should we be stocking up just in case

[Donovan69]

I live in Canada where health Canada has already advised us not to use ecigs or pvs. The regulation is coming. I have been watching diy vids but find it all overwhelming I am so new to all this and have been getting most of my info from Grimm Green and Pbusardo vids on you tube. I am new to ecf and spend about 6 hours a day on here reading stuff. Talk about a learning curve. But I haven't had a cig since Jan. 31st 2013. and I was a 2pd guy!!

 

[Double777]

I'm stocking up since last month. Since I'm in the nanny state all I see is raising taxes, more taxed, sales tax up every year, banning plastic bags, closing oyster facilities and many more on the way. Myself, just making sure I'm covered before they put taxes on our habit IMHO.

 

[Yail Bloor]

Personally and in my experience, once a governing entity has set their sights on something relatively harmless that is a threat to said governing entity, be it through financial harm or fear of recognition of just what profane liars governing entities tend to be, there is no stopping them. Mostly because we as the people under said governing entity just seem to tolerate it... But that is neither here nor there....

I am stocking up, because at this point it's only a matter of time....

 

[tj99959]

What I worry most about is that history shows that when government is proven wrong, they double their efforts to prove themselves right instead of just admitting that they were wrong.

 

[JiGGLiN]

Was liquid nicotine base readily available the last time the FDA tried to ban ecigs? What was their stance on it then?

Off topic but just a fyi - a phlebotomist is someone who draws blood for lab tests and puts them in test tubes- it does sound fancy, important, or a specialist of some sort to someone not in the medical field. Not to knock anyone in that line of work; I appreciate a phlebotomist who is proficient at their job and doesn't have to "fish" for my veins when a doctor wants some bloodwork. Just sayin'!

 

[Baditude]

Well, I finally did it. I ordered some nic base and some DIY concentrated flavors. I have enough now to last me several months. I may order more depending upon what the FDA announces its initial plans are and before they will actually go into effect.

It doesn't mean I have given up on CASAA before everything even gets started. I just want to be prepared for the worse. Even if things go well for vapors eventually, what I ordered will still be put to good use and likely was cheaper now than it will be when nicotine becomes regulated.

Anyone who has come into this thread and is still not a CASAA member, please consider doing so. It's free and will benefit the cause of vapors worldwide. Link to join is in my sig below.

 

[diegobre]

Politics and money ..... E-cigs will not be banned in the US ...... but, just in case, and to make sure the politicians don't put too much pressure on us (meaning $$$), I'm considering to become a member of CASAA.

 

[tj99959]

Well, I finally did it. I ordered some nic base and some DIY concentrated flavors. I have enough now to last me several months. I may order more depending upon what the FDA announces its initial plans are and before they will actually go into effect.

It doesn't mean I have given up on CASAA before everything even gets started. I just want to be prepared for the worse. Even if things go well for vapors eventually, what I ordered will still be put to good use and likely was cheaper now than it will be when nicotine becomes regulated.

Anyone who has come into this thread and is still not a CASAA member, please consider doing so. It's free and will benefit the cause of vapors worldwide. Link to join is in my sig below.

I look at it as being prepared for when we are in limbo should court action become necessary.

Hell, if the truth be known most of the stuff I've "stocked up on" is just stuff I bought because I wanted it.

 

[dbeast64]

I joined CASSA a while ago and here's what,i think,would benefit them immensely. Like a previous poster said,most of us probably spend at least $10+ a month on our supplies.toys etc....


"You just set up an automatic payment profile to CASAA INC. Here's the information:
To: CASAA INC
For: Monthly Contribution

About the automatic payment you just set up:
Amount to be paid each time: $5.00 USD
Billing cycle: Monthly
Payments start: Mar 17, 2013 "

It's not much but,it's something to help them in their fight to keep our rights for us.

 

[wv2win]

I joined CASSA a while ago and here's what,i think,would benefit them immensely. Like a previous poster said,most of us probably spend at least $10+ a month on our supplies.toys etc....


"You just set up an automatic payment profile to CASAA INC. Here's the information:
To: CASAA INC
For: Monthly Contribution

About the automatic payment you just set up:
Amount to be paid each time: $5.00 USD
Billing cycle: Monthly
Payments start: Mar 17, 2013 "

It's not much but,it's something to help them in their fight to keep our rights for us.

This is what many of us do. It doesn't have to be a high amount. Every little bit helps. Good advice!!

 

[DC2]

How did I miss this thread?
This is now my favorite thread of all time!!

And just let me add this to make it easy for everyone reading...
Become a CASAA Member

 

[2coils]

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I feel like posting this again:

I wish we could sponser this as a commercial!!

 

[Wallelf]

I look at it as being prepared for when we are in limbo should court action become necessary.

Hell, if the truth be known most of the stuff I've "stocked up on" is just stuff I bought because I wanted it.

I placed a pretty big order with Mt. Vapor Baker today just in case there's an interruption in supply if this thing goes down...and because I wanted it In any case, I'll have a good 6 months supply of juice on hand by the middle of next week.

 

[hejira]

This has been a wonderful thread to read. Very informative. I'm a conspiracy theorist myself (a guilty pleasure, lol). But surely, Big Tobacco could join "the enemy," right? I mean, this would be a new income stream for them, very profitable, and they could jam all the chemicals they want into their juices. I mean, if they can get away with putting them in their cigs, why not into pre-filled carts? Some things just don't make sense.

Surely they've strategized about manufacturing their own e-cigs; doesn't that make sense? Maybe their income projections just aren't high enough with the e-cigs, I have no idea. But they are in the business of making nicotine delivery devices--that's what e-cigs are just as much as grody analogs.

Anybody know anything about whether any Big Tobacco corps have made or considered releasing their own e-cig products?

H.

 

[DJ RyckRak]

Well, I finally did it. I ordered some nic base and some DIY concentrated flavors. I have enough now to last me several months. I may order more depending upon what the FDA announces its initial plans are and before they will actually go into effect.

It doesn't mean I have given up on CASAA before everything even gets started. I just want to be prepared for the worse. Even if things go well for vapors eventually, what I ordered will still be put to good use and likely was cheaper now than it will be when nicotine becomes regulated.

Anyone who has come into this thread and is still not a CASAA member, please consider doing so. It's free and will benefit the cause of vapors worldwide. Link to join is in my sig below.

Well done Bad !
It is not so much like we are 'prepping for the end of the world', it is more of having what you like around and handy.
Vaping is something we need and/or enjoy. We take an active interest in the things we purchase, own and enjoy.
It is only wise and prudent that we would have a supply of something that is used regularly 'on hand'.
No one goes to the gas station to purchase enough gas to mow the lawn for 'today'.
Even though I am the only coffee drinker here- I do not buy 'one cup' worth of coffee at a time.
Wife made homemade chili tonight...did she make 'two servings' ?....no- she made enough for several meals.

I started DIYing my own juice two months ago...it's only me Vaping it, and I make enough to last four weeks.
That is like 4- 30 ml bottles. I make it when I am down to two bottles left, so that it has some time to steep.
So at any given time, I have between 4-6 bottles of juice...it has all been good to excellent, and I have one less thing to stress about or have to order on some regular basis. I started with a bottle of 36mg/ml, cut it down to 12-18mg/ml..but I have since gone to 54mg/ml. bottles.
(Just because it takes fewer bottles in the frig.) Lastly, I am only Vaping 8-12mg/ml now...so a 125ml bottle of 54mg/ml go's a long way !
A few bottles of nic base, some PG and VG and some flavorings...good for a couple of years of Vaping.

I think anyone who takes a serious interest in Vaping would want to become more self reliant for their Vaping ejuice. It's easy enough, brings the cost of Vaping down to a very tiny amount of money, pennies per ml- and is fun and tasty....what's not to like ?

Should we be stocking up- just in case....
No ! We should be stocking up because we enjoy and need to Vape !
IMHO

 

[DC2]

Anybody know anything about whether any Big Tobacco corps have made or considered releasing their own e-cig products?

Lorillard, the makers of Newport, Kent, and True, have recently purchased Blu electronic cigarettes.

You might want to watch this...
Lorillard CEO Murray Kessler on Blu Cigs Purchase, Plans

RJ Reynolds is currently test marketing Vuse, which is their version of a tobacco vaporizer.
No word yet from Phillip Morris.

 

[hejira]

Great video on the topic, DC2...I find it hard to trust corporate face men...and hard to believe his claims. What I hear is more like "After we crush all the little vendors and make our backroom wink-wink nudge-nudge deal with the FDA, we'll have the chance to monopolize this [what he called a fragmented] industry..." In other words, nothing will change for his company...wonder what chemicals they'll barrage us when we're stuck with Blu E-Cigs. :/

 

[Schnarph]

It is just as hard to convince someone that is not worried about any given topic as it is to convince someone else that is worried that they do not need to be. I have given up on this kind of arguement, it's the same as telling a bigfoot hunter that they are wasting their time. I have tried to keep an open mind on the subject of a possible government ban/regulation on vaping, as much as any topic. You can talk to me until you are blue in the face, but I'm never going to believe in fairies, extra terrestrials coming from light years away to give you an .... probe, or for that matter, the Earth being flat.

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Logic and legislation are not the best of friends. As to the OP of this thread, go ahead and buy what you think you need, it's better than smoking cigarettes after all. Just remember, if you can't get more of it when it's impossible to purchase, you will be in the same position in a few months from now as you will be in a few years. Either do yourself a favor and start weening yourself down to a lower nic% now, or risk going cold turkey, again.

 

[Baditude]

Surely they've strategized about manufacturing their own e-cigs...Anybody know anything about whether any Big Tobacco corps have made or considered releasing their own e-cig products?

Blu e-cigarettes is owned and operated by Lorillard, a major tobacco company. Life With ‘Big Tobacco’ | Blucigs.com

Interestingly, they have this notice on their website for customers: Electronic Cigarette and Your Right to Choose | Blucigs.com

"It should be noted that this right to choose is being challenged. From misinformed lawmakers to scared big tobacco companies, actions are being made to limit the sale and use of electronic cigarettes. Lawmakers and tobacco lobbyists have seemingly made it their crusade to stop the use of electronic cigarettes, and in turn take away your right to choose.
As an e-cigarette user, you have a right to know about the bills that are being proposed, passed, and thankfully, challenged around the country.
From proposed bans based on inconclusive or incomplete data in Utah to unfair and biased attacks claiming that e-cigarettes are aimed at children, the popular thing to do seems to be to bury the e-cig revolution before it has a chance to take root.
[h=3]This is why it is important to note that just like any successful revolution, the responsibility for the future of the e-cig rests squarely on the shoulder of the individual. So stay informed. Visit sites like CASA or your favorite E-cigarette Brand’s News Feed. Write your congressman. And if you hear of proposed bills that you think the rest of the e-cig community needs to be aware of, share it with us and let us know."[/h]

 

[DC2]

I think a sensible regulation would be to stop the sale of extremely high nicotine base liquids used for diy. Personally i don't use them, but, i do use a perfectly good premade e liquid at 4.5mg. None of you guys would use such a high mg e liquid, or maybe some of you do, but the company i get it from seem to think it's neccessary. The company i am referring to is expanding all the time. They're an english company but have outlets in quite a few countries now including the usa. One of the few companies that label their e liquids with health warnings,expiration dates etc.

Intellicig was purchased by British American Tobacco Company quite some time ago.
They are the only electronic cigarette company to have been purchased by Big Tobacco so far, other than Blu.

And when they were purchased by BATC they were also in the process of working on becoming a pharmaceutical quit-smoking product.
It will be VERY interesting to see where they go now, what they do, and how they are treated by regulators.

Personally and in my experience, once a governing entity has set their sights on something relatively harmless that is a threat to said governing entity, be it through financial harm or fear of recognition of just what profane liars governing entities tend to be, there is no stopping them. Mostly because we as the people under said governing entity just seem to tolerate it... But that is neither here nor there....

I am stocking up, because at this point it's only a matter of time....

I think the electronic cigarette community, if and when the time comes, is going to shock the world.
We will stand up, we will be heard, and we will beat the liars, the cheaters, and the murderers.

We have the passion of a people who are fighting for their lives.
And crossing us would be a big mistake, even for the FDA.

Stay tuned, and we'll see what happens soon enough.