Sick of burnt cartos. Please recommend me a tank system

[Fury83]

I hate carto tanks. I like Vivi's, you can just use the metal tanks to avoid cracking. Plus, their are lots of carto tanks that are made of the same plastics anyway.

Carto tank is a cartomizer in a tank

Vivi nova is a wicked coil in a tank

Amp tank is an atomizer in a tank

I am not sure why one would be a tank but not the other. Not that it really matters, I would use a Vivi over a carto tank any day. I like my Amp tank over my Vivi's.

I don't understand the 5 volt business, buy 3.2ohm coils for the Vivi.

 

[GreekLion]

5v is pretty high for a 510 passthrough. you might want to consider getting something with vv or even a lower voltage. at and after 5v you get considerably less options.

for that voltage, you need a 3 ohm dual coil carto, nothing less or you are asking for trouble. get smoktechs and they wont burn out and taste horrible.

for the tank, get a valley vapes. they are less expensive and a good overall intro tank that you will use even after you upgrade.

 

[WageSlaveEscapist]

I've decided on the AGA-T2 RBA. Thanks everyone so much for the help.

 

[flintlock62]

I probably should have mentioned that, but I haven't tried myself yet. RBA's have a learning curve to my understanding, but I think it's not too hard to master. I was going to buy another glass cartomizer tank, but I think I changed my mind and will get a AGA-T2 as well!

I've decided on the AGA-T2 RBA. Thanks everyone so much for the help.

 

[Baditude]

I probably should have mentioned that, but I haven't tried myself yet. RBA's have a learning curve to my understanding, but I think it's not too hard to master. I was going to buy another glass cartomizer tank, but I think I changed my mind and will get a AGA-T2 as well!

I was rather intimidated to try a Genesis. I'm not a tinkerer. I like things that work right out of the box. RBA's do not fit that description.

I paid attention enough to know which of the less expensive rba's were being recommended. With the upcoming FDA rulings possibly having a harsh impact on the availability of popular juice carrying devices, I wanted to have other options, such as a rebuildable. Wire, steel mesh, and silica are common enough materials that they should pass under the radar of the FDA in a worse case scenario. So having rebuildables in your vaping collection is a win-win in my book. It doesn't hurt at all that it's a darn good vape to boot.

The AGA T was almost univerally being hailed as the best low cost Genesis tank. When I saw they were being sold with a pyrex tank, I knew the time had come for me to jump into the game.

There definitely is a learning curve, but it's not something that anyone can not learn by educating themselves and then gaining some experience. It took me until my second mesh wick and third coil until I finally got to the point to realize the superior vape that the RBA's are capable of. I'm still a noob when it comes to these, but I was impressed enough to buy my second AGA. I still laugh out loud at the clouds of vapor that I can make, and the flavor and vape is so smooth that I often don't realize how much I am actually taking in.

Be prepared for early disappointments. It's part of the learning curve. I would spend an hour here and there, and then put it away. I was not dependent on it to work right out of the box. The pieces of the puzzle finally came together, and the vape experience can be likened to what I remember the first couple drags from a cigarette were like.

 

[Thepinfamily]

Have you looked at the CE3 tanks? It fits everything your looking for. I haven't tried it in tank form but I have been using the CE3 for the last two weeks and I like it. They come in top and bottom coil, no wicking or leaking issues and no polyfill.

 

[wv2win]

5v is pretty high for a 510 passthrough. you might want to consider getting something with vv or even a lower voltage. at and after 5v you get considerably less options.

for that voltage, you need a 3 ohm dual coil carto, nothing less or you are asking for trouble. get smoktechs and they wont burn out and taste horrible.

for the tank, get a valley vapes. they are less expensive and a good overall intro tank that you will use even after you upgrade.

This is totally wrong. Using a 3 ohm dual coil is equivalent to using a 6 ohm single coil carto due to how they work.

I use 1.5 ohm dual coil cartos in a Phyinac tank at 12.4 watts (about 4.5 volts) without an issue. (this would be equivalent to using a 3.0 ohm single coil carto) No burning at all, just nice throat hit and flavor.

I think some who comment on dual coil cartos either don't know how to use them or don't know how they work.

 

[wv2win]

I was rather intimidated to try a Genesis. I'm not a tinkerer. I like things that work right out of the box. RBA's do not fit that description.

I paid attention enough to know which of the less expensive rba's were being recommended. With the upcoming FDA rulings possibly having a harsh impact on the availability of popular juice carrying devices, I wanted to have other options, such as a rebuildable. Wire, steel mesh, and silica are common enough materials that they should pass under the radar of the FDA in a worse case scenario. So having rebuildables in your vaping collection is a win-win in my book. It doesn't hurt at all that it's a darn good vape to boot.

The AGA T was almost univerally being hailed as the best low cost Genesis tank. When I saw they were being sold with a pyrex tank, I knew the time had come for me to jump into the game.

There definitely is a learning curve, but it's not something that anyone can not learn by educating themselves and then gaining some experience. It took me until my second mesh wick and third coil until I finally got to the point to realize the superior vape that the RBA's are capable of. I'm still a noob when it comes to these, but I was impressed enough to buy my second AGA. I still laugh out loud at the clouds of vapor that I can make, and the flavor and vape is so smooth that I often don't realize how much I am actually taking in.

Be prepared for early disappointments. It's part of the learning curve. I would spend an hour here and there, and then put it away. I was not dependent on it to work right out of the box. The pieces of the puzzle finally came together, and the vape experience can be likened to what I remember the first couple drags from a cigarette were like.

Bad, thanks for this post. I have not tried RBA's yet for the exact same reasons you stated. But I would like too. How often do you have to rebuild them? If the "fiddle factor" can be reduced to once (or maybe twice) a month, it might be worth it if they are that much better than anything else on the market.

I keep waiting for someone to come up with ones already built that you simply buy a new one when needed, like tank cartos.

 

[Hurley]

To the op. You should look into the vapeonly tanks. Its a bottom single coil with replaceable coils. Works great and you get 3 different coils with it. Or try out the t3's which are also bottom coil. If you wamt dual coil gotvapes has a new tank called the twix that uses two coils.

 

[DaveP]

I'm a carto guy who got sick of the QC problems last year. I started searching for a trouble free vape. I had used Smoktek carto tanks for a while and they produced some of the best vapes I had ever experienced. The trouble with most carto tanks is slippage. I like to put my Provari in my pocket, sometimes a jeans pocket and sometimes in an inner jacket pocket. I don't want to worry about the end grommets sliding off. I know that cleaning the rubber and the carto tube prevents most slippage, but it it ever slips in your pocket you have wet rubber and a wet carto to deal with. It's not perfect even if the flavor is slightly better than a Vivi Nova.

I finally ordered a Vision Vivi Nova and liked it. Screw on end caps eliminate the slippage problem and the heads are easily replaceable. If I decide it needs to be washed and dry burned, I can suck out the juice with a syringe and disassemble it, then put the same juice back in after a cleaning. It's just simple and easy for me to maintain. The above procedure only takes a few minutes. I can screw off the top cap, drip juice in or use a syringe, and vape again. No complete disassembly require.

I'm not dissing carto tanks. They probably have slightly better flavor and the same amount of vapor and they give you the benefits of large capacity juice reservoirs without having to do the sling method to retrieve the juice in a dead carto to replace it. It's all about personal preference. Right now, I'm sold on the Vivi Nova. You really have to try everything to make a good decision on what works best for you.

 

[Baditude]

Bad, thanks for this post. I have not tried RBA's yet for the exact same reasons you stated. But I would like too. How often do you have to rebuild them? If the "fiddle factor" can be reduced to once (or maybe twice) a month, it might be worth it if they are that much better than anything else on the market.

I keep waiting for someone to come up with ones already built that you simply buy a new one when needed, like tank cartos.

I'm so new at this I can't answer your question. I finally got the final piece of the puzzle together a few days ago with my first AGA. I haven't touched my cartotanks since. My second AGA came in the mail yesterday, and I spent probably 15-20 minutes wrapping it's first coil and preparing it for juice. I found a supplier of pre-rolled stainless steel wicks, which was the part I had so much trouble with in the first AGA, so that eliminated a huge obstacle on my part. Having had experience with the first, it probably took a half hour for the complete setup with the second AGA. As I gain more experience I'm sure that will be cut down even more.

I have no honest answer on how long one of these can remain set up or what maintanance is involved. As I said my first has only been fine-tuned for a few days and the second not yet a day. I would equate the step up to RBA's an equivilant to similar if not more than when going from fixed voltage to variable voltage in your vaping evolution. When these suckers are working on all cylinders, there's no comparison to the more common juice delivery devices.

Zen demonstrates how to wrap a coil in under 2 minutes at a picnic in this video:



An AGA tutorial from start to finish: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_-ErotC0-s

Zen's tutorial of the ZAP for Provape is undoubtedly the best video that I have seen in both useful information and beautifully filmed that is applicable for any Genesis style RBA: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxGfAmIcs70

 

[Firestorm]

I do love cartomizer tanks and use them regularly and when on the go. I've had a lot of new and recent success with RBAs (IGO-L and AGA-T) and hands down have never had a better vape. Although my IGO-L seems rock solid and never-changing, I seem to get my AGA-T running great after fiddling with the coils a bunch, I put it down for the night, and then I have to fiddle with it more the next night to get it working again. Perhaps it will become more consistent as I get better at it, but for now, I cannot rely on it and will always bring cartomizer tanks with me.

I just ordered my first AMP tank. I'm hoping to get atomizer quality vapes with the dependability of my cartomizer tanks. We'll see. I'm definitely interested in trying new things and experimenting with different juice delivery systems, but when I look at all around cost, maintenance, vape quality, and dependability, I think that it's hard to beat a cartomizer tank. Please keep in mind that I have never tried a Viva Nova, so I cannot comment on it.

 

[thebong24]

Be aware of premade wicks some of them arent oxidized well but u can oxidized more with the oven or a lighter... longevity of the wick itself will last u a week or two but wait, the good news is all u have to do to reuse it is to wash and burn (reoxidized but slightly) amd reuse it again... the only reason I said a week or two due to the juice carmelizing on the week for longer use(like a dry deposit dried juice around the coil) but basically all u have to do with the aga system 1 wick will last u for a good while ( clean the wick and recoil)... it also depends on how often u change ur juice... all of this is base on my experience and my personal journey with the aga... works for me but may not work for u...just sharing it...hope that helps ...cheers! To finish it off... it is always best to make ur own wick

sent from mars

 

[Cookster]

I love carto-tanks, but hate the polyfill, so I use these:

CE2 style DCT tank cartomizers

The 3.0ohm single coils should be fine at 5 volts

 

[Baditude]

Be aware of premade wicks some of them arent oxidized well but u can oxidized more with the oven or a lighter...

I prefer that the pre-made wicks are not overly oxidized. Then I can oxidize them as much or as little as I want. The current trend seems to not oxidize the part of the wick that goes into the tank, only the part that the coil will be touching. Seems to work the best for me.

 

[thebong24]

I prefer that the pre-made wicks are not overly oxidized. Then I can oxidize them as much or as little as I want. The current trend seems to not oxidize the part of the wick that goes into the tank, only the part that the coil will be touching. Seems to work the best for me.

U got that right

sent from mars