Selfish Question from a sick person, please help

[BrokenLung]

Hello everyone, I know people must get sick of this question, but I need some quick advice on which e-cig to buy. I bolded the important points and if there is any other information that is needed to help guide me please let me know.

Background information: After once again attaining an upper respiratory infection I have decided I must quit smoking. I have realized that chewing gum is not going to work, at least not by itself, for me. I have spent a few hours looking around and have come to no good conclusion on what I need. Other than possibly a mid-size, I have no clue on what brand to choose for potency, taste, battery strength, and especially long term value. I feel like I could spend weeks if not months researching vaporizing, which I plan to do in the long run. Right now I am sick and need to get something ordered and on its way to me so I can get healthy. : /Background Information

So let me try to summarize what i hope will help you, in helping guide me, to the appropriate vapo

1. I smoke around a pack a day of light cigarettes (marlboro preferred taste)

2. I do not care what size the E-cig is, as long as it is portable enough to take to school/work and has a decent battery life (so an APV does not sound appropriate?)

3. I am not interested in flavored smokes of any kind, in fact flavorless would be fine.

4. I would like to spend less than $100, although I could be flexible if I need to be, especially if spending more at the start works out to be cheaper in the long haul.
(I am hoping you all's experience can save me failing at attempting to vaporizing because I do not have the money to try out multiple kinds)

5. I have tried 2 disposable E-cigs, both of which were so weak they where worthless.

I am not sure what the first one was, but the last one I tried was a "Finiti" disposable. It was very weak even using the mouth, nose, and lungs technique. I also wouldn't mind a thicker vapor but that is not a big deal to me, certainly towards bottom of list.


So based on that information, if anyone has any advice for me I would GREATLY appreciate it. Between being sick and having finals coming up I feel I don't have time to gain the knowledge necessary to get a decent vaporization experience and your advice will be GREATLY APPRECIATED !!!!

 

[Ryand27]

OK so here is my opinion. I would buy from two separate site actually. If u want a good vaporizer that works buy the Vision Spinner from GotVapes.. Also at got vapes pick up a couple of clearomizers. I have least leek and best hits from the Kanger T2 with replaceable atomizer heads. I personally keep my spinner on 4.0 volts and use the 1.8-2.0 ohm attys. This will cost around 60 bucks. Then buy your juice from Johnson creek. Strongest and best taste in the begging. Buy the Red Oak original in the 30ml bottle with 1.8mg. This setup will rock your world. Remember to give it a charger for ur spinner at GotVapes.. good luck bro.

 

[Vapira]

Hello BrokenLung,

There are so many things to choose from that it can be overwhelming. What I recommend is to check out the Katana kits at Vapedojo.
They're only 12.99! it's a simple 650 mah ego battery, a stardust/ce4 tank and an usb charger. easy breezy. This little kit vapes like crazy! Simple.
The batteries should last 3-4 hours depending on how much you're vaping. I say get 2

Vapira

 

[qigger]

I second the nod to Johnson Creek as a good introductory juice. It tasted like ... the first week and then came alive almost overnight for me this weekend. I also encourage checking out some of the highly recommended vendors on this site, just don't blow your wad and put in like 6 orders in the span of a week or so like I did

 

[Ansah]

Hi and welcome. The problem with your question is that everyone will give you their opinion, and their experience with a given solution may be different from yours.

My recent starter kit was an Ego C. You could try the ego mini or something and have two swappable batteries if both stealth and long battery life are important to you. I'm recommending this because that's what I did and I like it fine. It's working really well for me even though I'm already on an APV path...

I never smoked lights, only strong non filters, so I don't know what the optimal e-juice mg strength for you might be. I got 30 and 36mg, which is plenty of strength for me. Many get 18mg or 24mg, which seems to be a mainstream sweet spot. Like you, I'm not interested in fruity flavors and all of that, and the Turkish Blend I purchased from myfreedomsmokes is great. Other than the fact that I'm going to be mixing my own juice shortly ( more cost efficient), I could simply order this blend for the rest of my life and be fine.

Good luck!

 

[Nuuze]

I agree with Ryand.

A good start is an Ego from a place like gotvapes.com. I just helped my sister put together a kit for my nephew for Christmas for under $100.

-2x Ego twist
-Charger
-5 pack of cartomizer
-Vivi Nova mini
-extra Vivi Nova head
-Ego tank/ring adapter
-juice samples

 

[Dovahkiin]

To me there are two options. The simplest one is the volts by Smokeless Image. All of their equipment fits each other. There is a money back guarantee. I suggest getting a starter kit and a sample kit of flavors.
The link is below
Smokeless Image | Only The Best Electronic Cigarette | Smokeless Image Electronic Cigarettes - The Future is in your hands

The other option is the Ego they have starter kit as well. They also have alot of options. Another member here will help with the Ego.

 

[rotku]

Firstly, I am sorry to hear about the respiratory infection. My brother had that and stopped cold turkey 11 years ago. That is some serious stuff. Your budget is reasonable enough to obtain everything you asked for. There are many quality vendors that sell eGo style starter kits that include 2 batteries, charger, cartomizers (clearomizers, atty's, tanks, etc), and they even throw in Marlboro flavored e-liquid. These starter kits are simple but much more advanced than some of the e-cig ripoffs you get by just Googling "e-cigarette". At the top of the forum page is a tab marked "Forum Suppliers", any of them are good to start with. My suggestion (I bet you get a ton of suggestions) would be to check the following links...
Electronic Cigarette / eGO Tank Starter Set - Quality ecigs from Aqua Vapor Cig Atlanta, Ga
https://www.cignot.com/product_p/kit-egt-all.htm
Joyetech w/ Vision eGo Clearomizer Starter Kit

Just some thoughts. I think all the vendors do a nice job with starter kits. Good Luck. Hope you get better.

 

[Johnnie Price]

If you're looking for small/unobtrusive, go here.

Get the 1100 mah Crystal Clear kit. On that same site, grab 2 of the iGo cartomizers. And then grab some juice.

 

[Johnnie Price]

To me there are two options. The simplest one is the volts by Smokeless Image. All of their equipment fits each other. There is a money back guarantee. I suggest getting a starter kit and a sample kit of flavors.
The link is below
Smokeless Image | Only The Best Electronic Cigarette | Smokeless Image Electronic Cigarettes - The Future is in your hands

The other option is the Ego they have starter kit as well. They also have alot of options. Another member here will help with the Ego.

If you're going to go with the Volt, it's better in my opinion to just grab 2 650 mah X2's and a pack of cartomizers,or a sample pack. Costs just a few bucks more than a kit and gives plenty of battery life.

A pack a day smoker is just going to get frustrated with the stick batteries. I know I am.

 

[BrokenLung]

Thanks for all the suggestions.

So a cartomizer holds the liquid right? This is what some websites call "Cartos" and it seems like the clearomizer seems popular now because it holds a lot of liquid and you can see what you are doing. I was watching a video of carto's being refilled and it seemed rather in depth. If something like a clearomizer is easier to refill I would totally be into that.

I was hoping someone could say, here buy this kit, it has all of what you need in it. I understand that is not how simple it is going to be though.

I think I could handle using an eGO (which is a size right? because I thought it was a brand a few hours ago lol).

Of course having a cigarette sized device would be nice, but not if I am going to be dissapointed with it. If an eGO is around the size of a large cigar (which is what it looks like in the pictures) I could make that work.

I just don't want something really big like an APV where I am standing somewhere sucking on a device the size of a 1 litre bottle of cola. Don't want to draw attention in public really.

But again, thanks for all the suggestions, I am looking them over now. A kit would be wonderful, that way I didn't have to scrutinize each piece I am buying because I am a total dealnews.com addict type of person who will want to know that I am buying the right thing on each individual piece.

Thanks!

 

[Shipmister]

Ego-t 18650 and some cartomizers if you want something portable. It's regulated so the battery will last you a loooooong time. The battery is a tad fat but not to big to fit in my pockets.



Your friendly nor cal dude

 

[Dauyd]

From what you say, it sounds to me like you are not overly concerned about size or price (within reason), but want a good quality pv with no hassles.

I read that as wanting to skip over the entry level stuff and get into better gear right away (rather than going cheap now and upgrading later. Everything listed above falls into the "entry level" category.

With that in mind, I'd look at a bolt or an e-power 18650. Both are fixed voltage mods with enough battery to last all day. They can be found for under $50.

Now, I know you mentioned that APV's might be out, but my impression of your post is that it is because you think the battery life will be too short with them. That really isn't the case- VV doesn't use more battery unless you crank it up, and even then an 18650 will have plenty of mah.

Along those lines, a Lavatube crome, Vmax, or something along those lines is a better choice. They can be found for well under the $100 mark, and variable voltage will give you a better vape.

Then there is the infamous ProVari. It is significantly over your $100 mark- but there just isn't a better PV for the money.

With any of the above, I'd recommend a Vision Vivi Nova for an atomizer. They are pretty much idiot proof, yet good enough for vets.

Juice is so subjective there is no point making recommendations.

 

[Johnnie Price]

Thanks for all the suggestions.

So a cartomizer holds the liquid right? This is what some websites call "Cartos" and it seems like the clearomizer seems popular now because it holds a lot of liquid and you can see what you are doing. I was watching a video of carto's being refilled and it seemed rather in depth. If something like a clearomizer is easier to refill I would totally be into that.

I was hoping someone could say, here buy this kit, it has all of what you need in it. I understand that is not how simple it is going to be though.

I think I could handle using an eGO (which is a size right? because I thought it was a brand a few hours ago lol).

Of course having a cigarette sized device would be nice, but not if I am going to be dissapointed with it. If an eGO is around the size of a large cigar (which is what it looks like in the pictures) I could make that work.

I just don't want something really big like an APV where I am standing somewhere sucking on a device the size of a 1 litre bottle of cola. Don't want to draw attention in public really.

But again, thanks for all the suggestions, I am looking them over now. A kit would be wonderful, that way I didn't have to scrutinize each piece I am buying because I am a total dealnews.com addict type of person who will want to know that I am buying the right thing on each individual piece.

Thanks!

The one I linked to is a kit, it just requires the juice.

Outside of the cig-alike batteries, I haven't seen any kits that come with pre-filled carts or juice. Though I'm sure some exist somewhere.

Oh, and good luck!

 

[BrokenLung]

From what you say, it sounds to me like you are not overly concerned about size or price (within reason), but want a good quality pv with no hassles.

I read that as wanting to skip over the entry level stuff and get into better gear right away (rather than going cheap now and upgrading later. Everything listed above falls into the "entry level" category.

With that in mind, I'd look at a bolt or an e-power 18650. Both are fixed voltage mods with enough battery to last all day. They can be found for under $50.

Now, I know you mentioned that APV's might be out, but my impression of your post is that it is because you think the battery life will be too short with them. That really isn't the case- VV doesn't use more battery unless you crank it up, and even then an 18650 will have plenty of mah.

Along those lines, a Lavatube crome, Vmax, or something along those lines is a better choice. They can be found for well under the $100 mark, and variable voltage will give you a better vape.

Then there is the infamous ProVari. It is significantly over your $100 mark- but there just isn't a better PV for the money.

With any of the above, I'd recommend a Vision Vivi Nova for an atomizer. They are pretty much idiot proof, yet good enough for vets.

Juice is so subjective there is no point making recommendations.

You nailed it. I want to skip over the wasting of money and go ahead and get something good. However id like to order something tonight if possible and go ahead and get it on its way.

eGO is looking pretty nice

Electronic Cigarette / eGO Tank Starter Set - Quality ecigs from Aqua Vapor Cig Atlanta, Ga <-- that one looked okay even.

I am going to check out the bolt and e-power 18650 right now. If you had to choose one of the two which would you go with?

I glanced at the Vmax and it just seems to big to throw in my backpack or in the pocket and take places with me.

 

[BrokenLung]

Also, if anything I say sounds odd. Keep in mind, I don't really understand how a cartomizer, clearonmizer, tank, or atomizer works or many other things.

I also just figured out 18650 is a battery type, which means anything that uses it will be fairly large, maybe bigger than a cigar? Guess i kind of thought cigar size was kind of on the upper end of size range. I would be okay with 2 smaller batteries as long as I could get 8 to 12 hours of use out of them. I usually have a plug and or a USB plug somewhere near by. But if I am making a mistake by not going with the 18650 just because it may "seem" big to a newbie then please let me know.

I just saw a video where a guy was putting a cartomizer inside a clearomizer.

So ease of use would be great, i.e. isn't too hard to figure out when I get it.

 

[JC Okie]

Hello BrokenLung,

There are so many things to choose from that it can be overwhelming. What I recommend is to check out the Katana kits at Vapedojo.
They're only 12.99! it's a simple 650 mah ego battery, a stardust/ce4 tank and an usb charger. easy breezy. This little kit vapes like crazy! Simple.
The batteries should last 3-4 hours depending on how much you're vaping. I say get 2

Vapira

I just checked out this Katana Kit at VapeDojo and that is an amazing price. You could buy two of those for $12.99 each (what a price!!!) and be set for a long time. The eGo battery it comes with is great...and you'd get two and two chargers, and two ce4 clearomizers. Can't beat the price and you'd have everything you needed except the juice. You'd need two if you're going to be serious about this, because you don't want to be without a battery while it's charging. That price is awesome. I have a bottom-feeder mod now, but I used the eGo for over 9 months and they are awesome. That kit is a perfect way to break into the whole world of vaping. Vape Dojo - Welcome

 

[Signman]

If you are looking for something that looks like a cig. then try vapor4life. They have complete kits that come with carts that are prefilled with the flavor of your choice.

 

[DizGrizz]

Yes, the cartomizer (or clearomizer, or tank, or cartridge...depending on device) holds the juice. Cartomizers (cartos) will hold somewhere between 1.0ml (standard 35mm carto) and 1.8ml (XL and XXL). Some of the eGo-specific cartos can hold more.

The eGo is a name that JoyeTech gave to their cigar-sized system...since then, it has become a discriptive term for that style of system (like Coke). If you go eGo size, go for one with the 510/eGo connection rather than the 808-D1 connection of those sold by SI (good company...just not as main-stream of a connector).

I can't say "most" (my opinion is most) but I would say that many of those who start out with cig-sized units upgrade after not very long. The main detractors to them is performance and battery life. The amount of flavor, vapor, and throat hit from an eGo class setup is almost always far superior to a cig-size. The shorter eGo class batteries (400-450 mAh) can easily be palmed for "stealth" vaping so, if you go eGo you can get one of those for more public situations and use larger ones for the added battery life when you don't care who's watching. But really, an eGo is not that big (same diameter as a AA battery) and various lengths depending on mAh. Please note that all of the JoyeTech eGo (and clones) batteries have the same connectors so an eGo-T (tank system) batt or and eGo-C (changeable) batt will work with a 510 cartomizer, ViVi Noval clearomizer, etc. BTW, the eGo-T systems have muted flavor, you're better of with a carto, carto tank, or clearomizer like the ViVi Nova than the attomizer+tank system that comes with an eGo-T kit...but, like I said, the batts are the same.

The eGo Twist and the Vision Spinner are variable voltage so they give you a big advantage for just a little added length. The Twist performs a little better than the Spinner because the Spinner seems to not make it above 4.5V under load and the Twist pulls of the full 4.8 Volt max setting. I have yet to find a real JoyeTech eGo C twist starter kit but you can put one together for around $70 or less and that's going with the 1000 mAh. I have seen some Vision Spinner starter kits.

 

[Robino1]

Yes, the cartomizer (or clearomizer, or tank, or cartridge...depending on device) holds the juice. Cartomizers (cartos) will hold somewhere between 1.0ml (standard 35mm carto) and 1.8ml (XL and XXL). Some of the eGo-specific cartos can hold more.

The eGo is a name that JoyeTech gave to their cigar-sized system...since then, it has become a discriptive term for that style of system (like Coke). If you go eGo size, go for one with the 510/eGo connection rather than the 808-D1 connection of those sold by SI (good company...just not as main-stream of a connector).

I can't say "most" (my opinion is most) but I would say that many of those who start out with cig-sized units upgrade after not very long. The main detractors to them is performance and battery life. The amount of flavor, vapor, and throat hit from an eGo class setup is almost always far superior to a cig-size. The shorter eGo class batteries (400-450 mAh) can easily be palmed for "stealth" vaping so, if you go eGo you can get one of those for more public situations and use larger ones for the added battery life when you don't care who's watching. But really, an eGo is not that big (same diameter as a AA battery) and various lengths depending on mAh. Please note that all of the JoyeTech eGo (and clones) batteries have the same connectors so an eGo-T (tank system) batt or and eGo-C (changeable) batt will work with a 510 cartomizer, ViVi Noval clearomizer, etc. BTW, the eGo-T systems have muted flavor, you're better of with a carto, carto tank, or clearomizer like the ViVi Nova than the attomizer+tank system that comes with an eGo-T kit...but, like I said, the batts are the same.

The eGo Twist and the Vision Spinner are variable voltage so they give you a big advantage for just a little added length. The Twist performs a little better than the Spinner because the Spinner seems to not make it above 4.5V under load and the Twist pulls of the full 4.8 Volt max setting. I have yet to find a real JoyeTech eGo C twist starter kit but you can put one together for around $70 or less and that's going with the 1000 mAh. I have seen some Vision Spinner starter kits.

^^^This x 1,000,000,000^^^!!

The eGo twist is a great device. Make sure you get the genuine in the Twists and in the Novas. The nova has to be labeled Vision Vivi Nova. People are having a lot of problems and it's usually because they are not the real deal. If the product is a lot cheaper, it's because it usually is a knock-off. I just put together a kit for my daughter for Christmas. 2 eGo 1000 Twists, 2 Vision Vivi Novas, USB charger, wall adapter, sleeve/collar to make the setup more streamlined and a bunch of juices that I plan to start the steep process before sending them out to her. By christmas they will all be steeped and ready for her to vape. I probably spent about $150 on the whole thing.

Good luck with whatever you choose.