Should we start panicking now?
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We are to big to ban. There are no studies that in any HONESTY can condem us. Yes they smear the studies, and yes politicions will use the sear to gain votes, but stopping a movement in the USA is more of implosion facter than out right government stoppage. Besides, getting votes is not the same as getting results. The FDA has controll and ego issues, but also bigger fish to fry. We will survive, but a little bruised.
The problem is that most of our vendors are decent, law-abiding folks. I don't think they'll want to run the same risk that Tommy Chong did with hus (OTHER STUFF) website -- and wind up in the Federal slammer.
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Can you say black market? I am sorry to say if they came with an all out ban on everything to do with e cigs, that will not deter me. I will find what I need and I am sure there will be people selling it, under different names. I wonder if they do try a ban what a class action law suit would do? I am sure there are lawyers that vape.
I don't think it will get banned either. (OTHER STUFF) becoming legal in the US, Cigarettes are legal. etc. Maybe it has to do with how most of e-cig stuff is imported and the US gov isn't recieving as much tax money from it, maybe they'll ban imports and quadruple the cost of e cig supplies like they did with cigarettes. Like how if you go on a cruise or visit another country, you can only bring so much/or maybe none nowadays cigarettes and alcohol back. If it becomes domestic-only, I hope the gov doesn't put a rediculous tax on it.
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If you're talking about that piece that surrounds the wick and coil, those can be removed. They are just there to keep any wire from touching the metal housing. When rebuilding, just make sure your coil wires are not near the metal and you will be ok without that sleeve.
Hey Rick, I wouldn't worry too much. You might want to build up a supply of your atties, cartos, ect. The vendors such as Wizard Labs and RTS Vapes who sell nic also sell nic for other purposes, so it should still be available. At least that my thoughts on it.
Hi Paul!
I'm living on a measly small retired income and can't afford to have my nic-juice double or triple in price. I'm already paying over $12 for a 50mil bottle of the stuff.
I can't afford much more.
I'm living on a measly small retired income and can't afford to have my nic-juice double or triple in price. I'm already paying over $12 for a 50mil bottle of the stuff.
I can't afford much more.
How bout trying DIY, it's easy. That 50ml would probably be about 3.00-4.00 to make, especially since you wouldn't be buying any flavorings. Check out Wizard Labs PG based nic, vg and pg. PG based nic can be stored in the freezer for a couple years. December of 2011 I bought 1000ml's of nic for the wife and I, and it looks like I'll need to re-order more around June or July. Give it some thought.
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Got it, Paul. Thanks.
I'll be looking into this option after they move to Florida.
Next question is, I've heard something about rebuilding attys or attys that are rebuildable.
Anyone got a link to this option? It's new to me.
Thanks,
I'll be looking into this option after they move to Florida.
Next question is, I've heard something about rebuilding attys or attys that are rebuildable.
Anyone got a link to this option? It's new to me.
Thanks,
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Look on MVS
(hover your pointer over the initials above- It will tell you what MVS is)
It didn't work so google: myvaporstore.com
I just purchased a Vision Eternity Rebuildable Atomizer- sweet.
(hover your pointer over the initials above- It will tell you what MVS is)
It didn't work so google: myvaporstore.com
I just purchased a Vision Eternity Rebuildable Atomizer- sweet.
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Here's a few to look at, there are many more around.
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/modding-forum/284030-wick-materials-safe-vs-dangerous.html
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...ystems/295410-vivi-nova-rebuild-tutorial.html
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...ivi-cotton-re-wicking-method-monkey-easy.html
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/modding-forum/284030-wick-materials-safe-vs-dangerous.html
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...ystems/295410-vivi-nova-rebuild-tutorial.html
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...ivi-cotton-re-wicking-method-monkey-easy.html
Thanks, Paul but I think we're getting off into things I don't have.
I have a bottom feeder. My attys have a wire mesh screen in them. Are these rebuildable? Is anyone making a DIY atty kit?
Thanks,
I have a bottom feeder. My attys have a wire mesh screen in them. Are these rebuildable? Is anyone making a DIY atty kit?
Thanks,
The juice is the only thing I can really see them being able to crack down on. As far as hardware goes though, even if they crush our vendors here stateside under their heel, the Chinese have nothing against vaping, and make most of out carto's and are even cranking out RBA's now. If they do anything hardware related it'll pretty much just hurt the US economy, and cause honest people here to lose their businesses and jobs.
Vaping is as big there as it is here, and they lie like crazy on their customs forms. I had a dozen cheap ego's come through labeled as "Flashlights". On the x-ray most of our e-cig stuff looks pretty much like any other tubular electronic you can imagine. The Li-Po and LiMg batts we use are not too much of a worry either, those have never been a PV only power source. You can find em in pretty much any high capacity battery pack out there now, and they are used in almost every modern hand held measuring device and RC plane I've ever used. So those are not going anywhere.
Our PG and VG are also fairly safe, as mentioned before, those are used in other industries as well. PG is wide spread as a food additive, and already on the safe list of crap that the FDA already approved. Just pick up and read the ingredients on some of you food packages, you'll find it listed on a lot of them. Also it's the base for most smoke machines to make the SFX smoke, and used in most aerosol based RX inhalers as the carrier for the medication. VG also has it's place as mentioned earlier in the lotion, soap, and candle industries. Both are USP cert base chem you can buy in bulk if you know where to look.
Also the kanthal and Nichrome wire used in RBA's is pretty much a standard heating wire used in your toasters, dryers, and heaters, so we'll still have that along with the silica, SS mesh, and cotton used as wicking. So on the hardware side, I'd say we'd still be able to manage, though it will be a royal PITA having to wait weeks for crap from China instead of days, or a quick trip to the local vape shop.
Also, our flavors will still be available, and pretty easy to get, after all most of what we use to flavor our juice is just standard food flavoring. They couldn't really clamp down on that without hurting every bakery, cake shop, and confectionery producer in the country, and lets face it we love our sweets too much here in the US for THAT to happen. You saw the ruckus that was kicked up when Hostess bit the dust.
Our juice is the only real weak point they can put the thumb screws on, so that's what it seems like they are attempting to do. Most of what we use is too deeply entrenched in other larger industries for them to touch. Hopefully they fall flat on their face again, and we can rally in our own defense, but per my normal modus operandi I'm hoping for the best, preparing for the worst and stocking up on the high concentrate nic while I can. We'll wait and see what happens, it's not the first time the FDA has tried their crap and I can bet it won't be the last if they fall short again.
Vaping is as big there as it is here, and they lie like crazy on their customs forms. I had a dozen cheap ego's come through labeled as "Flashlights". On the x-ray most of our e-cig stuff looks pretty much like any other tubular electronic you can imagine. The Li-Po and LiMg batts we use are not too much of a worry either, those have never been a PV only power source. You can find em in pretty much any high capacity battery pack out there now, and they are used in almost every modern hand held measuring device and RC plane I've ever used. So those are not going anywhere.
Our PG and VG are also fairly safe, as mentioned before, those are used in other industries as well. PG is wide spread as a food additive, and already on the safe list of crap that the FDA already approved. Just pick up and read the ingredients on some of you food packages, you'll find it listed on a lot of them. Also it's the base for most smoke machines to make the SFX smoke, and used in most aerosol based RX inhalers as the carrier for the medication. VG also has it's place as mentioned earlier in the lotion, soap, and candle industries. Both are USP cert base chem you can buy in bulk if you know where to look.
Also the kanthal and Nichrome wire used in RBA's is pretty much a standard heating wire used in your toasters, dryers, and heaters, so we'll still have that along with the silica, SS mesh, and cotton used as wicking. So on the hardware side, I'd say we'd still be able to manage, though it will be a royal PITA having to wait weeks for crap from China instead of days, or a quick trip to the local vape shop.
Also, our flavors will still be available, and pretty easy to get, after all most of what we use to flavor our juice is just standard food flavoring. They couldn't really clamp down on that without hurting every bakery, cake shop, and confectionery producer in the country, and lets face it we love our sweets too much here in the US for THAT to happen. You saw the ruckus that was kicked up when Hostess bit the dust.
Our juice is the only real weak point they can put the thumb screws on, so that's what it seems like they are attempting to do. Most of what we use is too deeply entrenched in other larger industries for them to touch. Hopefully they fall flat on their face again, and we can rally in our own defense, but per my normal modus operandi I'm hoping for the best, preparing for the worst and stocking up on the high concentrate nic while I can. We'll wait and see what happens, it's not the first time the FDA has tried their crap and I can bet it won't be the last if they fall short again.
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Not that I'm aware of. The RBA's are a different thing than what you are using I believe.
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