got 20mg of nicotine available. No matter what I do, I can only possibly consume 20mg of nicotine in that 24 hours. Period.
That's how I see it Jaaxx. 20mg maximum. Then Dr Laugesen says we exhale 2% and there's primer puffs to consider and the nicotine has a different pH from tobacco so will be absorbed differently.
You would have to base the puff count on the analog and use that estimate for the e-cig, not the puff count on the e-cig and compare that to the analog.
Remember, we're talking about replacing the analogs with equivalent juice amounts.
No, I've vaped enough nicotine to have a nose bleed (not quite, I'm exaggerating here) but I've yet to have the light-headedness that the first cigarette after a long time used to give me. Having the first cigarette of the day outside in the cold used to be fantastic - feeling the effect course through my veins - I cannot seem to emulate this sensation with e-cigs no matter how high the strength. I now thinking that it wasn't the nicotine after all but some other additive (or carbon monoxide or lack of oxygen or something). Shame, I miss that.
This is getting redundant. As I've already answered before, a 1.0mg analog * 10 = 10 mg density juice.
12 puffs ~ 1 cig ~ .1 ml juice
@ 1.0 mg analog, juice would be 10 mg
Disregarding the absorption factor, 12 puffs on the e-cig at 10 mg density would be approximately equivalent to the 12 puffs on an analog of 1.0 mg.
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Your maths doesn't add up.
In real life people do not puff the same with vapour as they do with smoke.
12 puffs of 10mg eliquid equals 2mg of nicotine by your calculations, not 1mg.
As I said before, puff counts are not a good measure.
Understood?
Your maths doesn't add up.
In real life people do not puff the same with vapour as they do with smoke.
12 puffs of 10mg eliquid equals 2mg of nicotine by your calculations, not 1mg.
As I said before, puff counts are not a good measure.
Understood?
I see the problem, you just can't follow the math.
12 puffs of 10 mg juice is not 2mg of nicotine by my calculations. It is exactly 1 mg of nicotine, as 12 puffs is the equivalent of .1ml.
.1 * 10 != 2 mg, it is 1mg.
I'm saying your multiplication of .1*10 is incorrect. As for the counts, do you what statistical bias is? Unless every single one of them were using the exact same e-cig with the exact same state of battery and atomizer, the estimates are BIASED. The poll should have been broken down to include equipment used to generate the results.
From there, you can estimate population means from the stratified random sampling.
I think vaping the high density stuff can be extremely dangerous. You saw that thread on the FDA looking into it? What kind of questions do you suppose they'll ask? Exactly the same one I'm asking in regards to the density.
You know, if people aren't concerned with potential overdosing, that's their decision and they are more than welcome to vape with as high a density as they wish. After grunting out the rough numbers, I'm certain the FDA is going to step in regulate the density of juice at some point and you won't have an valid argument to defend the position on the higher density liquids.
I can only speak for myself, but I'm not vaping to increase my nicotine intake over what I'm getting now through analogs. I'm vaping to substitute the analogs for the healthier option.
Al you can't work out equivalence for e-cig puff vs analogue puff basis until you know the nicotine absorption rate for e-cig .(At an educated guess but never the less still a guess i would say it's around 60%).
It's around 10% for analogues i believe .The figure of 1mg for nicotine strength here is absorbed nicotine and not available nicotine.(I read that the average content of cigarette nicotine is much higher at 10-20mg per cig) .
From what my own inbuilt nicotine censor (my brain)
and much
trial and error ,i got a strength of about 14mg/ml to be equal to my tobacco roll ups puff for puff . This isn't far off what some ecig manufacturer's where recommending with e-liquid to tobacco equivalence's tables that I read.
It's around 10% for analogues i believe .The figure of 1mg for nicotine strength here is absorbed nicotine and not available nicotine.(I read that the average content of cigarette nicotine is much higher at 10-20mg per cig) .
From what my own inbuilt nicotine censor (my brain)
and muchtrial and error ,i got a strength of about 14mg/ml to be equal to my tobacco roll ups puff for puff . This isn't far off what some ecig manufacturer's where recommending with e-liquid to tobacco equivalence's tables that I read.
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