Sigelei 213 owners thread

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rice721

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Got my 213 in with the uwell Crown today. I had my VTC5s ready to go, but this being my first sub-ohm experience it's definitely something to get used to. So far I like the solid feel of this device, its not big but still solid and kinda reminds me of the build of my Reo Mod. The tank is producing good flavor, I'm still dialing it in just right using the .5 ohm that came with it. I also have two more sets of batteries coming from Illumn in a few days.

loved the crown and the flavor it produced. Was my 2nd ever atty, liked it so much I had to buy a second one to color code. no hassle no leak just flavor on that thing.
 

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It could be the battery isn't making perfect contact. I'll give it a few more days before I decide send it in for an exchange. Such a pain in the .... if I have to exchange it.
 

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Hey guys. Picked up my 213 Saturday and here's what I'm getting. About 3-5x a day I"ll have a dead press where nothing happens when fire button pushed. Also my battery level is reading like 50%when the batteries are discharged to 3.6-3.7..and just over shooting the percentage the whole discharge cycle really. They'll say 100 percent when the batteries are 4.05 and my top battery is always considerably lower than the bottom on the display. This may be normal as my cuboid mods always registered one battery lower than the other no matter what.
Anyways, loving a lot of things about this mod as I bought it because I love the preheat function of all my dna mods but hate having to escribe them to adjust it. Honestly I'm getting some erratic performance on this 213 though. Been using 316l on both factory 316 and tcr and playing around with the preheat settings and every time I let the mod rest I'll get a different behavior when I go to fire it again.. now to be fair I'm using a complex hybrid staggered fused Clapton that has a 2 pieces of 28g-316l twisted and laid parallel then 32g kanthal for the the wrap . 2 of these dudes wrapped 6x on 3mm in the griffin 25 for
.130 ohm. I'm going to throw in a standard 316 spaced build on a cthulhu when I get off work to confirm things although this would have no effect on the main issue that is the battery readings and dead button pushes.
I've read about others with the dead button push but is Anyone else having over rated battery percentages ?
Not sure about anything else here, but batteries at 3.7v are at about 50% charge.

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Just going to post here since i've had my 213 for a week. So far not one single issue, have used power mode a bunch, with kanthal then stainless 316 coils in a 22mm griffin and now a 25mm griffen. Have played with preset 316 mode, also tcr, and also TFR. I've in the past few months used a kbox/rx200/vtc mini/snow wolf 200/ipv3. Even with the unusual instant battery readings that fluctuate the battery life is damn good, better bang for the buck battery life than any of the other mods by far, with the vtc-mini coming in second with accounting for only having one battery. I can get 2 days easily out of 2 batteries, where as the vtc mini would use about 3 or just short for two long days of vaping. The snow wolf was barely lucky to get a day and a half out of said pair. This is all with brand new samsung 25r's in each device as i bought them. No misfire issues here and a very well built mod that's tiny for having dual 18650's in it. The TC/preheat thing is a bit weird ill admit but it does function so far as long as you dont leave the wattage below what said coils need to reach max temp quickly.

Now the big question is do have is about upgrading firmware. They claimed it will have it, but not a word on sigelei's site and they have never offered upgrades for any other device(mind you i dont know if they ever produced a mod even with the capability since i havn't owned a sigelei product in years).

Overall id give it an 8.5/10 so far.
Gunmetal finish is not exactly the most durable thing ever and the TC/preheat setting is a little weird.
Otherwise a solid sleek compact device that delivers. This is all just based on my expierence with MY device so please don't attack me haha.

 

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@Aaron Peik, that's interesting about the finish. I'm holding out for the gold (brass?) version. When the finish scratches, what does the metal look like underneath? Just silver?

ETA: also, I'm a little confused by the... confusion on the "lack" of wattage adjustment in TC mode by many users. Isn't adjustable wattage in TC mode on other mods just a preheat function? Otherwise, you'd just set your temperature and vape, that's the whole point of TC... right?
 

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@Aaron Peik, that's interesting about the finish. I'm holding out for the gold (brass?) version. When the finish scratches, what does the metal look like underneath? Just silver?

ETA: also, I'm a little confused by the... confusion on the "lack" of wattage adjustment in TC mode by many users. Isn't adjustable wattage in TC mode on other mods just a preheat function? Otherwise, you'd just set your temperature and vape, that's the whole point of TC... right?

IMO yes, the wattage adjusted in other TC mods is simply a preheat function.
 
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sort of, but not really. you can set the ramp up wattage to exceed the temp setting for the amount of time that you specify and after that ramp up time, it will drop to the temp you have set.

I'm assuming you're talking about the sig213. You can also do this with other TC mods but the adjustment isn't grainular like the 213. Just set the wattage high enough that it will overshoot the temp (resistance) threshold.
 

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Yes on the finish, obviously ive never dropped it or anything, but just setting it on the table over the course of the week has left 2 tiny spots on the bottom that appear to be polished or whatnot plain silver metal, it's very hard to see even looking for it though. The confusion reguarding the preheat function in temp control probably comes from the fact that you can't actually turn it off, and it does weird things if you set wattage way low with .01 time(which is sort of off). If you set preheat wattage while in temp mode to say 20 watts, but have a setup capable of 40-60w, it will throttle and never go above 20 watts no matter how long you hold the button down which i think is unusual since i would think it would just be punch or pre-heat control. This is all with it set to .01 time.
Now if you set it to 60-213 watts on a 40-60 watt build and set it to .01 it works as i would assume normal temp control mode and vapes great. Alternatively you can up the fire time past .01 to whatever you like such as .40 @ 80 watts in temp mode, and it will fire 80 watts for .40 seconds then drop into normal temp mode each hit. Hope this clarifies how it seems a little unusual to me(mostly the setting the wattage low and it never surpassing that wattage in temp mode).
 
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The confusion reguarding the preheat function in temp control probably comes from the fact that you can't actually turn it off, and it does weird things if you set wattage way low with .01 time(which is sort of off). If you set preheat wattage while in temp mode to say 20 watts, but have a setup capable of 40-60w, it will throttle and never go above 20 watts no matter how long you hold the button down

Either that is a firmware bug or preheat is nothing more than the wattage setting while in temp control (with timer feature).

Just because your build is capable of 60W doesn't mean it needs that wattage to reach temperature. What happens if you set the preheat to 20W but the temperature to 600°F?
 

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I think the TC requires the preheat to get up to temp. Like I have said all TC stuff has a preheat portion before TC takes over usually based on the power you set. So in this case if you have the wattage set too low for the coil to get past the temp you have set it makes sense that it would just stick with the wattage you have set.
 

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A couple of questions before I buy.
1- Does this mod do TCR? I use only SS430 so need that.
2- Do I set watts in power mode then switch to TC mode where the watts will be the same as set in power mode? That's how I understand it. Not talking about preheat here.

I haven't bought a Sigelei since my old 'Lightsabre' 20W VW device. Which is still going strong in a relatives hands. Very reliable, a quality I'm looking for what with the FDA screwing things up.
 

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Is it normal for the % on the bottom right to be jumping up and down? I get 85%, jumping around non stop up to 95%.
Here's a little video I made, is anyone on the same boat?


I have this issue, half the people in this forum say it is normal the other half says it's broken. Some say theirs doesn't do it at all on the % bar. I dunno
 
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