A lot of flavorings are carried in alcohol. That's why people aerate juice with the caps off for a day or two.
Should a recovering alcoholic worry?
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A lot of flavorings are carried in alcohol. That's why people aerate juice with the caps off for a day or two.
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I definitely learned a lot in this thread. Funny thing happened, the day after this thread I tried a flavor in a vape shop that totally reminded me of peppermint schnapps (which was my drink in a "water bottle" for work ) I have always avoided liquor flavored ejuices, and accidently tried this one without realizing what the flavor name indicated.. It was called menthol de cream or something like that... so heads up on anything with de cream in it lol. Didn't trigger anything in me luckily. I am glad that I seem to be past the point of allowing things to easily trigger cravings, but its stupid to flirt with unnecessary risks such as these.
I definitely learned a lot in this thread. Funny thing happened, the day after this thread I tried a flavor in a vape shop that totally reminded me of peppermint schnapps (which was my drink in a "water bottle" for work ) I have always avoided liquor flavored ejuices, and accidently tried this one without realizing what the flavor name indicated.. It was called menthol de cream or something like that... so heads up on anything with de cream in it lol. Didn't trigger anything in me luckily. I am glad that I seem to be past the point of allowing things to easily trigger cravings, but its stupid to flirt with unnecessary risks such as these.
Am also a 5 year person. Today, an hour ago, I put two tanks into vinegar. I will rinse and smell them in a couple of hours. Then, I will wash them under hot water. All-in-all, I use only tanks that can be completely broken down. I want a good vape, but I don't want to use dangerous liquids to help me clean nooks and crannies.
I am grateful to be able to vape today.
I am grateful to be able to vape today.
I'm no alcoholic expert but do know my PGA based juices had the sweet alcohol smell and taste which may increase someones appetite to partake a sip; maybe?
The only thing I've found to be careful about when using vinegar to clean tanks is that if glue is used to hold the pieces together the vinegar will soften the glue. But on the plus side vinegar is dirt cheap and can be used as fabric softener as well.
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It depends on where you are in your recovery. If you are at two years, but have not really worked any steps, then your recovery could be like hanging on for dear life. I know a lot of people who white knuckle their recovery and live in fear that they are near relapse at every turn because they have gone from being an alcoholic to being an alcoholic that doesn't drink.
However, if you have worked the steps, are in a fit spiritual condition and have undergone that psychic change that is spoken of, then it's okay to have a healthy respect for alcohol but you don't have to fear it.
I would never really suggest any recovering alcholoic from vaping rum and coke or Pina Colada flavored e-juices. However fearing that you may go out due to residual alcohol that remains in e-juice flavoring or avoiding mouth wash makes me wonder about their program.
I accidently used a cold medicine that contained alcohol early in sobriety and immediately confessed to my sponsor. I thought I had to white chip it again. He asked. Did you take the cold medicine to get drunk? To "enjoy the alcohol" in it? I replied honestly that I simply had a cold and used what was in the house and didn't give a thought.
He assured me that I had not broken my sobriety.
True Sobriety is a spiritual condition. I know of people in program who white chipped without taking a drink because they lost all assemblence of ture sobriety. They had turned into a dry drunk.
There is no better defense from the first drink than to help another alcoholic that still suffers. As long as you maintain your fit spiritual condition and continually work to be of ultimate service to God as you understand him and your fellow man, you won't need to worry about what's in your e-juice.
I am always aware of how powerful baffling and cunning my disease is. I am always leery when I start thinking that I've learned all that I need to know or that I'm cured. I respect what alcohol can do to me. However I also know that as long as I keep fit spiritual condition and continue work my steps every day and be of maximum service, then I don't have to fear alcohol.
It depends on where you are in your recovery. If you are at two years, but have not really worked any steps, then your recovery could be like hanging on for dear life. I know a lot of people who white knuckle their recovery and live in fear that they are near relapse at every turn because they have gone from being an alcoholic to being an alcoholic that doesn't drink.
However, if you have worked the steps, are in a fit spiritual condition and have undergone that psychic change that is spoken of, then it's okay to have a healthy respect for alcohol but you don't have to fear it.
I would never really suggest any recovering alcholoic from vaping rum and coke or Pina Colada flavored e-juices. However fearing that you may go out due to residual alcohol that remains in e-juice flavoring or avoiding mouth wash makes me wonder about their program.
I accidently used a cold medicine that contained alcohol early in sobriety and immediately confessed to my sponsor. I thought I had to white chip it again. He asked. Did you take the cold medicine to get drunk? To "enjoy the alcohol" in it? I replied honestly that I simply had a cold and used what was in the house and didn't give a thought.
He assured me that I had not broken my sobriety.
True Sobriety is a spiritual condition. I know of people in program who white chipped without taking a drink because they lost all assemblence of ture sobriety. They had turned into a dry drunk.
There is no better defense from the first drink than to help another alcoholic that still suffers. As long as you maintain your fit spiritual condition and continually work to be of ultimate service to God as you understand him and your fellow man, you won't need to worry about what's in your e-juice.
I am always aware of how powerful baffling and cunning my disease is. I am always leery when I start thinking that I've learned all that I need to know or that I'm cured. I respect what alcohol can do to me. However I also know that as long as I keep fit spiritual condition and continue work my steps every day and be of maximum service, then I don't have to fear alcohol.
My advice is to stick with reputable vendors who disclose the ingredients for each juice. You can also contact them to make sure alcohol isn't added. There are some flavorings that do have small amounts of alcohol but for me personally that hasn't been an issue. I just allow them to air out for several days.
Do you have a sponsor? I would recommend staying in touch with others in the program until you find a vendor/juices that work for you.
There is a thread for friends of Bill W but it's not used much. There might be some older posts on this topic.
Friends of Bill W.
Congrats on your sobriety!!
Do you have a sponsor? I would recommend staying in touch with others in the program until you find a vendor/juices that work for you.
There is a thread for friends of Bill W but it's not used much. There might be some older posts on this topic.
Friends of Bill W.
Congrats on your sobriety!!
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Hello!!! Just celebrated 3 yrs on 3/28 I.am just starting to get into DIY and I am concerned about alcohol stuff too. I want to know if anyone has ideas for cleaners and to increase throat hit without actual vodka? I am not willing to risk having it in the house...
Hello!!! Just celebrated 3 yrs on 3/28
I.am just starting to get into DIY and I am concerned about alcohol stuff too. I want to know if anyone has ideas for cleaners and to increase throat hit without actual vodka? I am not willing to risk having it in the house...
18 year friend of Bill W's. If any flavors make you uncomfortable then avoid them, staying sober is always priority 1. I don't have any issues with any juices that use, smell or taste like alcohol and there are lots out there but i have a bit more time. Leaving the cap off overnight as mentioned earlier will solve a lot.
Bump-in hopes of getting more ideas...
Hello!!! Just celebrated 3 yrs on 3/28
Walgreens/CVS/Rite Aid have 91% isopropyl for cleaning.
The other 9% is just water. Don't use rubbing alcohol. RA will leave a nasty (and possibly harmful) residue.
Higher PG has better TH
I get great TH with my Kayfun Light+ & R91 @ 70/30
If you are concerned speed or heat steep all your juices before you use them. When you steep E Juice it give it time for the alcohol to evaporate, this way you can speed the process up considerably.
To heat steep juice just follow these directions.
This is easy to do. get a bowl or other microwave safe container. Something you don't really need to put food in. The container needs to be deep enough to come up to the neck of the bottle. Set one of your largest bottles in the bowl and then fill it with dry rice just up to the neck of the bottle. Remove the bottle. Heat the dry rice in the microwave until it is about 200 f. DO NOT HEAT IT OVER 210 AT MOST. The plastic bottles are made of LDPE AND IT MELTS SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 230 AND 250 F. I use a probe thermometer to check it after I heat it. I have a 900watt microwave and it takes between 45 seconds to a minute to get the rice to temp. When the rice is hot remove the cap and drip tip from the bottle replace the screw cap it gives you a better way to hold onto it till it's down in the rice. Nestle it down into the rice up to the neck of the bottle. Remove the screw cap. Leave it until it is cooled to room temp. Takes around 2 to 4 hours. Recap the bottle and shake like crazy. remove the cap and squeeze the air out of the bottle re cap and shake again. It should be good to go, if not it might need a day or two more. I have only had one that wasn't good enough to vape the same day, but they will still gain a little more depth and nuance as they age a little more. I don't even cap my bottle for the first two weeks. if they last that long. if you have any questions let me know or PM me.
I am coming up on 26 years on the 23rd and I also am very careful. None of my juices contain alcohol. I also only use alcohol free mouthwash. I wouldn't use the alcohol flavors lve pina colada because I don't even want a sense memory. I know it isn't the same by why chance it. Congrats on your achivement.
Rubbing alcohol = isopropyl alcohol
Wasn't sure if you were recommending 91% isopropyl for cleaning, but that is the same as rubbing alcohol. It's not so much the residue that is toxic to ingest or inhale, but the alcohol itself.
I am no longer an active AA. I heartily reject the use of vodka to clean equipment. I also do not like the idea of isopropyl or rubbing alcohol. Vinegar, vinegar and baking soda, hydrogen peroxide, and denture tabs are all worthwhile and healthier alternatives. I have just started holding my equipment at the faucet for a minute or so, just plain hot running water does fine. As for tiny amounts of alcohol in vapes, your digestive system produces more alcohol than they do. I also am not interested in any drink-flavored vapes.
http://chemistry.about.com/od/chemicalcomposition/f/What-Are-The-Ingredients-In-Rubbing-Alcohol.htm
"Rubbing Alcohol in the US
In the United States, rubbing alcohol made using ethanol must conform to Formula 23-H, which specifies it consists of 100 parts by volume of ethyl alcohol, 8 parts by volume of acetone and 1.5 parts by volume of methyl isobutyl ketone (MSDS sheet). The remainder of the composition includes water and denaturants and may include colorants and perfume oils.
Rubbing alcohol made using isopropanol is regulated to contains at least 355 mg of sucrose octaacetate (MSDS sheet) and 1.40 mg of denatonium benzoate (MSDS sheet) per 100 ml volume. Isopropyl rubbing alcohol also contains water, stabilizer and may contain colorants."
I have nothing of value to add to this conversation but I just wanted to say that I am so proud of all you that have quit drinking. Really, you are all hero's in my book !
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